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Ms.Berg
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23 May 2018, 1:29 pm

I recognize what you describe Fifasy. It sounds a lot like what I`ve experienced earlier. I have also made the same conclusions regarding alcohol and socializing(alcohol a long time ago, socializing more recently) and it has worked well for me. I feel more stable and stronger now. And it feels good to spend more time on the things I really appreciate personally and to take care of myself instead of weakening myself by doing all the things I am really not made for anyway. Wishing you all the best! :)



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23 May 2018, 1:43 pm

Sorry to read what you've just been through, fifasy, and glad you're back on your feet.

I agree totally with what you said about alcohol - I nearly destroyed myself that way in my teens and twenties. I thought that alcohol was "magic sociability juice" (why not? Everyone else seemed to think so.) Before long, I was in a very bad place - raging meltdowns in the middle of clubs, waking up miles away in unfamiliar places after doing a runner, and yeah, when the depressive effects of the booze kicked in, feeling suicidally rejected. It's kind of hard to learn how to socialise better when you don't even remember what happened the night before!

People talk a lot about how alcohol lowers inhibition, so that you can "let your guard down". I think that yes it does, but when the barriers are down, too much of the outside world can get into my head, until I just can't handle it. I need a bit of a bubble between me and the world to be able to cope with it, and I need enough self-control that I can at least try to tippy-toe around the obstacles that my autism sticks in the way. The autistic traits that make socialising hard for me just seem to come to the surface even more when I'm drunk, even if I don't realise it at the time.

Joining some special interest groups sounds like a good idea. My best friends are the people who are glad to see me when they do, but don't expect more than I can manage - partly from explaining my autistic traits to them, but mostly because that's just the kind of people that they are. I've found the level of socialising that I can cope with, and some people and shared activities which fit that - that's been a big improvement for me compared to switching between party-animal and being a hermit all the time.


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23 May 2018, 3:26 pm

elsapelsa wrote:
fifasy wrote:
neilson_wheels wrote:
How are you?


I seem okay at the moment. Thanks for asking.

I've realized, I think, that alcohol is a no go zone for me. This all came about in part because of alcohol. At the weekend I socialised while drinking and I was so hopeless even when I got on with people. I realized I just have to accept I can't socialise much like other people. Certainly not with the kind of people who go drinking anyway. It's tempting to do it because attractive women go drinking but I see now it's just an illusion that takes a lot of my money, pride and sanity away. The rejection gets me in those suicidal moods.

I feel unhappy with life to be honest, in many ways, but I think I have to try to live as some kind of hermit who pursues his passions and tries to make a contribution to some niche.

Im pretty sure I'm genetically disposed to not handle alcohol. My mother is Jewish and it's not unusual for some Jewish people to be lightweight drinkers. It hits us more for some reason. My mother said she did things totally out of character that scares her the few times she drank when she was young.

I just made a big online order of organic food and fruit juice. I'm going to try and become a specialist at something and forget about trying to be a sociable person. If I ever feel more confident I want to try joining local special interest groups too. I'm slowly refining my diet as I mentioned in other threads. This is because I have felt tired and not been able to focus on learning for doing much for years when I ate like an average diet. So I recently found out potatoes, yes :D the humble potato, gives me tiredness and nasty toilet problems. So I'm going to be eating mostly vegetables, beans, lentils, nuts, seeds and fruits and see how it goes.

All I can do is try and be patient and hope one day I will feel able to cope with everything.

Too long, didn't read version: I'm alright. :)


Good that you are back Fifasy.

When I met my husband he was addicted to all sorts of things that are bad for you. Coincidentally, his father is Jewish. :lol: It sounds really positive that you recognise that you are not your best self on alcohol. Over time my husband has become addicted to more and more healthy things. I think it is really good to go down the route of finding other things that matter to you.

Do you eat Quinoa? I find it a good substitute for other carbs that I don't eat such as pasta. It is also really easy to cook a batch as it keeps well for the next day too. Also, depending where you live in the country Riverford are great for high quality fruit and veg.

It took me until I was about 35 to realise that I didn't need to be social for the sake of being social. It was like this eureka moment when I realised that all the enforced spending time with others was actually fairly detrimental to me. I have a very small group of people I really like spending time with, that energise me, and make me feel alive and understood but I now avoid being social with people who just make me feel drained. I feel better for it. It is nice to be able to make an active choice about how much of yourself you give away and how much you keep for yourself.


Quinoa, I forgot about that! :) I need to see how I respond to it. I like the batch suggestion and I needed a pasta replacement so that's useful advice, thank you. I'll have a look at Riverside too.

I get what you mean about not wanting to be drained and to conserve your energy and be with the people who suit. It's good to know I'm not alone in the feeling.



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23 May 2018, 4:29 pm

I love the idea of contributing to a niche + the healthy foods you ordered. Today I stopped at the health food store and bought items I thought wd help my Anemia, but I Reeeeally didn’t want to try (thought it wd be nasty)

Sprouted chia seed powder, raw cacao nibs, blended with organic frozen berries/cherries and almond milk. With honey.
This had all been recommended to me.

I was prepared to hate it... it tasted awesome! I am right there with you with the drive to be healthy.

I bet good nutrition is more necessary for Autistics than ‘Normal’ ppl.


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23 May 2018, 5:21 pm

MsBerg and Trogluddite I appreciate you sharing your experiences, it's nice to not be alone.

I like that you're getting into more wholesome foods blooiejagwa. I haven't tried cacao nibs or chia seeds or powder yet but they're on my to do list. :thumleft:



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23 May 2018, 6:33 pm

I’m glad to hear that you are doing better fifasy :D . I understand what you mean by being unable to stand the rejection, as I have a really hard time dealing with the rejection and isolation as well. I know how horrible that can feel, and I am really sorry you have to deal with this. People can be so exclusive. But one thing I’m confident about is that whatever niche you choose you will excel in and make fantastic contributions for. That’s why we need you here, man :wink: ! Good luck with your new nutrition plan. I think what we put into our bodies has a large impact on everything without us even noticing or identifying the root cause. I’m glad you are alright, and I hope you will find peace and contentment very soon!

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23 May 2018, 6:44 pm

fifasy wrote:
MsBerg and Trogluddite I appreciate you sharing your experiences, it's nice to not be alone.

I like that you're getting into more wholesome foods blooiejagwa. I haven't tried cacao nibs or chia seeds or powder yet but they're on my to do list. :thumleft:


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24 May 2018, 1:07 am

Yes, quinoa can be a little bland by itself but boil it with a little veggie stock and it will be better. I make big batches of oven roasted veg too and then you can keep both in the fridge and just put some together and sprinkle with some feta and nuts or what ever else you like and you have a meal in minutes.

I get "high" on chia seeds. It was not pleasant so I avoid them. I'm a freak or maybe I just had too many at once? Just be careful! I think it has something to do with me having very low blood pressure.

Blooiejagwa, I think you are so right about good nutrition being more important with autism. It is like a finely tuned balance and good nutrition and sleep help keep things more manageable. If you are still struggling with anemia try floradix. It is a vegetable based iron juice. It perks me up tons. Also, be careful not to eat chocolate or tea close to meals as it inhibits the absorption of iron from foods.

Oh and something my grandmother taught me, you can put a tablespoon of raw apple cider vinegar in a glass of water each morning and drink before eating. It really aids digestion. The vinegar is not great for your teeth so even better if you can drink it with a straw.


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24 May 2018, 4:52 am

fifasy wrote:

I feel unhappy with life to be honest, in many ways, but I think I have to try to live as some kind of hermit who pursues his passions and tries to make a contribution to some niche.


I recognize the position you find yourself in at this point in time, and from my perspective, you've made some excellent choices here. Focusing on an interest and on contributing somehow to something meaningful outside yourself are things that can serve you well and enrich your life. I have found that happiness creeps up when I am not looking, but am doing other things.

I accidentally fell into such a niche and it has been a real blessing. But none of this happened until I gave up trying to be someone I am not and insisting (to myself) that I will do the things that truly interest me.


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