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SIXLUCY
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23 Jul 2008, 11:13 am

Dont you have any friends.



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23 Jul 2008, 11:14 am

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While there are some people who just don't get subtle cues or even obvious signals, either because they don't recognize them ( we should all get that) or won't acknowledge them, I believe in this case the phenomenon you experienced was primarily cultural.

If you're raised with the belief that all women are whores at heart born for breeding and servitude, therefore must be treated as slaves in order to keep them in check, when you find yourself in a Western society, where women are free to roam about on their own, it's a simple assumption that they're all wanton Jezebels just waiting to be picked up - after all, it's their nature. Any woman left unattended by her owner is public furniture.

I know that seems harsh by Western standards, but if such attitudes weren't a reality, nobody on Earth would be wearing a burka right now.


Not going to discredit your words but you forgot, it happens to guys too.

I think women are less afraid than back then (but still are espeacially regarding a family member) than a guy would be to speak out about it. I've heard in my anonymous meeting with men having similar things happen to them in their past. I'm sure it would embarass their manhood so to speak because in our culture men don't get raped and if they do, they're coined as "sissies" but replace that with the p and u. At least I've heard that coming from guys.

Although I'm sure there are much more women than men hit on in the most innappopriate ways since like you said it's in some ways culturally acceptable.


When I was 14 I was forced into sexual contact by a 16-year old girl. I still have scars on my arm where her fingernails cut into me.

I have also had girls come up to me and grab my ass and say dirty things to me. It's not comfortable.


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23 Jul 2008, 11:15 am

SIXLUCY wrote:
Dont you have any friends.


Not really.


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23 Jul 2008, 11:17 am

I felt compelled to stand up for some of the good hearted guys I know
I had friends who say women like that
I am not perfect-but I would never treat a woman like that
I have never dated or anything-I don't even talk to them in real life-not all men are perverted selfish pigs
some-like me, have a weird, shy view about it and just keep away from them all together
which is fine-I won't annoy them-better for them I'd say :roll:



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23 Jul 2008, 11:18 am

The only real difference between "flirting" and "harassment" is whether or not it's welcome by the recipient. Trying to flirt with girls can be very risky, because they're more likely to interpret it as harassment.



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23 Jul 2008, 11:20 am

Let's see, if a guy comes onto a woman, he's a sleaze. If he doesn't, then he's a wimp. I would have to decline, given this dismal set of choices! The same women who are quick to label men as "sleaze" might also complain a day later about how there aren't any "real men" who have the courage to approach them. Of course men who approach you have sex somewhere in their attention, even if it's only in the distant background. Odds are they already have friends and co-workers they can talk to about engines, computers, and other nonsexual items.

So, is there a third option? How do men get into marriages and relationships with women without being branded a sleaze?


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23 Jul 2008, 11:22 am

I was just wondering the same thing lol



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23 Jul 2008, 11:22 am

Trigger11 Not all women are nice.. I know but the fact is the mens prison are full of Paedophiles, women bashers and rapists
The womens prison however is full of women who have been sexually abused as children and most are drug addicts committed crimes to support there habit
I suprised in prison cause I seemed the only one there that didnt come in as a junkie.



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23 Jul 2008, 11:29 am

hey I am not denying a lot of men are sleazes-and a lot of them are
but not all of them are
I am not a sleaze
and I pride myself for not reducing myself to the level of other men
(and if it was my way anyone who rapped would be put to death)



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23 Jul 2008, 11:33 am

I have told this story before, but it seems relevant to this discussion.

My first night in the dorms at the University of Miami we had a party in my room. My roommate had come to the summer program and already knew people, so he invited them all over. There was this girl, Jennifer, who was from Iowa and she was quite attractive. Everyone was drinking, except me, because I don't drink alcohol. I can't stand the taste. Anyway, I had a pretty good time talking to Jennifer while she was sober. As the night wore on, she got pretty hammered. Several guys were trying to hit on her, and one even offered to take her back to his room. Her roommate and I decided we should help her get back to her room. We took her back to her room and helped her get into bed, which included taking off her outer layer of clothes at her request. She asked me to stay the night, but I declined. As attracted to her as I was, I felt I would have been taking advantage of her. The next morning, we ran into each other in the lobby of the dorm and she came up to me and slapped me. She said she was offended, because I didn't sleep with her. I was ridiculed by all the guys on my floor too for being a wuss. I was 17-years old and this was my introduction to the male-female relationship.


