I need to learn forgiveness

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29 Dec 2018, 3:05 pm

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I finally realized why forgiveness is important. I always brag about the way I hold onto grudges but I'm starting to realize how that has really destroyed me. People have done and said some very hurtful things to me over the years and when I obsess on it and don't let it go it hurts me over time. I need to stop destroying myself.

Forgiveness isn't about letting the other person get away with wronging you, it's really about healing yourself and it helps you to love yourself more instead of hating yourself for what people do to you.

If I want to live in a world with love and peace then I myself need to be loving and peaceful insteadvof hateful.

And most of all I need to learn to forgive myself.


Well said. :heart:


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29 Dec 2018, 11:31 pm

Forgiving yourself for your Mistakes is the most important thing, i agree. Other people come and go but you're stuck with yourself for a lifetime. It's best to have a good relationship with yourself.



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30 Dec 2018, 10:05 am

Sometimes forgiveness is too idealistic

So I asked the counselor what the next best thing was

Answer:. Suppression



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30 Dec 2018, 1:58 pm

Learning forgiveness is still a work in progress for me. :(



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30 Dec 2018, 5:55 pm

What I find difficult (or unrealistic or unreasonable) about "forgiveness", is that some precious lil "people" do not admit that they were wrong

And the "sorry" for sympathy, is the same as the "sorry" for an apology

For example, "sorry she scared you", a dog owner had the nerve to tell me. (Like, sorry you are afraid of dogs). Not " I apologize for violating the Leash Law

Sometimes they totally miss the point

And sometimes, a verbal apology is not enough to fix the problem, but they act like it is


Financial reparations necessary



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31 Dec 2018, 9:52 am

Being angry about what the world has done to me and others like me only hurts ME, not them. If they never apologize to me then they are never going to feel guilt over it so why should I stay angry expecting them to one day feel bad?

Forgiveness for me is about letting go so that I myself can heal and not obsessively give a damn about those people.



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31 Dec 2018, 11:30 am

feeling angry is a natural reaction. and ya ppl who hurt u most somehow never bother to acknowledge the harm they'd done, let alone try to make it up to u. so well. rage, yell, write angry posts - vent it out. do it as much as needed, till angre goes shallow. then throw the empty shell, that had been ur hate, aside, and move on. sometimes it doesnt work. but then sometimes it does. i've got a memory board for names of people who had f****d me up. i dont forget it. never. but i try to keep the perpetual impact to a possible minimum. the damage had been done. it cant be reverted, but it can be subsided to a degree. so well in a manner its not forgiveness. its like, i dont know, keeping bullets with names on them, but keeping them somewhere in a remote storage under lock and key. yes, i am a horrible person xD


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31 Dec 2018, 11:39 am

Last night I found that writing dark and depressing poetry helps. :D

I call it "King of the Sky"

Quote:
Blue Skies and Evergreen Trees
A brave eagle spreads its proud wings

A fearless face adorned by a white crown
The King of the Sky is victory-bound

It leaves his nest bathed in blood and tears
The winged king thinks that nothing can be feared

But tragedy is the fate of all mighty kings,
and the flying king will one day lose his throne.

An arrow through the right wing
A bullet through the left wing
As the kingdom of dreams comes crashing down.

And as he weeps, and as he weeps
The other beasts come to him not to mourn

And as they feast, and as they feast
The King of the Sky reigns no more



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31 Dec 2018, 1:14 pm

anything that helps, is good. as long ofc as its not hurting other ppl xd i somewhat envy u. u can do some creation. this is grand.


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31 Dec 2018, 1:20 pm

serpentari wrote:
anything that helps, is good. as long ofc as its not hurting other ppl xd i somewhat envy u. u can do some creation. this is grand.

Thanks :D

My next poem will be about what the chicken symbolizes to me. Homey and Comfortable as she domestically warms her children in the nest and they accept their tormenting sacrifice to Hell's cooking fire without fight. But as weak as they seem the rooster still has his spurs and his voice.

I'll post it too once I finish it. :)



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31 Dec 2018, 1:30 pm

very exestential)))


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31 Dec 2018, 1:44 pm

Thanks. 8)

I'm still working on this in my head. :D

Homey and Comfey, Domestic and Cozey, the mother hen warms her eggs and watches her babies. As they accept their tormented fate, sacrificed to Hell's cooking fire, in the order to feed the invincible Gods, who in return provide them with food and shelter. But even the smallest rooster has his voice and his spurs.



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31 Dec 2018, 1:56 pm

Your statement about forgiveness is correct but too idealistic



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31 Dec 2018, 1:58 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Your statement about forgiveness is correct but too idealistic

How you like my poem? :D



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31 Dec 2018, 9:02 pm

Your poem is wonderfully written. The one you’re working on seems brave yet frightening.



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31 Dec 2018, 9:06 pm

AnneOleson wrote:
Your poem is wonderfully written. The one you’re working on seems brave yet frightening.

Thank you! :) I finished it today if you want to read?

"Village of Feathered Fools"

Quote:
Homey and Comfy
Domestic and Cozy
The motherly hen warms her eggs

On a throne of golden straw
Gently resting her gentle claws

Docile as the feathered queen lays
To her it feels safer this way

"Oh no! I lost my babies!"
"Lay more of them, maybe?"
"If not then the Gods might get very angry"

And what good is a single rooster?
Who crows to those who do not listen?
Even the smallest one has his beak and spurs!

"The Gods have no mercy!"
"Devouring us without pity!"
"No matter if we are feathers or furs!"

Calmly accepting a tormented fate
Being cooked in Hell's eternal fire
In exchange for food and shelter
For the false security that they most desire.