25 Feb 2022, 1:42 am
25 Feb 2022, 2:02 am
Joe90 wrote:
I hope my thread about the war didn't scare you into making this thread. I'm sorry if it did...but I'm scared too. 
Like a child, I have lack of knowledge in this subject and my brain doesn't store information about complicated things like this, so the only other option is for me to panic and get other people to reassure me with empathy and true information that is easy to read and understand. I don't google anything these days as the internet is an excellent way of scaring oneself even more, and I'm too scared to watch the news. It was the same at the beginning of the covid pandemic, I found it hard watching the news without flying into a panic attack.
I remember having a day off school back in 2003 when the war with Iraq had started, because I was just blinded with severe anxiety and panic. My mum was an anxious person and sometimes unintentionally spread her fears on to me and was like "yep, it's gonna happen." I thought we were all going to die then but we didn't.
I do love the way children view the world. It reminds me of the movie The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas, where the little boy was so innocent but at the same time his innocence was what was right. He saw the Jews as people, not as "the evil enemy". Because Jews ARE people. The only evil enemy was Hitler. He was an evil monster.
Your thread had nothing to do with creating this one. I'm physically close to what's happening and I'm aware some epoch have just ended... but for now, I'm safe myself, just as you are.
Like a child, I have lack of knowledge in this subject and my brain doesn't store information about complicated things like this, so the only other option is for me to panic and get other people to reassure me with empathy and true information that is easy to read and understand. I don't google anything these days as the internet is an excellent way of scaring oneself even more, and I'm too scared to watch the news. It was the same at the beginning of the covid pandemic, I found it hard watching the news without flying into a panic attack. I remember having a day off school back in 2003 when the war with Iraq had started, because I was just blinded with severe anxiety and panic. My mum was an anxious person and sometimes unintentionally spread her fears on to me and was like "yep, it's gonna happen." I thought we were all going to die then but we didn't.
I do love the way children view the world. It reminds me of the movie The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas, where the little boy was so innocent but at the same time his innocence was what was right. He saw the Jews as people, not as "the evil enemy". Because Jews ARE people. The only evil enemy was Hitler. He was an evil monster.
25 Feb 2022, 2:13 am
Pepe wrote:
blazingstar wrote:
I agree with Pepe; a break in mod duties is probably called for.
The advice to take care of yourself first, also sounds solid to me. You can’t take care of them until you care for yourself. If you are calm, they will take from that.
In general, I think it is better being straight with kids about what is going on, gearing it toward their level of understanding.
There is no hiding the ugliness and tragedy of war, especially when it’s on your doorstep.
The advice to take care of yourself first, also sounds solid to me. You can’t take care of them until you care for yourself. If you are calm, they will take from that.
In general, I think it is better being straight with kids about what is going on, gearing it toward their level of understanding.
There is no hiding the ugliness and tragedy of war, especially when it’s on your doorstep.
Agreed.
I am clueless in terms of giving parental advice.
Hence, I don't.
But I believe you're right, it's time to have a pause in duties requiring more sophisticated judgement.
It won't be over any soon. I know Ukrainians. Just as Poland fighting Nazi Germany didn't end with capitulation of Warsaw, even if Kiev falls and Putin succeeds in installing a puppet government, things will just enter resistance-sabotage-guerilla phase. Ukrainians are fighting for their right to identity, just as Poles did many times in our history.
25 Feb 2022, 2:17 am
25 Feb 2022, 2:20 am
magz wrote:
Pepe wrote:
blazingstar wrote:
I agree with Pepe; a break in mod duties is probably called for.
The advice to take care of yourself first, also sounds solid to me. You can’t take care of them until you care for yourself. If you are calm, they will take from that.
In general, I think it is better being straight with kids about what is going on, gearing it toward their level of understanding.
There is no hiding the ugliness and tragedy of war, especially when it’s on your doorstep.
The advice to take care of yourself first, also sounds solid to me. You can’t take care of them until you care for yourself. If you are calm, they will take from that.
In general, I think it is better being straight with kids about what is going on, gearing it toward their level of understanding.
There is no hiding the ugliness and tragedy of war, especially when it’s on your doorstep.
Agreed.
I am clueless in terms of giving parental advice.
Hence, I don't.
But I believe you're right, it's time to have a pause in duties requiring more sophisticated judgement.
It won't be over any soon. I know Ukrainians. Just as Poland fighting Nazi Germany didn't end with capitulation of Warsaw, even if Kiev falls and Putin succeeds in installing a puppet government, things will just enter resistance-sabotage-guerilla phase. Ukrainians are fighting for their right to identity, just as Poles did many times in our history.
It could be cathartic to vent your anger on spammers and trolls.
I am hearing more about how difficult it will be for pootin to hold onto Ukraine as a result of future resistance activities.
It is also good to see the demonstrations by Russian people protesting the actions of their psychopathic leader.
I couldn't do that. Kudos to them.
25 Feb 2022, 2:34 am
25 Feb 2022, 2:43 am
25 Feb 2022, 2:53 am
25 Feb 2022, 3:50 am
25 Feb 2022, 4:02 am
magz wrote:
Pepe wrote:
This is how it is going to pan out (remind me if I am wrong down the track.):
*pootin will subjugate Ukraine.
Probably.*pootin will subjugate Ukraine.
Pepe wrote:
*He will install a puppet government.
Very likely if the above comes true.Pepe wrote:
*He will see this as a major victory and be satisfied with the vast territorial buffer zone.
Nope. Resistance phase will start on Ukrainian side, while on Putin's side messing up with Russian minorities in Baltic States will start if he believes he succeeds.Pepe wrote:
*He won't attack *any* NATO country because that will mean all-out war with the West, something he will not want.
He will continue to try to destabilise NATO. Possibly declaring puppet republics inside Latvia and Estonia that would declare they leave NATO so annexing them wouldn't technically be an attack on NATO.His goal is to rebuild Russian empire. His last speech goes precisely along the old "Great Russia" narrative lines and 500 years of history of this narrative and actions connected to it are pretty coherent about it.
There's no line at which an empire is satisfied, only a line at which it stops when it can't spread further.
From the perspective of "Great Russia" narrative, Ukraine - a Ruthenian nation choosing other than Moscow - has no right to exist. But, guess what? Ukrainians see it very differently. Wonder why...
Time will tell.
I bet your left testicle that you are wrong regarding further incursions into other sovereign, presently NATO, countries.
25 Feb 2022, 4:05 am
25 Feb 2022, 4:05 am
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25 Feb 2022, 4:09 am
25 Feb 2022, 4:10 am
magz wrote:
Bet my left testicle on whatever you like.
What are the sakes?
What do I get if I am right?
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25 Feb 2022, 4:13 am
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