I'm going to get stabbed walking to work

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Those are all illegal In the UK. They don’t have a right to self defense.

We have the right to self defense but not to carry anything that is a weapon.

How about a personal alarm?

Sorry to hear things are so bad where you live.

I used to do a 20 minute walk to work for couple years. Even did it in -21 Celsius weather!

well i'd mess around the whole district as a kid. my school and musical school were both quite far away from home, and i so HATED it in bus. ya, kid aspie wants her space. so she'd risk rather than be among many ppl. as a student, becoming bigger and having years of training i'd do even more of on-foot movement. got really shown why i shouldnt, but still wouldnt stop. self-destructive? more like, used to enviroment. there is a maniac in that park, everybody knows it. but aspie kid just doesnt bother. didnt meet that maniac btw xd got in trouble at a later age, in different place. the one that was quite considered safe zone. ya. now i'd minimize my walking, even if i have to put up with a bus. got fat and lazy, ya. or just, got less time and a toddler. the city had become safer over the years. or so they say. at least, kids today dont factor terrorism in their perception xD and then, they are not allowed to mess around on their own as we did. wonder how, yep. guess its another era or something.

If I lived in England, and was prohibited from even considering a firearm (despite my royal cousins' demand for such protection, themselves), I would buy a cricket bat, and rest it on my shoulder fast. The advantage of a bat is that it extends an individual batsman's reach and velocity while some half-drunk, brain-dead, hooligan with a steak knife (or simply fists) would need to step voluntarily into that wicket range of some serious injuries. Even the thickest lager lout would think twice about that match up.

They don't make any demands at all. It's up to the police to decide who does and who doesn't need armed protection.

They are and have been for many years targets.

Cricket bats are really difficult to wield.

Why a steak knife? was he eating dinner and suddenly decided to attack a random stranger?

I’ve read too many news stories about people defending themselves over there and going to jail while same cases here would been open shut and ever go pass a police report and the police saying well done.

there are such stories. a woman cutting up a rapist and getting jailed for it. generally in this country u cant use anything more than what was used against u. and nobody cares if ur offender is physically stronger or came from behind. the responce cannot be bigger. they have fists, u cant pull a knife. they have knife, u cant shoot them (and u generally cant have a gun, either). but well im not in UK, so no idea whats it like there. generally even here, even when it was really dangerous, a chance of getting in trouble for an individual was fairly low. i dont believe in safety, but odds are really not so much. there is a reason to be afraid, allways. but there is a reason to step over it, too.

That's because what they do is not illegal in the US. In the UK there is a clear distinction between someone carrying

a weapon and someone who doesn't. It could only help in explaining this if I explained the whole system which

would derail the OPs thread. I would quite like to discuss how our system works and find out how the US system

works but I don't dare talk about it on RRP because people get angry and might think I am saying that the US

should change. I think a lot of things get misunderstood and misrepresented.

Perhaps Cricket bats are a little heavy and unwieldy in matches where points count, but I suspect a well-placed wallop to a leg, arm or chest would get the attention warranted.

A steak knife is what Americans are told will be "next in line for U.K. prohibition" (slight joke).

America has Stand Your Ground laws which basically allow you to kill anyone who p!sses you off. A guy starts a fight because someone pulled into his parking space. A friend of the guy who started the fight can pull out a gun & kill the person who pulled into the parking space because they were fighting in self defense against his friend. This has happened before. But for some reason when a woman shoots an abusive husband or ex in self defense, everyone throws the book at her & she gets the maximum jail sentence for murder.

Mmm, not quite. Alongside stand-your-ground laws, every state has laws defining lethality in incremental steps. No one in the United States may simply "kill anyone."

It is already prohibited if you walk around with it hidden under your cloths ect because it is then a weapon. It is not

illegal to buy/own/eat with. There are lots of other things that would make better weapons than steak knives that

are legal too such as craft tools. Just don't carry them through the streets unless you also have the rest of your

craft stuff with you too. Now if I was walking down the street at night with a Stanley knife in my pocket and a

rolled up carpet under my arm and a man tried to attack me and I cut him with the Stanley knife I would totally

get away with it. If I killed him it's possible it would go to trial but I would still get off. I am confident on this.

So you’d rather people be required to try to flee and be killed then have the right to defense their life?
Sorry you should have just tried to get around the rapist I. Yiur bedoom and escape out the front door, off to prison for you.
I not turning my back on someone who’s trying to kill me.

No that situation only applies if the person he’s fighting with is gotten the upper hand and is now about to kill the guy. Who started the fight doesn’t really matter, it’s cimplicated situation by situation thing. I can’t fight so if someone starts beating the s**t out of me I have reasonable fear that I’ll die, should I not be able to use whatever force is needed to prevent that?

Say you start a fight then mid way through you end up on the ground with the guy repeatedly hitting your head, so you shoot him, are you a murder? Or did the guy use excessive lethal force on you requiring you to use force to stop him?

Are you talking about the lady that drove across country broke into her ex’s house, stabbed him 30+ times then shot him in the head? That’s preplanned murder.

Everyone is all for a woman shooting her ex who breaks into her house, well excep the anti gun people they’d rather she be told by the police that no one can come as the police only work 9-5 and not on weekends and the nearest state trooper is 3 hours a way, so just ask him to leave nicely as he rapes yiu and beats you to death and oh have a nice day.

Oh but then did eventually catch the guy, too late for her as she wa s nearly beaten to death.

This is my last reply on this matter as this is about joe and her issue not about defense laws

^Yea we have kind of taken over Joe's thread. Sorry Joe.

The same is true in the United States. It is exactly how we treat firearms, too. This all proves that killers will kill, and they won't care too much by the method used.