I feel very disillusioned about my country

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12 Mar 2019, 7:53 pm

And my issue is no longer about him, it's about the country as a whole.

Sure we have the freedom to complain about things, but nothing ever gets done to really fix them anymore and that really bothers me.

One of the things that really bothers me is our justice system. No matter how minor a crime you commit once you get sentence to prison you are ruined for life after you get released. You either end up back in prison or homeless because nobody will hire a person who has been to prison and the government will deny you assistance. There is no "paying your debt to society" in our country, and it's also very unfair that if you are rich or have the right connections you can stay out of prison even if you really deserve to be there.

Also there's the fact that even after death row inmates are proven innocent by DNA testing many of them still nevee get released because it can't be admitted as new evidence.

One of the many issues that has me disillusioned. :(



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12 Mar 2019, 7:54 pm

Trump is just a name in this context.

I'd like to explore New Zealand some day.



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12 Mar 2019, 7:58 pm

Go south island kraftie to get the best experience like mountains and nature

Dont spend all your time in auckland. We cant compete with cities around the world

Though wellington has a great energy and charm



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12 Mar 2019, 8:00 pm

Yeah...I like Coca-Cola ladies in Victorian dresses, too.

Yeah....I agree with what you say. I've thought about similar things.

But this sort of thing happens in ALL countries. NO country is a panacea.

If one goes to one of the "worst" countries in the world, one notices that people do the best they can with what they got. They don't get hot under the collar about things. They think sensibly about surviving.

I guess it's sometimes good to get angry so you'll feel like doing something about injustice. But people aren't going to want to work with you if all you are is angry.

If people jump down people's throats all the time, nothing will get done. There has to be anger----but there also has to be perspective, too.



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12 Mar 2019, 8:07 pm

I would say we're a good country fundamentally.....but that there are aspects of the US which suck. Of course there is.

We are, at least, somewhat fortunate in that we have the ability to effect change. And we don't have to have a revolution to do so. We can write our Congressman. We can express ourselves over the Internet. We can meet like-minded people and seek to take action.

Anger can be constructive....and can be destructive. Thurgood Marshall channeled his anger into being a driving force behind the 1954 Desegregation decision. Martin Luther King had anger----but he knew how to use it smartly. Malcolm X, more blatantly angry, didn't succeed as well.

It would be absolutely disastrous if we had a revolution.



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12 Mar 2019, 8:09 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Yeah...I like Coca-Cola ladies in Victorian dresses, too.

Yeah....I agree with what you say. I've thought about similar things.

But this sort of thing happens in ALL countries. NO country is a panacea.

If one goes to one of the "worst" countries in the world, one notices that people do the best they can with what they got. They don't get hot under the collar about things. They think sensibly about surviving.

I guess it's sometimes good to get angry so you'll feel like doing something about injustice. But people aren't going to want to work with you if all you are is angry.

If people jump down people's throats all the time, nothing will get done. There has to be anger----but there also has to be perspective, too.


You make a very good point. :)

Maybe I should aspire to be more like Margaery Tyrell and choose my words carefully.



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12 Mar 2019, 8:41 pm

I hate this show but I liked Margaery. :queen:



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12 Mar 2019, 9:09 pm

Like Cousin Magda the communist from The Golden Girls said: "These slurpees are best thing about America!"

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Me I like Coke Slurpees. :mrgreen:



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12 Mar 2019, 10:54 pm

I like cherry.



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13 Mar 2019, 12:51 am

hey twiz) havent seen u in a while ^^
sooo, ukno, like kraft here said, there are no ideal countries.
and the bigger the country, the more mess in it


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13 Mar 2019, 3:09 am

TW1ZTY wrote:
The entire USA sucks to me. I wish I could move. :(


Well know that you are not alone with those feelings...but I am holding out the hope that things might be able to improve. Not sure I'm ready to give up on the U.S.A quite yet but the thought of trying to seek other countries has occured to me.

Also kind of depressing, seems a lot of Metal bands find it difficult to come to the U.S, well I am kind of a metalhead so I hate seeing bands I would want to see being you know....discouraged from touring here. Just so happens a good majority of bands I listen to are not from the U.S.


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13 Mar 2019, 7:36 am

At least I can distract myself with The Golden Girls. No matter how bad things get in the world they always cheer me up. :heart:



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13 Mar 2019, 8:08 am

That’s exactly what people during the Depression did: distract themselves through radio shows and movies.



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13 Mar 2019, 8:14 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
That’s exactly what people during the Depression did: distract themselves through radio shows and movies.

I know. Too bad the entertainment back then was so much better than the crap we get nowadays. :|



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13 Mar 2019, 8:20 am

I prefer the “retro” channels myself.



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13 Mar 2019, 8:22 am

I mean even the "bad" entertainment was better that mediocre stuff we get from Hollywood now.

But then again I seem to hate movies and shows that everybody else loves and I like stuff nobody watches anymore so who am I to talk? :mrgreen: