What if they never find a vaccine for COVID-19?

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28 May 2020, 12:19 am

I was gonna make my own post about this, but I'll just say it all here and add on to what Joe said:

Even though a lot of places are opening back up that I am excited about, I'm starting to think more about the things that those places have to do, and I wonder if there's gonna be any significant changes that we will have to live with for the rest of our lives.

What if going sporting events, concerts, etc. will never be the same?

Will going to the movie theater ever be the same?

Will going to a grocery or retail store, whether you're shopping or working there, ever be the same?

Will teachers have to disinfect every seat and table between every class?

Will lifeguards have to disinfect the seats before they go to their next station?

Will movie theater workers have to disinfect every seat between every screening?

Will everyone with a job have to take their temps before every one of their shifts?

I could go on and on. Basically, I've been told that there will be some aspects of life that will change permanently, like the impact of 9/11. But the only thing that affects our daily lives is that it takes longer to get thru the airport. I get the sense that the quantity of things that will change will be more than that.

And I know there may not be any use in asking this question but if life will go back to normal almost as if this never happened HOW MANY FREAKING MONTHS/YEARS WILL THAT BE!?!?!?!


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28 May 2020, 4:53 am

Disinfecting everything will create its own issues, because nobody will get immune to anything and the viruses and germs that we are immune to will suddenly become unfamiliar to our immune systems. Children need to come into contact with viruses in order to build up an immunity, and that ain't going to happen if they are kept inside, unable to socialise and having everything disinfected.

Yes, airports did drastically change since 9/11, which is why I tend to avoid airports, because all the rules make me anxious. Now it's going to be all the same in stores.


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28 May 2020, 5:32 pm

Joe90 wrote:
Disinfecting everything will create its own issues, because nobody will get immune to anything and the viruses and germs that we are immune to will suddenly become unfamiliar to our immune systems. Children need to come into contact with viruses in order to build up an immunity, and that ain't going to happen if they are kept inside, unable to socialise and having everything disinfected.

Yes, airports did drastically change since 9/11, which is why I tend to avoid airports, because all the rules make me anxious. Now it's going to be all the same in stores.
that contradicts some of what you said in the OP.


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28 May 2020, 7:04 pm

CubsBullsBears wrote:
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Disinfecting everything will create its own issues, because nobody will get immune to anything and the viruses and germs that we are immune to will suddenly become unfamiliar to our immune systems. Children need to come into contact with viruses in order to build up an immunity, and that ain't going to happen if they are kept inside, unable to socialise and having everything disinfected.

Yes, airports did drastically change since 9/11, which is why I tend to avoid airports, because all the rules make me anxious. Now it's going to be all the same in stores.
that contradicts some of what you said in the OP.


I couldn't see what contradicted what.


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28 May 2020, 8:55 pm

I mean, you were stating in the second paragraph in the OP that we won’t be able to do certain things anymore, and then you say that people will have to start shaking hands And going to concerts and stuff again to build immunity.


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29 May 2020, 2:11 am

CubsBullsBears wrote:
I mean, you were stating in the second paragraph in the OP that we won’t be able to do certain things anymore, and then you say that people will have to start shaking hands And going to concerts and stuff again to build immunity.


I don't see the contradiction in that. I'm not the one who makes the rules. I'm just saying that the government aren't going to let anyone do anything any more, but people SHOULD be able to do these things because of being able to expose ourselves to all the germs and viruses out there to help our immune systems thrive. We are actually doing more damage than good by hiding away from each other forever.


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29 May 2020, 4:50 am

Joe90 wrote:
CubsBullsBears wrote:
I mean, you were stating in the second paragraph in the OP that we won’t be able to do certain things anymore, and then you say that people will have to start shaking hands And going to concerts and stuff again to build immunity.


I don't see the contradiction in that. I'm not the one who makes the rules. I'm just saying that the government aren't going to let anyone do anything any more, but people SHOULD be able to do these things because of being able to expose ourselves to all the germs and viruses out there to help our immune systems thrive. We are actually doing more damage than good by hiding away from each other forever.
Oh, ok. I understand now. I totally agree.


