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28 Oct 2018, 9:52 am

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How many people on here feel it's likely you will be driven to take your own life at some point?
I do not have any immediate plans or intent to harm myself, but I feel it's inevitable that I will likely kill myself eventually.
Is this feeling common among Aspies?


No. I have no formal diagnosis of ASD though, so maybe I’m not Aspie. I do have diagnoses for mental illnesses, for which I am medicated. That helps.

I also self-monitor. If I’m feeling badly, I assess whether I’m doing these 5 things:

1) limiting alcohol (a depressant)
2) getting adequate sleep
3) practicing mindfulness
4) eating whole foods
5) exercising

I’ve also found it helpful to find someone less fortunate than I & to help them. Since I am not a people-person, this amounted to me volunteering at an animal shelter. I spent a year walking shelter dogs. I felt a real affinity with shelter dogs, as society discarded me just like it discarded them.



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28 Oct 2018, 10:37 am

hobojungle wrote:

I also self-monitor. If I’m feeling badly, I assess whether I’m doing these 5 things:

I'll give my thoughts on how these relate to my situation.

1) limiting alcohol (a depressant) I never drink alcohol. My life is sh!tty enough to keep me depressed without any help.
2) getting adequate sleep Never do. And there's nothing I can do to change that. It is completely outside of my control.
3) practicing mindfulness "Mindfulness" is too nebulous. I have no idea what to make of this.
4) eating whole foods
5) exercising
I'm going to group the last two, as my response to both is the same: I know this is something I should be doing, and it is technically my fault that I am not. But depression can be a tricky thing; makes it extremely difficult to maintain motivation and commitment. I've had many false started on both that I just never managed to stick with for this reason.



Someone less fortunate than me? Might as well take up Unicorn hunting.



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28 Oct 2018, 11:15 am

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No. I still have no immediate plans of suicide. But as the thread title suggests, its inevitable for someone like me. And what pisses me off is that when that moment does come, I know that the piece of sh!t NT society that has driven me to this point with its never-ending abuses won't just let me be. As if its any of their goddamned business.

I used to feel like this a lot. As I said, I believed it's nothing special, the life is unbearable and everyone experiences it this way.
With a lot of help from my therapist, I'm learning to identiify the sources of my suffering, so I can deal with them. But it wasn't a few weeks' work, it's almost two years now and not finished yet.
The more messed up your past experiences, the more work to sort them out - but it's possible.


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28 Oct 2018, 11:33 am

i have a feeling that nothing we say here matters to topic starter. NT society on its own doesnt do anything to u. ya s**t happens. certain NTs can be very nasty. and sometimes it feels like there is only that kind, but its JUST because u notice them first. think nobody else got s**t from NTs? haha x3. cant work on ur own head, get a shrink to do that for u. i am alive now, because of NT people who wouldnt let me go. who had spent dozens of hours talking me down. but it took a bit of trust leap to let them know whats happening to me. to listen to them. to find out they really care. it might feel like u against the world. it will feel so even when u know its a lie. a lie u have to fight against. with all u've got. im winning here. i wish u same.


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28 Oct 2018, 12:50 pm

magnetowasright wrote:
hobojungle wrote:

I also self-monitor. If I’m feeling badly, I assess whether I’m doing these 5 things:

I'll give my thoughts on how these relate to my situation.

1) limiting alcohol (a depressant) I never drink alcohol. My life is sh!tty enough to keep me depressed without any help.
2) getting adequate sleep Never do. And there's nothing I can do to change that. It is completely outside of my control.
3) practicing mindfulness "Mindfulness" is too nebulous. I have no idea what to make of this.
4) eating whole foods
5) exercising
I'm going to group the last two, as my response to both is the same: I know this is something I should be doing, and it is technically my fault that I am not. But depression can be a tricky thing; makes it extremely difficult to maintain motivation and commitment. I've had many false started on both that I just never managed to stick with for this reason.



Someone less fortunate than me? Might as well take up Unicorn hunting.


I’m sorry to hear that.



