If you are an aspie than no suicide for you!

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Mitch8817
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28 Apr 2007, 5:55 am

No offense, but telling someone to wait and be passive isn't very good advice. It doesn't deal with the problem at hand - time will only serve to make an untreated problem worse, especially if the person needs medical or psychiatric assistance.


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28 Apr 2007, 7:32 am

Speaking of suicide: since my stay at the mental hostel (“break down”), I don't think I've ever gone a few minutes without thinking of sticking a blade in my neck: you look ahead of where you are, compare it to where you've been, and you see the pain caused by doing the most minute thing in the past; you begin wonder if you can handle the pain of what lies ahead of where you currently reside and whether the effort required in doing the (perceived by me) impossible is worth it.

Blah....



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28 Apr 2007, 2:02 pm

Yeah, I'm honestly just stressed out right now, and things seem to be hopeless.


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28 Apr 2007, 2:33 pm

i know it seems hopeless at the moment but things will get better
and there are a lot of people who care about you including me.

and mitch no offense taken but i deal with this kinda thing a lot lately so i know that sometimes my advice works. if it doesnt then fair play go and see a doctor or someone professional.

i hope that you feel better about yourself soon because you sound like a great lad thats going through a rough patch at the moment.



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28 Apr 2007, 2:43 pm

I've had a few close calls, but family guilt, societal pressure, legal pressure (insurance not paying out to my family, for example), religion (going to hell), and most importantly, the fear of having to come back and do it all again as punishment is what keeps me from leaving this wrong planet. There is not a day I wake up not wishing I didn't have to, but I think this is what Jesus meant by "long suffering". I have to make it the whole way through or burn or worse, which is coming back.

Edit: This is not a cry for help; I'm being honest and literal. I've gotten used to getting up every day and find joy in being alone. My job is threatening to take that time away from me these days, so I'm looking for a new one.



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28 Apr 2007, 2:48 pm

warpdrive13 wrote:
i know it seems hopeless at the moment but things will get better
and there are a lot of people who care about you including me.

and mitch no offense taken but i deal with this kinda thing a lot lately so i know that sometimes my advice works. if it doesnt then fair play go and see a doctor or someone professional.

i hope that you feel better about yourself soon because you sound like a great lad thats going through a rough patch at the moment.

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Why do you care?
You don't even know me!
I might even be an idiot!


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28 Apr 2007, 2:49 pm

k96822 wrote:
I've had a few close calls, but family guilt, societal pressure, legal pressure (insurance not paying out to my family, for example), religion (going to hell), and most importantly, the fear of having to come back and do it all again as punishment is what keeps me from leaving this wrong planet. There is not a day I wake up not wishing I didn't have to, but I think this is what Jesus meant by "long suffering". I have to make it the whole way through or burn or worse, which is coming back.

Edit: This is not a cry for help; I'm being honest and literal. I've gotten used to getting up every day and find joy in being alone. My job is threatening to take that time away from me these days, so I'm looking for a new one.


Some days, I love being alone.
It just helps me clear my mind.


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28 Apr 2007, 2:50 pm

i know your not an idiot and trust me i care
so quit the agression im just saying i mind what happens to you



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29 Apr 2007, 7:48 pm

warpdrive13 wrote:
i know your not an idiot and trust me i care
so quit the agression im just saying i mind what happens to you


I know that I should stay out of this, but I can't; it's unresolved and bothers me because it is a protocol problem. I spend much of my time trying to understand the protocol differences and translate from my protocol to an NT protocol that I think I have gotten to a point where I can just about break even enough to survive up to 2 years with a group of people, so I'm going to take a shot at this, although I hope I don't offend anyone (the responses are too complex for me to guess, so I'm going to take a leap on this)...

warpdrive13 -> xboxboy247
I am in a profession where I get to see a lot of people who think things are hopeless and, based on my experiences, in time, they will no longer see things as hopeless. I care about you because I care about everyone, as they should. I do not want you to hurt because I know what it is like to hurt as well. If, in a week, you still feel hopeless, please see a doctor because they may be able to help you.

Notes: There must be a term -- a week I came up with because "in time" has no meaning without a measure. "fair play" is ambiguous -- not sure what that means and we take things literally so it could imply that there is some competition, which includes a concept of one gaining and the other one losing. "Lad" can mean "immature". I often get offended when someone calls me "Son". Back in college, I actually yelled at a guy for this. "I'm not your son!" Aspies are sensitive about being considered immature because when we can no longer handle the sensory overload, we sometimes explode into what appears to be a "tantrum", but it really isn't -- we just can't keep it inside anymore and we have no idea what you want to hear. It is really just an explosion of repressed emotion that we just didn't get a chance to get out in any other way, probably due to being confined and having no time to get away and find an activity to put things back in order.

xboxboy247 -> warpdrive13
You do not know me, so how can you care for me? There are billions of people in the world and it is impossible to form a connection with each one. You've never formed a connection with me, so how can you really care for me? I could be someone not worth your care at all, maybe a total idiot. If you met me, you might hate me, so how can you make the assumption that I'd be someone you'd care for?

No right or wrong -- just a completely different way of thinking and communicating, so different that there is no way to just sum it up with a few words. The anger warpdrive13 is demonstrating is natural because there he was following protocol and felt that xboxboy247 understood that. The anger xboxboy247 felt was natural because he was feeling mocked. Because of these assumptions, the communication failed.



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29 Apr 2007, 8:31 pm

I think about suicide....and when I do think about it....I think it's stupid.


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29 Apr 2007, 8:32 pm

yeah same here



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30 Apr 2007, 6:52 am

Depends on your life philosophy. I don't think it's stupid at all when your philosophy revolves around the purposelessness of life and the absence of absolute morals and values.
For those people the 'purpose' of life is to have fun. If there's no fun or prospect for it in one's life, why continue suffering?



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30 Apr 2007, 8:14 am

i wasnt mad just concerned
im not a professional
and im a she not a he



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30 Apr 2007, 12:41 pm

"Suicide is a permanent solution for temporary problems"



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30 Apr 2007, 3:20 pm

Gilb wrote:
"Suicide is a permanent solution for temporary problems"


That is a moot point, really. People who have terminal cancer do not have a temporary problem.
People who have an ongoing mental disorder that causes them distress year after year after year, would not consider their problems to be temporary. Temporary is something that lasts a short time and then goes. Many issues are ongoing or repeat themselves time and time again, and therefore are not so temporary. It often is a build up of these 'temporary' problems that causes a person to go over the edge, anyway.



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30 Apr 2007, 3:47 pm

I'd never do it. But it seems like the end of my life comes and goes, esspecially when nothing new and cool happens.


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