I don't want my third vaccine

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You are lucky you live in a country that wants everyone to get their 3rd shot this year. It's been more than 6 months since my second dose, as has it been for older family members, and we would all leap at the chance to take it today if we could! My family will be eligible in the near future, but I won't be until next year, by the looks of it. I envy those who have already gotten theirs, or have been given the option. I wish it was us!
I want every booster needed until this pandemic is done.

That'd be an unlimited amount of boosters barring extreme luck. It's going nowhere. SARS-CoV-2 has joined its similarly human adapted endemic common cold causing cousins NL63, 229E, OC43 and HKU1. Even if there was no...forced evolution that speeds up antigenic drift via immunocompromised hosts, it's impossible to vaccinate or natural infection out of a coronavirus, just like the others above. It might lose a little severity every decade or so, but it's looking quite human adapted as is, so I doubt it'll lose much (it doesn't need to hide from the host immune response, as it does it more than good enough now). Since its R0 is stupid for a coronavirus, there's effectively no seasons either for most of the world.

The lucky thing is that it's overall mild comparatively speaking (there'd be a good reason for why that is).

Yip it's going nowhere so people need to be left alone and not feel bullied or pressured into fighting an unwinnable fight.

The more vaccinations you have - the more likely your chance of an adverse reaction.

It's like throwing dice into a roulette wheel where every slice of the wheel is an adverse reaction possibility.

The more dice in there, the more chances you have of running into something you didn't bargain for.

I'm not being literal here of course - there would be thousands of slices of the roulette wheel for the chance of an adverse reaction.

But that's how it works generally.

Hi Joe.
I've just been through covid for the past 10 days or so. This seems to be the Omicron variant and it's spreading like crazy here. Everyone will have it by Xmas.
Just to let you know....in my circles the people who have had a recent booster are coping much better with it and have very mild symptoms. Otherwise it has been like flu thats has dragged on.

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	Can we please have less of the anti-vaxx narrative - it's not helping to reassure the OP and neither does it seem to be based firmly in reality. It's also not in the spirit of The Haven. Joe90, ThisTimelessMoment provides some useful first-hand information and although this following BBC article is simplified, I hope it also provides some reassurance. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59639973

I believe the moderator is using his own bias in this case to prevent information being discussed. Some of us are scared of the booster jab, and rightly so as it is an unknown, and the heavy tactics that other countries are using to force vaccinations on others - I believe just in this case that this vaccine mandate needs to be discussed. I don't believe Joe is being paranoid in this case.

Also, the BBC has been heavily biased in recent years and it is not a good source.

It you have issues with the vaccines then create a thread somewhere else to discuss it.

This is not the thread in which to discuss such things.

I thought Joe was discussing it. She was saying how people around her were guilt-tripping her into it.

That's enough now.
Open a thread somewhere else if you want to pick over anti-vaccine commentary.

Agreeing with the premise that there's some sort of evil/undemocratic plot afoot to "force" people into accepting "untested" vaccines and discussing it here is not going to help reassure Joe90.

I don't mind getting some side effects that just last a day or two. But I find the thought of being ill for 3 weeks with side effects off-putting. I don't think side effects from a vaccine should be that intense. And after hearing about my boyfriend's niece's friend being hospitalised from immediate effects of the third vaccine, it's making me really anxious. What if it happens to me? He was in hospital for 3 days and now he's got lung damage and requires an oxygen mask a lot. Doctors don't know yet if it will be permanent, but it is scary. He has no history of any autoimmune diseases or lung conditions like asthma or bronchitis. He only had his third vaccine because he works in a nursing home so was offered it. He was a perfectly fit and healthy man in his 30s.

I think 3 months between the second vaccine and the third vaccine is too soon. People should be recommended to wait 5-6 months between the vaccines.

I think having a strong immune system plus two doses of the vaccination plus the third vaccine too soon equals an overdose of immunity and can be more dangerous than the virus itself. I have a strong immune system so I have a feeling I might react badly to the third vaccine. I don't want to suddenly become physically disabled with something I've never had before. Life's already depressing enough with this brain disorder I'm cursed with.

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I'm having my booster tomorrow so I'll let you know how it goes.

Joe, it's anecdotal, but if it helps any - I've had the first and second doses of AstraZeneca, followed by the booster which was the Pfizer one.
Absolutely no issues at all, and I think you'll find that's what happened with the overwhelming majority.

It's only natural to be scared by comments that do nothing but point out all the horrible things that could happen - but very, very rarely do happen.

As for your immune system, it either has some degree of immunity to a virus or it doesn't. You can't have an overdose of immunity.
But the point is that the vaccines grant some degree of immunity which you didn't previously have, and although this immunity reduces over time as the inevitable mutations appear (one reason why the yearly flu jab is constantly evolving) - they still greatly reduce the effects of covid if caught.

If it helps at all Joe, it looks like the booster jabs will be exclusively Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines. So if you had Astrazeneca for the first two as most Brits did, it'll at least be something a bit different. I'm not sure if that will ease your mind or just add more doubt - personally I feel a little better about it.

I've decided to have mine and I'm having it tomorrow.

I had the AZ for my first two and I was really anxious about it. But I do also feel better about getting the Pfizer or moderna one.

I had the Pfizer for my first two.