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29 Nov 2017, 6:46 pm

I guess that its an aspie thing.



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29 Nov 2017, 7:00 pm

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Maybe it's a fear thing.
Like, you get too close so they panic and sabotage the friendship.


I was thinking something like this, Raleigh.
It all becomes too much to maintain the relationship so it is easier to push the other away.


They did mention that they were very adept at burning bridges so I gave them a lot more leeway knowing this but it just got too much for me to cope with as I'm coming to terms with being autistic. I would try to talk them down and just say it was their anxiety but it got more and more intense and eventually I knew there was nothing I could say to help , they had made up their mind about me. It was like I dealing with a very paranoid person who was seeing things that were not there. I'm sure I could of sent a message just saying 'fish' and this would of be misinterpreted as an insult or something worse.


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29 Nov 2017, 7:02 pm

I feel quite bad about it all as I feel faulty as I was unable to help or deal with this persons anxiety.


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29 Nov 2017, 7:15 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
I feel quite bad about it all as I feel faulty as I was unable to help or deal with this persons anxiety.


It's not your fault.

Some people choose to be miserable, push away any real attempts at help, refuse to change ... but will keep whining from now until the end of the world about how miserable they are ... hoping to get people to keep feeling sorry for them and trying to "save" them ... because they like the attention. So they really weren't interested in solving their problem in the first place. At least, not interested enough to do anything at all to improve themselves.



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29 Nov 2017, 7:18 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
I'm sure I could of sent a message just saying 'fish' and this would of be misinterpreted as an insult or something worse.


Fish?
Did you just say, ... 'fish'? 8O

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29 Nov 2017, 7:26 pm

Happened to me in a different online community years ago. I befriended/was befriended by someone who knew their Dx was borderline personality disorder - they were open about it. This person was gifted, talented, amazingly perceptive, in treatment, doing really well. We chatted for a few months.

Then, all of a sudden, several things went wrong for them at once; they became overwhelmed and lashed out at me. Irrationally. Severely. Frighteningly.

I made efforts to "get through" to them, but they were in a place that reason could not find, and no matter what I said, they interpreted it as hostile, critical, etc. Ultimately I just gave up and disappeared. Not proud of that, but I'd exhausted all sane options.

I still think about this person now and then and I hope they found a way through. Whatever was going on with them, I didn't cause it and I couldn't cure it. Same with you, Ferris.


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30 Nov 2017, 9:42 am

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Has anyone here struck up a friendship with another member and believe that everything was fine but then as each new message comes in , they accuse you of something different then eventually they , self destruct , twist everything on it's head and say that that you're manipulative when all you've done is been a friend.

Is this a common thing amongst Aspies or this forum ?




I had that happen but I think those people have something going on. Don't let them discourage you from talking to new people. Once you realize they have mental issues, that means you did nothing wrong and don't worry about it because you then know it was them and not you and a normal person isn't going to feel that way about you.


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30 Nov 2017, 9:46 am

Raleigh wrote:
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Hmm.
I wonder if it was the same member who did it to me and quite a few others I know of on here?
It sounds very familiar.


what? There's a member here who does this regularly ? wtf ?

Yes, there is, unfortunately.
I hope you have not been too hurt by their behaviour.
I can only say the problem is with THEM and certainly not with you.


I wondered if you were talking about someone who I think I know but she hasn't been here in six years and your joined date is in 2014 so not her then since she was here before you and left before you came. Unless this isn't your first account.


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30 Nov 2017, 10:38 am

Mr Ferris,
You are struggling to get your head around lots of things at present including your diagnosis.
Please be kind to yourself and put yourself first as much as you can.
I know with a caring nature like yours this is difficult but you have stuff to deal with too.
You have many friends on here, I hope you know how much people appreciate you.
It's a blow when others suddenly turn on you and reject your kind hand of friendship.
I hope you can let go of the blame as you are a marvellous human being.
Self-compassion is paramount - give yourself some kindness.



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30 Nov 2017, 11:58 am

the_phoenix wrote:

It's not your fault.

Some people choose to be miserable, push away any real attempts at help, refuse to change ... but will keep whining from now until the end of the world about how miserable they are ... hoping to get people to keep feeling sorry for them and trying to "save" them ... because they like the attention. So they really weren't interested in solving their problem in the first place. At least, not interested enough to do anything at all to improve themselves.


You could be right , I feel like I don't know anything at the moment.

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SaveFerris wrote:
I'm sure I could of sent a message just saying 'fish' and this would of be misinterpreted as an insult or something worse.


Fish?
Did you just say, ... 'fish'? 8O

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AAAAAUUUUUGGGGGHHHHH!

* faints *
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:lol: sorry I left you on the floor so long *wafts smelling salts under the_phoenix nose*


Esmerelda Weatherwax wrote:
Happened to me in a different online community years ago. I befriended/was befriended by someone who knew their Dx was borderline personality disorder - they were open about it. This person was gifted, talented, amazingly perceptive, in treatment, doing really well. We chatted for a few months.

Then, all of a sudden, several things went wrong for them at once; they became overwhelmed and lashed out at me. Irrationally. Severely. Frighteningly.

I made efforts to "get through" to them, but they were in a place that reason could not find, and no matter what I said, they interpreted it as hostile, critical, etc. Ultimately I just gave up and disappeared. Not proud of that, but I'd exhausted all sane options.

I still think about this person now and then and I hope they found a way through. Whatever was going on with them, I didn't cause it and I couldn't cure it. Same with you, Ferris.


Sounds familiar but who knows what the issue is.

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I had that happen but I think those people have something going on. Don't let them discourage you from talking to new people. Once you realize they have mental issues, that means you did nothing wrong and don't worry about it because you then know it was them and not you and a normal person isn't going to feel that way about you.


thanks for the encouragement , I think it will take a while before open up again to anyone.

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I wondered if you were talking about someone who I think I know but she hasn't been here in six years and your joined date is in 2014 so not her then since she was here before you and left before you came. Unless this isn't your first account.


This is my first account , autism wasn't even on my radar before 2016 when I joined , although I am tempted to start another account so try and start afresh.

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Mr Ferris,
You are struggling to get your head around lots of things at present including your diagnosis.
Please be kind to yourself and put yourself first as much as you can.
I know with a caring nature like yours this is difficult but you have stuff to deal with too.
You have many friends on here, I hope you know how much people appreciate you.
It's a blow when others suddenly turn on you and reject your kind hand of friendship.
I hope you can let go of the blame as you are a marvellous human being.
Self-compassion is paramount - give yourself some kindness.


Thanks for the kind words dude , it doesn't make me feel any better but thanks anyway :)


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I guess that its an aspie thing.


It would appear it might be which is a real shame :(


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30 Nov 2017, 12:11 pm

I know my words won't make you feel any better but at least I can say I care.
You have made me feel very welcome on here and I thank you for that.
Big hug to ya dude.



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30 Nov 2017, 12:21 pm

Temeraire wrote:
I know my words won't make you feel any better but at least I can say I care.
You have made me feel very welcome on here and I thank you for that.
Big hug to ya dude.


I'm ok with virtual hugs so I'll hug you back :lol:


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30 Nov 2017, 12:29 pm

* comes to *

Please count me in as one of your admirers too, SaveFerris.
I've always appreciated reading your posts. :)



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30 Nov 2017, 12:42 pm

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30 Nov 2017, 12:55 pm

the_phoenix wrote:
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Please count me in as one of your admirers too, SaveFerris.
I've always appreciated reading your posts. :)


Thanks :)


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30 Nov 2017, 12:56 pm

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You smooth talking bar steward :lol:


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