Please no more lockdowns

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I just laughed like a wild animal from the title alone.

If lockdowns worked then 150,000 people wouldn't have died. Most of those died during lockdowns. And businesses failing can lead to poverty. The main reason I'm getting my vaccines is because I'm dead against lockdown. It's going to be a sh***y Christmas anyway this year, and to end the holidays straight into lockdown just sucks. Besides, two weeks of lockdown isn't going to make any difference to the spread. You know how quickly two weeks go by. And if he's thinking of extending lockdown for months....when we've got vaccinations....then he's got another think coming, because I can see riots happening. People don't want to be controlled any more by a virus we're lucky enough to have vaccines for.

I'm paranoid about the virus but I still don't agree with lockdown. It should be every man for himself now. To protect myself and others I'm going to get my third vaccine for a start. I'm not going to any large social gatherings at the moment and I wear a face mask whenever I'm out. And why should we all have our freedom taken away just because of a few anti-vaxxers? It's like when you were at school that one kid disrupted the class and you all had to stay inside during recess instead of going out to play. The government should give out covid passports then and those that don't want the vaccines can just have their freedom taken away until they decide otherwise. It may cause an uproar but it's better than lockdown. Personally I think lockdowns are a waste of time.

Lockdowns keep on having to be done because of addle brained anti vax types who selfishly believe their individual rights trump other people's health and well being. Added to that is a government that prefers to do what protects their vote share rather than what's best for the nation as a whole.

I doubt the Omicron updated vaccines will prove of use with how quickly this surge is going. It seems like a waste of resources to me.



The concern with the Omicron variant is that it is MUCH more infectious. From the data we are seeing now, it is ~3-5x more infectious than the delta variant. It “multiplies 70 times faster than the Delta variant and original SARS-CoV-2 in the human bronchus, which may explain why Omicron may transmit faster between humans than previous variants". To put it into perspective, it went from around 16% of the cases detected in the US to the dominant strain (over 60% of cases detected) within a span of 3 days.

The bright side of this is that IF this is truly a milder variant, it may displace the more dangerous Delta variant and provide ACTUAL herd immunity (meaning it could just become another endemic "cold" virus). It would be unwise to say that it is milder this early on in the surge though. Data coming out of South Africa may not completely apply to the UK or the US (due to many factors). So far, the UK data is looking similar, however.

Most experts are convinced that EVERYONE will have been exposed to the Omicron variant by spring. The mandates and precautions being put in place are a smart move. Many countries already have a strain on their healthcare systems from the Delta variant. With how fast Omicron is spreading/replicating, it could potentially cripple them even further (although South Africa data does not point to this at the moment).

Also, keep this in mind:
If EVERYONE gets Omicron at the same time (and we do not slow it down with preventative measures), society will cease to function due to forced quarantines/self-isolation (usually 10 days per person).

The thing is, they do work as we have seen the cases fall when the government puts them in place, but they always lift them to early. New Zealand was a good example of them working but I think recent strains complicated things. It was projected that without those measures 1 million people would have died. I'm really sorry this is so upsetting for you as you seem to be doing all the right stuff. Unfortunately it only takes a decent percentage, even if they are a minority, of people to mess everything up. They don't even necessarily even have to be in your own country sadly. I hope things get better for you.

Yeeeeah we just got another partial lockdown.. all NYE events are cancelled - so the Bryan Adams concert I was going to go to is not happening. All bars/clubs are closed. Gyms are closed. Restaurants are still open. They're asking ppl to limit Christmas gatherings to 10 people or 2 households etc blah blah. Some of the measures make sense, others don't, people are getting annoyed. I just got my Moderna booster today. I'm pro science and vaccine but Also getting tired of the various restrictions that I expected would be lifted by now vs. getting stronger again.. especially since we have one of the highest vaccination rates in the country. But nooo, not good enough yet I guess. My more politically conservative leaning friend is super over restrictions and pissed off his brother in law's gym has to close - again - and I get it.. buuut Doctors and Public Health officials advise on what's best for health, not for business. Businesses losing money and closing are just unintentional collateral damage.

I heard these third jabs are effective against the virus and it also said on the news that less people are hospitalised from the omicron version. So there is no need for lockdown.

Everyone’s irritated by it, but I’m leaving the decisions in the hands of the experts. My assumption is they’re doing the best they can for public health. They’re not concerned with parties or concerts or jobs or small businesses - their jobs are to advise on how to minimize illness and death; that’s the extent of their scope.

I agree that mass gatherings should be banned for now, and that masks are mandatory in stores and social distancing and all that, but not shutting down the economy when we now have vaccines that appear to be working.

Lockdown is only to be used as a last resort if things get too catastrophic, like in March 2020. That's understandable; new virus, no vaccines, no revised restrictions, thousands of people dying each day, etc.

I think the original lockdown was more preventative than a last resort. But others may be necessary as some people (especially certain Americans) refuse to take precautions. You can argue our reliance on fictions like economy has helped perpetuate such a sickness.