why do people care if others they hate kill themselves?

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you are too young to cash in your chips now, you have barely put your stake down much less played your cards to their end. you don't know what cards will come up. entertain the possibility that if you ditch this world now, that you will only have to come right back, possibly in worse circumstances. so might as well play these cards now and be done with it soon enough, rather than risk a worse game thrust upon you. just a thought.

I'm past my prime. I'm 27. should been middle class making 30 an hour with a wife and 2 kids by now. that'll never happen. so why not just let it end.

done with it?

I won't try to change your mind, only you can do that. what I will say now, is that I'm twice your age and still never got to have the middle-class $30/hr. and tight family unit, either. you are not the only one who is bereft of the nice things our culture reserves for the lucky and the strong. it would just be so much better, if us "children of a lesser god" can stick together and help each other out.

a wife and family is all I've every wanted, so I have no other reason to live. other aspies may focus on their interests and be fine without love ones, but my interest is love ones. glad you are ok with how your life turned out, but honestly it makes me even less wanting to live to hear that's my future. I don't care about the money but without it no woman will ever have me.

wish I could burn every money in the world, delete all electronic records of it, demolish wall street and all the similar things. money is the root of all that is wrong with our race.

there's this hole in my life and soul that is only growing til it consumes me all. everyones advice is to accept and let it do so. I'd rather die before there's nothing left of me. and all that exists is a hateful, resentful person.

I don't want to die though but it seems like the only choice left. I can't be loved I'm not even good enough for just sex. I am completely worthless. women piss me off so much. I can't help but want to hope they all also spend their lifes alone but that won't happen the'll just share a few guys amongst themselves.

but its not their fault I's my fault right ? my fault I was born such a horrible horrible worthless person. I didn't ask to be born into this world. I didn't want to be part of this hell.

they lie and lie tell you you're going have this happy life that you'll be loved and have a family, but its all lies. for what end I don't know but once you're an adult you're either in the group or thrown out to die. doesn't make sense, logic would dictate that every woman would want to find a guy to be with someone etc. but nope they'd rather share a guy or die alone then date a poor guy. nothing else matters til they need that income requirement.

if the world economy was to fall tomorrow, what would that high income and nothing else mean. what use would worthless paper be to them. can't buy loyalty with paper, soon as it worthless they'll be alone.

you're a kind person though. I just feel so hopeless. I try not to respond to other posts because I can't lie and tell people it'll be alright not when I know the reality is people like me only have one choice and that is to die. theres no love for us.
we never should been born. only worthy people should be born, those who can be loved and be successful.

just wish i could win the lottery and go get away from everyone. have food delivered and never talk to anyone.

and reject a bunch of women after they come swarming for my money. karma. starting to feel less bad for women rejected for their looks or bodies. seems its the way of things, women reject guys based on money, so seems fair men reject them off looks, both aren't something most people can help change. though for every woman theres 10 guys willing to date the, but men who are poor are just screwed. no one will date men like me.

It's nobody's fault, sly.

Maybe you could think of your situation differently. Maybe there is someone out there for you but she just isn't ready yet. It doesn't mean it won't happen; it just means that it just needs time.

Maybe she is dealing with somethings or in a dead end relationship at this time or live really far away. Maybe what you want is just not ready yet.

Tv makes people believe that we ALL should do things at the same time but it's a lie. Some of the best stories about people's lives are about people that had to really struggle to anywhere in life. I watched the movie Being Nick Flynn or something like that. The movie was about his life and he had a lot of awful things happen to him, but he honed in on his gift and became successful. I believe his success was due to the hardship he faced.

Suicide is a (.)
Life is a (?)
Nothing in life is permanent or perfect, but what if the (?) could turn into what you want with some time and hard work.

Several things here. First off, 27 isn't that old to not be in a relationship. It used to be, but it's not anymore. A lot of my kids friends are that age and older and single. Some are that age and have only recently gotten together with someone. It's pretty common now to be 27 and not be in a relationship, so don't write it off because of your age.

What are the specific things about you that you think are causing you to not be able to get a girlfriend? Think of specif things that you can work on. Don't say "I'm not changing anything about myself" because everybody has to change something for a relationship because it's always compromise in one. Always somebody is compromising for the other at one point or other. Maybe you can work on those things and get a girlfriend.

As for suicide, it's not a good idea. I've tried it myself and really wanted to die when I did because I saw no hope in living, so I'm not just talking out of my ass here. Things got better when I didn't die. Not immediately of course. They got worse for a while directly afterwards, but they did get better. And don't say nothing will get better for you because it hasn't yet because you don't know what the future holds for real. If you did then you would already be rich living in vegas and breaking the bookies bank every week. You know what you anticipate might happen based on past experience, but past experience and future experience are not always the same, there are lots of variables, like different people being there. There is a first time for a lot of stuff.

A good friend of mine killed herself last year. Just shot herself in the head while her family was at church. She did it for a reason and to make a point which it did and she got what she wanted to get across, that her family were being s**ts to her, and yeah they felt bad but all that did was kill her. They can't make it up to her now. She can't get any benefit out of her actions. She did not think ahead. Killing yourself is like gouging your eyes out because you don't like the first 20 minutes of the movie. Yeah, it makes you not have to see it anymore, but you could also have got up and walked out and got a ticket to another movie, or went home and read a book or got online or done anything else in the world besides gouge your eyes out. It does just seem like the thing to do at the time sometimes, I'll admit that, but it's not. It basically means you lose the game. You have no chance of ever doing anything if you kill yourself. Also, we don't know for a fact what happens after death. It could be great, it could be nothing or it could be horrible as hell. Why chance that? Try everything else first, before that. You can't undo it. Also, you might change your mind in a few days and be glad you didn't. Thats why I don't think I'll ever try it again, I was glad later I didn't do a good job of it. Dying is actually scarier than you think and even if you want to die, when it seems like it's starting to happen to you, it's not all going gentle into that goodnight. So, you might screw up and really do it even if you change your mind at the last minute. Best not to play with that. And I do know where you are coming from. Just because I have a husband and kids doesn't mean I have this great life all the time. It's not.

So, anyway, I wish you well. If there is anything I can do, let me know.

Olive Oil makes lots and lots of sense, and she knows depression pretty well.

I wouldn't mind going a couple of rounds with her.

Seriously....I would speak to people who have stared suicide in the face, and ultimately came out to be winners in life.

some thoughts- ted turner once said "life is like a b-grade movie, in that while I wouldn't walk out on it before it was over, neither again would I wish to see it again." notably melancholy abe Lincoln once said "a person's about as happy as they make up their minds to be." another- "some people want to die because they don't know how to live." I saw a person in my aspie meetup group, he showed up once, he had tried to commit suicide by taking a 20-gauge shotgun and sticking it in his mouth and blowing his brains out, but he missed [most improbably] and blew most of his face off instead. luckily his eyes somehow survived, but his mouth had to be surgically reconstructed and he had a big hole where his nose was. 'tis a pity, I could tell from his perfectly symmetrical facial/body structure that he was a model beauty beforehand. still he was seemingly glad he failed to complete his final mission. what I have learnt from all this, is that all any of us can do, and do prudently, is just live one day at a time, from one day to the next. just concentrate on what is right in front of us, just for this day, today. then repeat the next day and the next et al.

but are they 27 and never ever had a relationship. its not being 27 and single its 27 and always been and likely always will be single. I never had a middle or high school relationship. I only ever had like 7 dates my whole life. never had a 2nd date. and really only 3 of those were actual dates.

I'm so tired of trying and trying. I keep failing. no one will hire me. I'm making myself thinner by eating less and being hungry a lot so i can hopefully please some woman who likely won't even give a s**t. I have to hide most everything about me. because society deems it wrong. and women won't like it.
but as for things preventing me
I don't have a job besides a seasonal one. I can't get work I've been trying the gov has been trying. even if I get work it won't be the work women require which is making $25 or more an hour and continuing to get promotions to make more. all this does is stress me and make me depressed, and I don't even know why I bother looking for work since it won't matter as it'll never be good enough. they live in this make believe world where women don't work and every guy can get a great paying jobs like we're still in the 1940s or something. got into a fight with a female friend over this. lets say in a perfect world back in the day. 100 jobs, 100 men/100 women. all men work. fast foward to women rights(good thing) 100 jobs. 50 women or so working. still 100 women/100 men. so if 50 women work. can all 100 men still work? nope. because there's only 50 jobs left. now most jobs don't pay $25 in up. most don't even pay 15 most pay min wage nowadays. and we're lucky to even have that with automation and overseas workforce taking jobs. so how is it that women expect all men to have great paying jobs? because honestly I don't see how its possible. we have high unemployment in the nation. if there were enough $25 an hour jobs for all people then we wouldnt needs welfare, and all the other programs. veterans who fought for us wouldn't' be living homeless on the streets. yet she keeps to her stance that men need to have a great paying job and women are right to demand this all while saying if her current bf was unemployed she'd date him still(mind you they've never met. and she said she wouldn't date me because I don't make enough.) which is fine I don't want to date her. but I think its bulshit that she'd still date the other guy if he lost his job. shes very passionate about men making a certain amount so she can vacation in europe or hawaii.

about body. so its ok for women to be fat. theres a whole public campaign about it. but men can't be any fatter than a twig or they undateable. oh and women can be obese and jobless and its ok, but men can't. never say it to her but she's fat and just quit her job. so why is it it's ok for her to demand much more from guys then she and other women are doing themselves. so tired of seeing fat unemployed women demanding that guys be athletic, skinny and make good money. and society says thats ok and right but it's not ok for men to expect the same. heck men don't care in most cases about what job a woman has or how much she makes. most they do is about looks and they get hated on for that.

really I'm just so tired and hungry. I'm super stressed out from trying to find work. I did everything right I got all the certifications. but I don't' have experience. and can't get any until someone hires me but on one will because I lack the experience. problem is due to the high unemployment and low jobs, there's tons of experience people out there looking for work. all competing for a lousy $10 an hour job.

I'm changed too much already. and If i ever did get a relationship I have to throw out all the hobbies and things I love and pretend to be something I'm not for who knows how long. why? why is everything about me so f*****g wrong. because I'm not some clone that marches to societies drums. likes foot ball and drinks beer.

maybe she just wanted to be free from it all. like robin williams. they'll both finally free. I want to be free and death appears to be the only way to freedom. really just isn't enough life to go around in this world. too overpopulated. the us population should really be halved. to 150 million. then they'd be enough jobs and money to go around. so theres no room for people like me. those who are born different think different, go their own ways, those who can't find work despite trying their best despite doing everything people and the gov told them to do.

I'm sure somebody, or some thing, wanted that guy alive!

I've sure Sly will become a sly devil when he's 35.

sly devil?

less shy and more sly

LOL...I didn't mean for you to take that literally!

When you call somebody a "sly devil," you're calling that person clever.

oh.