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28 Oct 2018, 1:09 pm

I'm stubborn, for better or for worse.
I (for the most part) can't stand the world and our species, and I most certainly don't fit in anywhere, and people have always been kind enough to remind me at every opportunity. But I have ways to make life liveable and somehow I'm sort of optimistic about the future. I have this feeling that things will turn out for the best in the end. Though my definition of "for the best" may sometimes differ from that of others.



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28 Oct 2018, 1:17 pm

It's not inevitable.

Although other members here would love to help you, we can only speak from personal experience. I suffered from PTSD for two years before getting diagnosed as being on the spectrum. It was terrible and included insomnia, panic attacks and inability to function adequately.

I don't need medication anymore and can cope much better. The doctor who treated me knew what she was doing.

Do consider seeking professional medical advice.

Also, there is indeed a lot wrong with the world as it is but that's precisely why we need as many of us "misfits" as possible, to turn things around!


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28 Oct 2018, 4:54 pm

From the age of 17 to 22, I was convinced that suicide was how my life was going to end, everything just seemed to be building up to it. I'd been struggling, off and on, with an agonizing feeling of loss and longing since the age of 3, but by 17 I was completely consumed by it 24/7 after projecting those feelings onto other situations and only adding to it, rather than working it out. It reached the point where I thought I might as well just try the self-medicating route, I'd nothing to lose, and that actually did help me reacquaint myself with feelings of joy and wonder at being alive, long enough to forge a long term relationship and start a family. The last few years however, the old sensation of loss and longing has begun to get the better of me again.



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28 Oct 2018, 6:55 pm

I've actually attempted suicide twice by overdosing on my medication. Sometimes life gets so hard that you feel like death is the only way to escape the pain you feel. When you are surrounded by people who are either being cruel to you or don't seem to understand you it makes that pain feel a whole lot worse.



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29 Oct 2018, 1:57 am

I felt like that as a teen. I kind of quit that thinking 1ce I got in my 1st realtionship. However it came back when I fell into a psychotic depression over the realtionship ending. I kind of still felt like that till I got in my 2nd one which was about 8 years later. I haven't really thought about killing myself or felt like it since then.


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29 Oct 2018, 2:33 am

I went from being appalled at how people in general treated me, to angry, to cold indifference in the manner that one would be indifferent to a bug.



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29 Oct 2018, 2:51 am

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I went from being appalled at how people in general treated me, to angry, to cold indifference in the manner that one would be indifferent to a bug.
When I went to angry, I contemplated majorly hurting or killing them. I also used to fantasize about doing a skewl shooting before I graduated but it was just fantasy. I really didn't hate or majorly disliked any of my classmates or teachers or anything. Perhaps it was just stress. I'm not like that anymore since the depression lifted.


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29 Oct 2018, 2:55 am

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auntblabby wrote:
I went from being appalled at how people in general treated me, to angry, to cold indifference in the manner that one would be indifferent to a bug.
When I went to angry, I contemplated majorly hurting or killing them. I also used to fantasize about doing a skewl shooting before I graduated but it was just fantasy. I really didn't hate or majorly disliked any of my classmates or teachers or anything. Perhaps it was just stress. I'm not like that anymore since the depression lifted.

I had my fantasies also which sustained me in a dark period. not anybody being hurt but the bullies being "scared straight" by a bunch of truly intimidating thugs who showed them what for, similar to that tv documentary "scared straight."



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29 Oct 2018, 9:43 am

I really don't like admitting it, but whenever I get angry at the world I often feel the same way. I feel like if I were sitting in front of a button that would detonate every bomb on the planet I would push it without giving it a second thought.

It scares me the way I think like that whenever I am too angry or upset and I know it's because I have Bipolar Disorder. :(



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29 Oct 2018, 9:58 am

Boom!

I know you wouldn't actually push all those buttons!

Think of all the puppies...who are often better company than many fellow humans!


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29 Oct 2018, 10:02 am

NB: not trying to trivialize the OP's issues. But I do honestly believe it's therapeutic to have a dog or other emotional support animal, if they can. Beats a lot of human company.

It also provides a means whereby one has a goal, namely to care for the animal in return for that unconditional love.


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