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06 Mar 2018, 6:04 am

I have a relitive in Bakersfield who says it's more affordable and that kern county has a good system for helping the needy. I've visted it a few times and it seemed pretty nice there.



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06 Mar 2018, 6:15 am

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Similar to the high cost of housing here.

But it’s not like that from sea to sea. There are plenty of places between the coasts where rent is dirt cheap.



I wonder how Alberta compaires to BC.



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06 Mar 2018, 10:00 am

...OK, now the " get outta town suggestions have gone from implicit " go to another state " to " stay in Cali ". Perhaps someone remembered that benefits in the U. S. can considerably differ from state to state and that, as far as medical care goes, not only is what available in California I believe better than what is available under the ACA-Obamacare, some of the " redder " states in America are actively trying to sabotage Obamacare by refusing to carry out their legal obligations under the existing law! 8O
That aside, I do have these medical problems. I am in the hospital right now over that water weight having ballooned up YET AGAIN and water in my lungs. There's my need to go to the retinologist - eye doctor - as well, although that's been slowed :(.
All of these problems will remain in a new town. At the least, I'd have to start from square one all over again. That goes for other agency relationship S, too, and the question of " Why did you come here? " 8O !


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06 Mar 2018, 10:12 am

You should definitely stay put for now.



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06 Mar 2018, 10:25 am

Apartments in Inland Empire are, for sure, cheaper than the San Francisco Bay area, but at an average of $1200/month for a one bedroom, still too expensive for ASS-P (or me, as a matter of fact).

https://www.apartmentguide.com/apartmen ... &gclsrc=ds

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/d/a ... search/apa



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06 Mar 2018, 10:28 am

If you go to Red Bluff or places like that, the apartments are really cheap---in the $600-800 range for a decent apartment.

It's a nice, scenic area. And at the altitude of Red Bluff, it hardly ever snows.

The main problem is probably the isolation.

I saw some places in Rialto for under $1,000. Rialto is in the Inland Empire.



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06 Mar 2018, 10:45 am

Re: Red Bluff, CA

Political affiliation: leans right.
https://www.homefacts.com/politics/Cali ... Bluff.html

Red Bluff is home to the nationally recognized women's outdoor apparel company, Girls with Guns® Clothing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bluff,_California

The annual Red Bluff Round-Up, first held in 1921, has become one of the west's largest rodeos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bluff,_California

Maybe ASS-P might fit in there, but a gay, black, immigrant, artistic left winger like me would be in torturous hell.



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06 Mar 2018, 10:48 am

Have you ever been to the CityData website?

On this website, people talk about their experiences in various (many) cities and towns in the United States.

Very illuminating.

You might have a black person ask: "How would I get along in Red Bluff?"

I merely mentioned Red Bluff because the rents are relatively cheap there.



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06 Mar 2018, 11:15 am

Re: Red Bluff - All quotes are from City Data.

"Cowboy mentality with some illegal pickers thrown in."
"Not much going on.. everyone used to drive to Redding before Wal-Mart showed up there."
"Not enough women with teeth."
"RB rolls up after 7 pm... no movie theatre,, no production company..etc etc.. just some country western bars."
"Come to an area where meth was the traditional drug of low lifes and you'll know what I mean."
"Red Bluff is still considered a "Cow Town"; what with the Round-Up and the Bull Sale being the most notable local events."
"Rednecks getting in fist fights at the local bar."

http://www.city-data.com/forum/californ ... bluff.html



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06 Mar 2018, 11:21 am

Well. I guess we can rule out Red Bluff, then.....

I wasn't seriously thinking about it as a place for ASS-P to live in. I was just thinking "cheap rents."

Fresno also has cheap rents---but the gang thing is big there.



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06 Mar 2018, 12:02 pm

Fresno looks very promising as it has a lot of homeless shelters (27) and public housing spaces managed by the Fresno Housing Authority.

http://fresnohousing.org/

https://www.thehomelessassistant.com/ci ... alifornia/

Statistically, Fresno looks better than Santa Cruz, too. To wit:

Santa Cruz - pop. 63,000. Homeless pop. 9,000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz,_California

Fresno - pop. 520,000. Homeless pop. 1,500
http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/art ... 63594.html



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06 Mar 2018, 12:11 pm

It’s a fairly large city. It rarely snows, but it gets REALLY hot in the summer. 110 is not unusual.

How is your thing going in that artsy place near Seattle?



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06 Mar 2018, 12:20 pm

The winter shelter closes at the end of this month. At that time I'll probably look for a temporary room somewhere and sit tight for a couple of months till a subsidized unit becomes available.



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06 Mar 2018, 12:22 pm

I hope you get it soon.



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06 Mar 2018, 12:28 pm

EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Similar to the high cost of housing here.

But it’s not like that from sea to sea. There are plenty of places between the coasts where rent is dirt cheap.



I wonder how Alberta compaires to BC.


Housing cost wise? Since we're least affordable, everywhere in Canada is more affordable than the Vancouver area of BC.

The major cities aren't dirt cheap, but their prices fluctuate with the boom & bust cycles of oil. Alberta's whole economy does. They've never learned to diversify much at all. My uncle's house in the suburbs of Calgary is worth $600K or so & it'd be worth nearly double in the suburbs of Vancouver. Housing is expensive in Calgary and Edmonton, but salaries (for those who are working.. bust cycle) are higher. It's more affordable there than here. More rural parts of Alberta are significantly less expensive than elsewhere since there's very little money there except farm work - unless you're way North working in the oil patch out of Fort McMurray, then housing costs can be rather Vancouver-astronomical. Housing costs in the BC interior are skyrocketing, too - it's retirement Mecca for the whole country. Small Northern towns still have reasonable housing costs.. but then you may be faced with ASS-P like problems of accessing medical care etc if you're too remote and the closest hospital is a few towns over few hour drive through the mountains kind of thing.


^Yeah, doesn't make much sense for ASS-P to relocate unless he's able to pre-arrange literally everything.. medical services, a room to stay, social services etc. He might be better off getting a roommate or two in the town he's in & splitting the rent on some place.


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06 Mar 2018, 12:39 pm

Last week I drove my shelter friend to Bellingham. While there, I thought it'd be nice to visit Canada. When I got to the border, the customs man gave me unbelievable grief. He told me he didn't want me in Canada because I'm homeless and would try to stay there. I told him that that was not my intention. After going through my car with a fine tooth comb, and asking me a million questions, he reluctantly let me enter.

I was so angry, I drove into Aldergrove, Canada, stopped at a Pizza Hut, bought a small order of breadsticks, and promptly drove back to the U.S., a visit that lasted less than 15 minutes.