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25 May 2021, 4:15 am

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It's been a long time since I've posted on WP and things seem to keep getting worse. The more I try to help myself, the worse my life becomes. People here on WP are very kind and supportive so I thought I'd come back but I fear that the only way out of my extreme emotional pain is to find the "right planet".
I have been dealing with anxiety, depression and loneliness most of my life. Therapists and medications haven't helped at all. I used to be able to just muddle through but recently I have been coming very close to having a pure mental and physical breakdown. I can't even take the smallest amount of pressure and i am exhausted all of the time. I was already in a fragile state when I went to return a phone call from a long time friend who is also very depressed and when she heard my voice, she actually groaned! She has been a good friend for many years but constantly lies about not being able to talk because she is "on her way out the door". Really- 90% of the time I just happen to call right when she's leaving?! ! ! I was so hurt and angry that I just hung up and will not call her again. I have not returned the calls she made after I hung up. I bring this up because I don't have many friends and it is very upsetting that I had to be treated that way when I have never done anything like that to her. Then I started realizing that I have no good options. I can either accept that treatment and have a friend or I can have my self respect and lose one of the few friends I do have.
As far as work goes, I am a veterinarian and get negative feedback from clients because I act different than what they expect-despite being a very good veterinarian for their pet.
I just don't see the point in trying anymore when all I get is pain from other people.
I know nobody can give me any answers as to what to do but if there is ANY advice at all regarding how to deal with a horrific, NT world, then that may help me a bit.
I'm sorry to be so negative but I'm just trying to be honest.
Usually I just want to die in my sleep and go to Heaven and be with my precious cats who have passed.

Thanks for listening.


I'm similar over here. My advice is to focus on your job. As time goes on, you will get better at managing how people perceive you at work and learn what makes people happy/unhappy. I am sure you have learned some lessons in working with the customers already. I am sure some people have the acumen to realize you are good for their pets.



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25 May 2021, 1:47 pm

I do feel exhausted from attempting to act "normal" and am losing touch with the real me.
As I said in my earlier post, there are no good options. You either have to be someone you aren't (and even that usually isn't good enough), or you get negative feedback, pain and isolation from other people.



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25 May 2021, 2:27 pm

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I do feel exhausted from attempting to act "normal" and am losing touch with the real me.
As I said in my earlier post, there are no good options. You either have to be someone you aren't (and even that usually isn't good enough), or you get negative feedback, pain and isolation from other people.

It seemed like that to me a few years ago but I've learned other ways of coping since then. It was amazing when I learned that sometimes forcing others to accept me the way I am works better than trying to please them - but I needed to learn to accept conflicts and bad feedback as a part of life.

Trying to appear normal all the time might be the reason why therapy didn't help you - you probably tried to give the correct answers instead of the true ones. It's just the way masking people automatically do all the time - including therapy, which renders it useless.

I've been in a similar place. I went a long way from there. Learning to know and accept the real you is necessary, even if it means a difficult transitional time when you give up your old coping strategies and haven't developed new ones yet.
But you're intelligent so you can do it.

It's important what you feel. Your feelings are alarm bells for your needs. Sometimes the bell is overwhelming so you just want to cut it off - and sometimes you hear the bell and have no idea what it means - but over time, you can learn the meaning of your feelings and this will lead you to proper care for whatever parts of yourself you're currently neglecting.


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25 May 2021, 2:43 pm

newme wrote:
I do feel exhausted from attempting to act "normal" and am losing touch with the real me.
As I said in my earlier post, there are no good options. You either have to be someone you aren't (and even that usually isn't good enough), or you get negative feedback, pain and isolation from other people.


While I was traveling I noticed very often people act much more friendly and forgiving when they know you are a foreigner or it's obvious from your appearance that you are from a different culture and not supposed to act "normal", know all the unwritten rules. People are more annoyed when you look "normal", but don't act like one.

Since then I stopped trying to "blend in" completely and allow myself to look a little eccentric, on a "friendly weirdo/nerd" side. When I identify myself as an ultimate nerd upfront, people expect me to act like one, it doesn't annoy them as much.



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25 May 2021, 2:46 pm

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newme wrote:
I do feel exhausted from attempting to act "normal" and am losing touch with the real me.
As I said in my earlier post, there are no good options. You either have to be someone you aren't (and even that usually isn't good enough), or you get negative feedback, pain and isolation from other people.


While I was traveling I noticed very often people act much more friendly and forgiving when they know you are a foreigner or it's obvious from your appearance that you are from a different culture and not supposed to act "normal", know all the unwritten rules. People are more annoyed when you look "normal", but don't act like one.

Since then I stopped trying to "blend in" completely and allow myself to look a little eccentric, on a "friendly weirdo/nerd" side. When I identify myself as an ultimate nerd upfront, people expect me to act like one, it doesn't annoy them as much.

Indeed, giving up trying to look like I think a woman my age is supposed to look and adopting overly nerdy style helped me as well :) People react less offended when I randomly act weird when I also look a bit weird.


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25 May 2021, 6:24 pm

newme wrote:
As far as work goes, I am a veterinarian and get negative feedback from clients because I act different than what they expect-despite being a very good veterinarian for their pet.
I just don't see the point in trying anymore when all I get is pain from other people.


I wanted to be a veterinarian, also, but I wouldn't have been able to cope.

I suggest you focus on relieving the suffering of animals.
That is a profound reason for involving yourself in this life system.

Animals are better than people, btw. ;)



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26 May 2021, 11:40 am

Thanks again for all of the replies. It is very interesting, and helpful, to hear many of you say that it helps to actually have NTs see us as being different right from the start.
I will definitely adopt this approach and see how it works.
I really can't believe anyone would say that Aspies etc. are "cold". All of the comments I've ever gotten from people on this site have been have been very kind and compassionate as well as helpful. It's NTs who I believe are "cold" and lack empathy.
Sending support and compassion to all of you!
Please PM if you want more support from me.



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26 May 2021, 3:59 pm

newme wrote:
Thanks again for all of the replies. It is very interesting, and helpful, to hear many of you say that it helps to actually have NTs see us as being different right from the start.
I will definitely adopt this approach and see how it works.


This might be a weird suggestion, but do your clients know that you are autistic? I'm thinking that my vets and many other doctors, have little biography things on their website. It normally says where they went to school and shows pictures of them with their pets. There's usually a little blurb about their interests and hobbies. I'm wondering if it would be helpful to mention it somewhere like this, if you have a website with a bio, and if you're comfortable? You could say "I'm proud to be an autistic veterinarian .... " (blah blah blah). I'd be really impressed if I read that on a website for my vet. Or maybe you could put in the interests section that you enjoy learning about autism, supporting autistic helplines, etc. ? Just a thought. If your clients don't know maybe this would help them to understand why you perhaps seem a little different.

I'm just thinking of the lawyer who wrote my Will. He sends a Holiday greeting letter to all the clients once a year in December, with an update of his life. His daughter is actually a vet, so he's often written about her advancing education / career and he always mentions that he's donating to certain charities for the holidays - usually animal sanctuaries or animal rights groups. Something like that might be an opportunity to say "I'm continuing my support of autism advocacy for adults, as well as .... (whatever)".

I didn't know I was autistic during my career but I was definitely different than the other women. If I had known, I'm pretty sure I would have done something like above ^ to break the ice, and help people to understand why I might give an unexpected vibe. Everyone has different opinions on disclosure but this is just a thought. Perhaps some of the people would open up to you about autistic kids / adults in their own families, and it could improve the dialogue / relationships a little? Again - just a thought. Only you know what's right or comfortable in your situation.

Sending more hugs.


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