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29 May 2020, 5:15 am

I just saw the dentist and they were wearing N95s and full face masks. I also had to use my cell phone to talk to the office staff instead of talking to them face to face. I think things will change as we learn more about the virus. Who knows, we may learn to treatment methods so that it is no deadlier than the flu. But, it takes time to study and learn about stuff. And, more importantly, start funding those who want to study and learn about diseases. All of them. Not just stuff that concerns "first world citizens."



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29 May 2020, 5:47 am

I was at a dentist today, too, with my daughter.
First thing, we were directed to hand sanitizer. Then I signed a declaration about (not) testing positive, having symptoms, meeting people with symptoms, meeting people who tested positive, meeting officially quarantined people, etc. during last two weeks. I did have symptoms but it ended over 4 weeks ago, so okay, I signed with my conscience clear, whatever it was, I'm not spreading it now.
I was wearing my cotton face mask all the time, it was obvious to me, my daughter was the patient. The dentist wore just a regular surgical mask, her assistant wore a surgical mask and... I don't know English expression for it but it's quite popular where I live:
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Also, both wore caps on their hair.
Otherwise, the dentist works normally.

I guess it might become commonly expected to wash or sanitize your hands when entering any place.


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29 May 2020, 6:50 am

^ I’d call that a visor :D
Although that word could call up misleading images of medieval knights...

I’m now back working: but only doing two hour sessions and returning home for the toilet between each one (that way I don’t have to enter anyone else’s house :wink: )



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29 May 2020, 7:07 am

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^ I’d call that a visor :D
Although that word could call up misleading images of medieval knights...

The Polish word "przyłbica" used for it is exactly the name for the visor part of a medieval helmet.

Here, they were in use among medical staff before, like, my husband recalls a doctor putting in on really quickly after identifying herpes in his mouth.
I understand, they protect the medic from possibility of a patient sneezing (or otherwise spraying) them in the face.


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29 May 2020, 7:15 am

magz wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
^ I’d call that a visor :D
Although that word could call up misleading images of medieval knights...

The Polish word "przyłbica" used for it is exactly the name for the visor part of a medieval helmet.

Here, they were in use among medical staff before, like, my husband recalls a doctor putting in on really quickly after identifying herpes in his mouth.
I understand, they protect the medic from possibility of a patient sneezing (or otherwise spraying) them in the face.
Never seen a medical professional using one: but the contractors who deliver the boxes of currency to bank branches wear them.
How does one pronounce the l with a slash through it btw? I’ve been wondering on and off for a while...



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29 May 2020, 7:21 am

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How does one pronounce the l with a slash through it btw? I’ve been wondering on and off for a while...

Like "w" in most English words.


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29 May 2020, 7:27 am

magz wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
How does one pronounce the l with a slash through it btw? I’ve been wondering on and off for a while...

Like "w" in most English words.

Oh
Haha... wasn’t expecting that! :lol:
Thanks :)
I think I’m going to have fun all afternoon trying out the mouth movements for that word :D



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29 May 2020, 7:30 am

Karamazov wrote:
magz wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
How does one pronounce the l with a slash through it btw? I’ve been wondering on and off for a while...

Like "w" in most English words.

Oh
Haha... wasn’t expecting that! :lol:
Thanks :)
I think I’m going to have fun all afternoon trying out the mouth movements for that word :D

"rz" after "p" is pronounced "sh".
"y" is something more like "i" but deeper towards throat.
"c" is closest to "ts".
Good luck!


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29 May 2020, 7:40 am

magz wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
magz wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
How does one pronounce the l with a slash through it btw? I’ve been wondering on and off for a while...

Like "w" in most English words.

Oh
Haha... wasn’t expecting that! :lol:
Thanks :)
I think I’m going to have fun all afternoon trying out the mouth movements for that word :D

"rz" after "p" is pronounced "sh".
"y" is something more like "i" but deeper.
"c" is closest to "ts".
Good luck!

Cheers :D
I think I’m going to enjoy this!