My mum has got uncurable cancer

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05 Jun 2016, 1:22 pm

I thought what b9 said was rather touching, I admit it is something I think about.



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05 Jun 2016, 1:36 pm

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But what I'm worried about most is her immune system. I know chemo does make a person vulnerable to viruses, but I'm not sure how bad that is, like does it mean she will be like the boy in the bubble, where she cannot have any contact from anyone or anything?


My friend got shingles. However I can't speak for what will happen. He had a good prognosis at the time, I don't know enough about dosages and the chance of getting a virus.

I just know that when he got shingles he was taken off the ward, as not not infect the others. He recovered.

Shingles is basically chichenpox the second time round. So you body already has the virus. It is not comming from an outside source.



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05 Jun 2016, 3:34 pm

Shingles is painful, but usually self-limiting.



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05 Jun 2016, 5:04 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Shingles is painful, but usually self-limiting.


Yes but these people have compromised immune systems so precautions have to be taken.



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05 Jun 2016, 6:24 pm

Perhaps you and your mother should make a pilgrimage to Lourdes in France? Close to 70 miraculous healings, deemed medically inexplicable by the Lourdes Medical Bureau have been noted.


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05 Jun 2016, 7:49 pm

Two researchers, named Carlyle Hirshberg and Marc Ian Brasch, studied people who made remarkable recoveries from very serious illnesses. Basically they found that for this group there was always a deep connecting bond to someone or something else, "Time after time, we saw the power of enduring marriages, devoted friendships, selfless acts, and indestructible love... over and over again we were struck by "the power of one" - how just one person's encouragement in the struggle against the most horrendous odds formed the pivot of healing, and how remarkable recovery often rippled outward..."

I believe this can be true for some. Even for those who don't survive, the experience of that true love brings new solace, strength and comfort to their journey. I think knowing that there were such people in my own life was a very important factor in my own past journey through cancer to recovery. Love is never wasted, and for the soul it can be the most powerful of all medicine when it is true and carried in a supporter's heart. I am sure you will comfort your mother in this way too.



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06 Jun 2016, 5:15 am

Hello Joe

I'm so sorry to hear your news.

My dad was diagnosed with bowel cancer 3 years ago, and it had spread to his liver. A year of chemotherapy and three operations and he has been cancer free for 2 years now - he has his scans and such at the end of the month, and we're hoping they'll still be good results.

I am just sorry that the news for your mum is likely not as good. Support each other as a family through this difficult time.

Thinking of you.


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06 Jun 2016, 8:19 am

I live in an area where there are many survivors of cancer.
You claim that I have made many claims without backing them up with evidence.

...that was on the news from several years ago. That is only one out of several methods.
Yes, cancer comes in several versions (four in particular), one of them being a fungus.
I will also add : Just because a lie is repeated a bunch of times does not suddenly make it no longer a lie.
Chemo-Therapy is not the "only" option available just because it keeps getting repeated.
Now go back up there and re-play that news clip that I posted and come to a realisation;
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You claim that cancer is not incurable is pretty vague. Cancer is not one thing there a many types. Of course many cancer have a good prognosis of survival if treated early enough. Other have a very slim to non-existent chance.

Everybody knows that chemo is destructive, especially doctors. There is no conspiracy there. Chemo is a brutal process, better treatments have and will be developed. However sometimes it is the only option available. It will be phased out hopefully.

Yes sometimes better treatment are available elsewhere, and not available in that hospital or provider.

My friend has type 1 diabetes becuase of chemo, however he is alive.


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06 Jun 2016, 12:38 pm

My mum's cancer in the bowel has spread to her liver too, but only a tiny bit. But she had no symptoms of bowel cancer before, which is why it's got to this stage now. It all started off when she was rushed to hospital with kidney stones (completely unrelated to the cancer), and while in hospital they noticed she had a mass on her womb. They done an operation on that and successfully took the whole womb and ovaries out, but they had to do tests to see if it has come from anywhere else, and found that it started in the bowel.

She keeps on saying she probably won't be here this time next year, and I don't know if that's really true or if it's just her being pessimistic. It's really horrifying, because just a few months ago I didn't even know I was going to lose my mum, now I could only have less than a year with her. That is too much to accept. It's also fear and uncertainty. Nobody knows how the chemo will be with her and how long she has left. I'd rather know an approximate time, than to not know. It's really frustrating, and I keep on breaking down. But all I want to do is freak out; run around screaming in sheer panic, then maybe I might get some accurate answers. But, I suppose that won't really help, as nobody knows the outcome of this. At least not yet. Hopefully once she starts the treatment the doctors might know a little bit more of her lifespan and the immune system part.

Another thing is, I work at a care home, where you often pick up viruses. Well, I don't normally, but I don't know if I could be carrying the virus then passing it on to a very vulnerable person like my mum will be. So I am going to get really anxious when there is a flu or something else that could turn into something awful like pneumonia in vulnerable people. But where I work, the head office is so nasty about people having time off, that they get on to your back even if you have one day off. I think I will talk to the doctor, maybe they can sign me off in flu season (which is winter).

But I am so worried about all this. I can't imagine my mum not around any more. She never even got a chance to gradually grow old, like people should. Instead, she's gone to a healthy, fit woman who never smoked or drank and always had a healthy diet, to now a dying patient. I can't take that in. :cry: :cry:


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06 Jun 2016, 1:54 pm

There's no way you can pass your mother's "virus" to another person.

Cancer is rarely caused by viruses. And it's rarely, it at all, transmitted like something like a cold is transmitted.

Did your mother ever tell you what "stage" the cancer is in?



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06 Jun 2016, 2:20 pm

My mother has metastatic colorectal cancer. Already as she got the diagnosis, cancer had spread to several locations in her liver.

Initially my mother was very depressed and sick. And just like your mother her view on possible life expectancy was very low. Also just like your mother she thought she will not see the next summer/winter/birthday. But as the treatments started and they shrinked the tumors, she got better both mentally and physically.

It's now three years since she went to the doctor. They stopped treatments altogether half a year ago, since they hadn't been working.

But still if we would just be in another situation or lived in another country, there could be more options available. In other countries they have treatments available we don't have here. Also in other countries there are more clinical trials available and more private options. I tried looking them for my mother in Finland, but there wasn't unfortunately any available for her cancer.

So I basically wanted to offer you hope, for there is hope. Also your mother's situation seems like they might operate her, if the treatments work well.

You can hope for cure in any case and even without it you might have several years with your mum. I understand the looming sense and fear of loss. I feel and felt the same. I truly hope all the best for you and your family.



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06 Jun 2016, 2:23 pm

I know somebody who lived about 25 years with cancer in multiple locations.

Sometimes, it's about the attitude (truly).

A good attitude is often healing. I've seen this in action many times.



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06 Jun 2016, 2:29 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
There's no way you can pass your mother's "virus" to another person.


I think Joe90 was more concerned about picking up a virus at the care home where she works and transmitting it to her mum, who would have a compromised immune system due to the chemotherapy, rather than the other way around.



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06 Jun 2016, 2:38 pm

Oh okay.....should have discerned that.



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06 Jun 2016, 3:53 pm

YellowBanana wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There's no way you can pass your mother's "virus" to another person.


I think Joe90 was more concerned about picking up a virus at the care home where she works and transmitting it to her mum, who would have a compromised immune system due to the chemotherapy, rather than the other way around.


Yes, I did mean that.

But it's ok, kraftiekortie, you are being just as supportive as all the others here. Thank you all.

I just keep on hoping that the doctors have made a mistake, and will tell her that the cancer is curable or something.


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06 Jun 2016, 4:51 pm

I hope so, too.