natural remedies to help with anxiety

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15 Jul 2018, 12:28 pm

Esmerelda Weatherwax wrote:
^ like aspirin (from willow tree bark),
quinine (from cinchona tree bark),
antibiotics such as streptomycin, vancomycin, aureomycin, erythromycin, lincomycin, and clindamycin - among many (derived mainly from various soil bacteria),
the antifungal Amphotericin B and its relatives (derived from bacteria as well),
vinblastine, vinorelbine, vincristine, and vindesine (anticancer drugs from the ground cover plant Vinca major),
taxol (anticancer drug derived from the Pacific yew),
and the cyclosporine immunosuppressant/transplant drugs (derived from soil fungus)?

(and many more)

No placebos there.

Sorry - I trained as a PhD chemist/biochemist, even if I haven't been at the lab bench for 30+ years at this point. Just because the principal active compound hasn't yet been isolated or independently synthesized doesn't mean it isn't there and doesn't work.

I don't mean to be harsh, but I don't like seeing what's quite often "applied pharmacognosy" dismissed as "woo" when natural products chemistry in the lab has proven many times that it's more like "wow".

And yes, I know there are hoaxes, and wishful thinking, and I'm well aware that the placebo effect is real. It confounded the study of major antidepressants for many years - largely because the big pharma houses were too timid to do more than modify their existing molecules when looking for new ones.

Not trying to bash you, honestly. But people on fixed incomes, and disabled people especially, do need to know that there are *some* natural remedies that are not only affordable and accessible, they actually work.

Oh, as a PS - garlic contains compounds that make it an anticoagulant, and a very effective one; the omega-3 fatty acids in fish oil are also known for this. Conventional physicians now specifically warn patients to stop taking these prior to surgery or in the final trimester of pregnancy, to prevent complications.


Yes, I am aware of all these effective 'natural' remedies, but am concerned that people often put misplaced trust in the latest snake oil, rather than effective treatment. CBT is effective for anxiety for many. It's worth a try.



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15 Jul 2018, 6:01 pm

I really feel for you. Anxiety may be the worst of all the symptoms in how it can screw up a perfectly good day. Especially when it does not appear to have a good reason.

I use meditation, reading novels, and rest. When these don't work, I make lists and follow the list compulsively. I see my anxiety now as a storm I have to paddle through, waves, wet, misery...but gotta keep going until the calm returns.


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15 Jul 2018, 9:35 pm

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I sometimes drink passion flower tea. It comes in droplets and pills as well. It really calms my nerves.

I found Passion flower tincture helped me too with anxiety. Sleepytime tea helps too if you can stay awake.



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15 Jul 2018, 9:42 pm

Ginger tea gives me a calm feeling and helps me sleep if taken before bed.
I find fresh ginger root works best.
Hot chillies also work, but not sure if that's just me. :?

There's also square breathing and yoga.


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16 Jul 2018, 1:06 pm

Esmerelda Weatherwax wrote:
Magna wrote:
I make a tincture of St. John's Wort and have been taking it twice daily for over a year. I believe it helps. There was a study done which showed that it was as effective as anti anxiety meds.

I buy dry organic, then powder it in my blender. Then soak it in organic vodka in glass jars for months. Strain with an unbleached paper coffee filter into a glass jar. 2.5 eye droppers in water morning and night


Be careful with St. John's Wort - it can increase the risk of cataracts in susceptible people. To reduce that risk, and this is *not* a joke, try eating pumpkin (the canned, precooked stuff is really nice if you season it with cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger and a dash of clove, and eat it warm with a little butter). The orange pigments in the pumpkin are antioxidants and seem to be quite effective in protecting the lens of the eye.

This all comes, by the way, from direct personal experience - a little over a year on SJW, then noticed clouding of lenses and began to panic. Most aldose reductase blockers have unpleasant side effects (that's the most effective orally dosed protectant against cataracts - known so far) but the carotenoids in pumpkin flesh don't seem to. PS, carrots do help, but there's a wider range of pigments in pumpkin. Also PS, I can now look directly at illuminated fluorescent lights and see no haze whatsoever, whereas a year ago they were shrouded in fog due to lens clouding.

Anecdotal, but the thing is: a statistically significant dataset is simply a meta-anecdote with a consensus.


Thank you for the cautionary information regarding St. John's Wort, Ms. Weatherwax.

Would some sort of beta-carotene supplement help to counter any potentially negative effects of the SJW in regard to cataracts?



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17 Jul 2018, 11:38 pm

Epsom salts on your skin to absorb for the magnesium & sulphur. We need these minerals to be able to urinate out excess food acids. If we’re deficient in these minerals, food acids build and so does anxiety & depression. You can eat a pinch, too, but they don’t taste great.


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28 Jul 2018, 4:12 am

There's a certain naturally occurring amino acid known as 5-htp. Its supposedly a precursor to the natural feel good chemical serotonin. There is of course controversy over its effectiveness as an antidepressant and I unfortunately have not had any first hand experience with it. Some claim it acts like an antidepressant. It may be worth a try.


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29 Jul 2018, 9:36 am

I've been taking 5-htp for a couple of months. I also take rhodiola root which is supposed to help with anxiety.
Jury's out still on effectiveness of both.


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