Arghh so sick of alcoholic world!

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Did really the Prohibition Era in the US worked? What are the controversies happened there?

I wasn't speaking from the individual point of view, so yes I was talking about the society influence. Alcohol is an introduction to adult social world once you turn the legal age, but we had a lot of fun being as a kid. Then during adult years you feel sad of looking back on your life that you had fun as a child because it was adventurous. So alcohol never adventurous because it always cause issues. Being sober have huge different story (apart from a person being drugged). If saying someone been drinking was adventurous, its because your minds are socially impaired to that way. Thus less adventurous when being sober.

I do not like the way the world need alcohol to be part of everything. Why we need it in every single party we plan? What's wrong being socially fun being sober? I do that all the time and I always had so much fun being sober. I always get told by friends and family who does drink they prefer that way because they feel insecure and don't know what to do without alcohol. I feel this a problem. Miscommunication and misinterpretation.

So we aren't confident in ourselves without alcohol?

Arguments and debate about whether prohibition worked etc belong in PPR rather than The Haven, so if this thread goes in that direction, locking may occur.

Will all posters please bear in mind that The Haven is a protected forum and personal slurs in response to the different perceptions and feelings of other posters are not acceptable.

Prohibition did not work. It caused the proliferation and glorification of Gangsters during the Jazz Age in America.

In the UK especially with the young people there is a massive drinking culture. Seems to me that they hate their lives and they spend their working week looking forward to the weekend's binge drinking. Then they blow all their wage and feel like crap for days, but can function enough to go to their tedious underpaid job..and then it all starts again. They don't have the energy to make changes in their lives, so they continue to be slaves. They certainly don't have the time, energy or intact brain cells to say, start a revolution.

I totally get that not everyone who chooses to use alcohol is destined to reach a state of alcohol dependency, though those that do often seem tragically afflicted. One such voice put her descent into alcohol addiction in this way, concisely and evocatively:

"For me, at first, my drinking was fun ; then in the second phase, it was fun with consequences; finally there were only consequences for me".

I feel very compassionate toward people who reach that third stage, particularly if they reach it at a very early stage of their lives. That kind of dependence so compromises personal potential, relationships and clarity of mind, yet alcohol is routinely advertised as a fun thing. Fun for some, yes, though for others a doorway to a specific kind of personal Hell.

I've known quite a few people, including a brother-in-law and my grandfather (who I never met, because he died in 1946), who have died of cirrhosis of the liver, an affliction known to be strongly correlated with alcoholism.

OP is apparently in the UK, and in the UK there is a huge societal tendency to equate "fun" with alcohol. We have it in the US too, especially among university students, who seem to believe that a "party" is a place where "fun" consists of getting so stinking drunk that you can't remember your own name, succeeded by having sex (that you can't remember) with a bunch of partygoers. It's common here for male youths to get females drunk until the females pass out, at which point they are gang raped.

There was a case in a small town in Nevada almost a decade ago where a 15 year old girl got drunk and had sex with 5 or 6 guys at a party. The stories kept changing, but apparently it wasn't gang rape so much as a girl being passed around, with the girl possibly "consenting" in a technical "she said yes" sense, BUT she was too drunk for her to truly realize what she was doing.

Binge drinking occurs in high school kids in wealthy areas, along with drug use, it seems that kids born in the "lucky sperm club" have a tendency to literally piss it all away, raiding their trust funds for drug money. I don't know why this sort of thing is considered "fun", it never made sense to me.

B19, I apologize for my Prohibition tangent. If you want you can erase that reference-I can't because I will run into The Great Wall of Cloudflare.

No problems Pezar, we have all gone off the track at some time or other!

Wisconsin has a very similar drinking culture, we drank until we got obliterated

it was common and accepted for teenagers to do this, it's not even illegal for minors to drink in Wisconsin with parental supervision I don't think.

Drugs were/are a huge problem, I've lost a lot of friends to pills and eventually heroin

I think the OP knows his personal options already, and chooses not to be part of the booze culture.

I doubt it my personal choice. Its about safety. I know there are dangers on the roads if there a random drunk driver that could crash onto me because I drive and own a car.

But I don't waste time and money on these kind of stuff to be honest.

Who said I am from the UK? I am living in Australia!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zei ... 68642.html

Booze has been around longer than bread. I wish consuming bread wasn't a part of every social gathering myself, since I have celiac disease. Not just bread, but every social gathering has food.

Beyond not being able to keep up with the modern fast-paced world when using drugs, I don't see why anything that affects consciousness is automatically seen by society as wrong when it is used for fun, as if childhood fun is more 'pure' somehow. My brain doesn't decide to keep developing as an adult as it did as child such that I can continue having fun in the same way.