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23 Jul 2008, 11:37 am

Rapist dont get put to death. Not even paedophiles. One or two years jail, max 5.
It makes me sick and then screws put the young boys in protection so they are protected.
Paedophiles are in protection.
Screws are paedophiles.
They made me go into maxium with a paedophile woman. Who wasnt in protection area.
When I come in she kept trying to hang herself n got locked down in the suicide cell.
Ha Ha Ha the screws had there hands full there.
Ive caused or 'she's caused alot of trouble that one' heard em say
I love it I just love it.



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23 Jul 2008, 11:39 am

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23 Jul 2008, 11:39 am

Trigger11 wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Willard wrote:
While there are some people who just don't get subtle cues or even obvious signals, either because they don't recognize them ( we should all get that) or won't acknowledge them, I believe in this case the phenomenon you experienced was primarily cultural.

If you're raised with the belief that all women are whores at heart born for breeding and servitude, therefore must be treated as slaves in order to keep them in check, when you find yourself in a Western society, where women are free to roam about on their own, it's a simple assumption that they're all wanton Jezebels just waiting to be picked up - after all, it's their nature. Any woman left unattended by her owner is public furniture.

I know that seems harsh by Western standards, but if such attitudes weren't a reality, nobody on Earth would be wearing a burka right now.


Not going to discredit your words but you forgot, it happens to guys too.

I think women are less afraid than back then (but still are espeacially regarding a family member) than a guy would be to speak out about it. I've heard in my anonymous meeting with men having similar things happen to them in their past. I'm sure it would embarass their manhood so to speak because in our culture men don't get raped and if they do, they're coined as "sissies" but replace that with the p and u. At least I've heard that coming from guys.

Although I'm sure there are much more women than men hit on in the most innappopriate ways since like you said it's in some ways culturally acceptable.


When I was 14 I was forced into sexual contact by a 16-year old girl. I still have scars on my arm where her fingernails cut into me.

I have also had girls come up to me and grab my ass and say dirty things to me. It's not comfortable.


That's a pretty accurate description regarding the differences between flirting and unwanted harassment.


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23 Jul 2008, 11:41 am

Trigger11 wrote:
I have told this story before, but it seems relevant to this discussion.

My first night in the dorms at the University of Miami we had a party in my room. My roommate had come to the summer program and already knew people, so he invited them all over. There was this girl, Jennifer, who was from Iowa and she was quite attractive. Everyone was drinking, except me, because I don't drink alcohol. I can't stand the taste. Anyway, I had a pretty good time talking to Jennifer while she was sober. As the night wore on, she got pretty hammered. Several guys were trying to hit on her, and one even offered to take her back to his room. Her roommate and I decided we should help her get back to her room. We took her back to her room and helped her get into bed, which included taking off her outer layer of clothes at her request. She asked me to stay the night, but I declined. As attracted to her as I was, I felt I would have been taking advantage of her. The next morning, we ran into each other in the lobby of the dorm and she came up to me and slapped me. She said she was offended, because I didn't sleep with her. I was ridiculed by all the guys on my floor too for being a wuss. I was 17-years old and this was my introduction to the male-female relationship.


yeah I had a friend-she was 16-and wanted to have an affair with me-I was down with it for...I guess an hour before I finally was verbally b***h slapped by a friend of mine lol
it wasn't who I was so I said no
she blocked me and we haven't seen eachother since (that was a year ago)

and I take girls grabbing my bum (the very odd time they do) or hugging me-as a complement
lord knows it might be the only time-so I;d better enjoy it



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23 Jul 2008, 11:42 am

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I don't think sexually and have a limited sexual awareness for someone my age also i am told that because of my AS and young looks I come across as very vulnerable. Anyone else have similar problems.


You should be aware that if a man from a muslim country approaches you, it is almost always for sexual reasons. Any woman from a muslim country or with a muslim background would immediately become verbally aggressive towards that man and tell him that she is married (whether true or not).

A few girls from Holland went on holiday to Turkey some years ago and agreed to go touring in a remote area with two local guys they had met on the way. They were both raped, got their throats slit with a knife and were dumped for dead in a gully. One of the girls survived and the guys were caught (after a number of years) and got a few years in prison.
Western unmarried girls who travel alone are looked upon as prostitutes in muslim countries. I know because I have several Turkish friends who told me so and I have had the same experience in other muslim countries. It also depends on the way you dress.

Don't be naive and protect yourself.



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23 Jul 2008, 11:48 am

I protect myself very well.. Im not naive
I wonder.. are children :roll: