Page 2 of 12 [ 186 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 12  Next

Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,953
Location:      

09 Sep 2019, 3:14 pm

Darmok wrote:
magz wrote:
People don't control their emotions, they control their actions was the very first relevant part of psychology I've learned!
But surely much human philosophy over the last 3000 years says you do/can indeed control your emotions, and is devoted to teaching/helping people to do just that. No?
Everyone is responsible for his/her own emotions and actions, and no one else's.  Controlling one's actions is the first step toward controlling one's emotions.  This is implicitly taught in military basic training.


_________________
The mere fact that science may not yet adequately explain an object, event, or experience does not mean the immediate explanation should automatically default to a conspiratorial, extraterrestrial, paranormal, or supernatural cause.


Darmok
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,030
Location: New England

09 Sep 2019, 3:19 pm

An overlapping phenomenon is Munchausen Syndrome, which is not an addiction to suffering per se, but to the positive attention once receives when suffering. People claim to be sick or otherwise disabled in order to manipulate people into caring for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitiou ... ed_on_self

There's even a specific Internet version that's been written about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_by_Internet

Munchausen by Internet is a pattern of behavior akin to Munchausen syndrome (renamed factitious disorder imposed on self), a psychiatric disorder, wherein those affected feign disease, illness, or psychological trauma to draw attention, sympathy, or reassurance to themselves. In Munchausen by Internet, users seek attention by feigning illnesses in online venues such as chat rooms, message boards, and Internet Relay Chat (IRC).


_________________
 
There Are Four Lights!


Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,953
Location:      

09 Sep 2019, 3:22 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
One of the things I've learned in my time as an adult is that some people really do enjoy being miserable. I don't see it as being "addicted to suffering" so much as being addicted to negativity and drama.
Maybe some hormonal or endorphic component ... ?  I know people who seem to be addicted to adrenaline, while others seem to be addicted to oxytocin.  Thus, it only seems reasonable that someone might be addicted to whatever hormones induce aggression or depression.  An article on such research would make for interesting reading.  Then again, it might only produce more "I'm an addict, so I can't help myself" excuses.

:roll: "... not guilty by reason of oxytocin-induced pleasure ..."


_________________
The mere fact that science may not yet adequately explain an object, event, or experience does not mean the immediate explanation should automatically default to a conspiratorial, extraterrestrial, paranormal, or supernatural cause.


cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

09 Sep 2019, 3:30 pm

I think this just adds another layer of segregation between people who feel sh***y & people who fancy themselves sane, exalted normal people.


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen:


cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

09 Sep 2019, 3:44 pm

Maybe instead of typecasting depressed people as addicts, you could recognize addiction as a disease & not a nasty habit.


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen:


cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

09 Sep 2019, 3:45 pm

I think a lot of people in this thread are dehumanizing a group they clearly don't associate with or necessarily know at all.


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen:


shortfatbalduglyman
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Mar 2017
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,572

09 Sep 2019, 7:16 pm

Masochism

Apathy



cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

09 Sep 2019, 8:30 pm

Not exactly.


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen:


cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

09 Sep 2019, 8:32 pm

I don't fit in the moderators' little boxes, except for EZ & Ferris. This makes me want to leave.

Raise your hand if you're arrogant enough to automatically understand your neighbor's emotions.


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen:


Moretto
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 7 Sep 2019
Age: 47
Gender: Female
Posts: 105
Location: 01 Oakes Vetoh Lemala, Zeydin Seetznin, Hanow, Cassonie

09 Sep 2019, 8:34 pm

Every last one of these is true for me

Image


_________________
"You think your pain and your heartbreak are unprecedented in the history of the world, but then you read. It was books that taught me that the things that tormented me most were the very things that connected me with all the people who were alive, who had ever been alive." - Baldwin


cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

09 Sep 2019, 9:01 pm

In retrospect, thread is disgusting.

Reported the lot of you. Bleh. How the !"£$%^&*()_ does Alex choose his moderators anymore?


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen:


Edna3362
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 29 Oct 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,727
Location: ᜆᜄᜎᜓᜄ᜔

09 Sep 2019, 9:43 pm

Addicted to suffering is no different from the fear of breaking from any cycles at it's core.
Even if the cycle isn't 'suffering' nor it seem like an 'addiction' -- heck even if said cycles had little to do with an individual's actions, thoughts or emotions.


How can one break from the cycle... If they would rather feel despite their expressions?
If they justify it? If they perpetuate it? :|


I don't think telling anyone to stop feeling what they're feeling isn't the key here. :lol: Nor do 'enable' it. Nor do judge them for it... Nor to simply tell to 'ignore' and bury it. It's a tricky puzzle, see?
As much as most who do would rather beat them up, or themselves if they got into the pit themselves.


_________________
Gained Number Post Count (1).
Lose Time (n).

Lose more time here - Updates at least once a week.


cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

09 Sep 2019, 9:44 pm

None of you addiction theorists get it.

Makes me want to slam my head into a wall, but then you would never have the quality code you always demand.


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen:


cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

09 Sep 2019, 9:46 pm

Let me put it this way, your theory has not replaced drugs & alcohol yet. I'll let you know if you get there.


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen:


cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

09 Sep 2019, 9:56 pm

I'm feeling great sitting alone, drunk listening to death metal all night with my hashish vape, no thanks to you negative nancies.

Deal with it.


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen:


cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

09 Sep 2019, 9:58 pm

It's a free country. :jester:


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen: