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03 May 2011, 12:00 pm

I think I'm going to try and stop drinking. I drink about half a 750ml bottle of whiskey a night. On a few occassions I've even drank the whole thing. I've gained so much weight from drinking, I feel like crap most of the time. I always tell myself that I'm not happy because of other things but I think its really because I don't like the way I feel from drinking. Here lately I've had a few sharp pains that come and go as they please and its right around where my kidneys are. I've even felt like someone stabbed me in the chest a few times. Somethings up, I know, and I'm not going to to go pay a doctor to tell me to stop drinking. It might already be too late, but I think I'll be ok. I have so many excuses for why I need to drink and really thats all they are.....excuses. I've used it as a way to put me to sleep at night because on the few nights that I don't drink I can't sleep at all, but thats because of withdrawal. Drinking hasn't brought me anything positive other than the temporary buzz which I love, but I know is killing me. After 6 years of constant punishment to my kidneys, I think its time I did something before I end up on the operating table with a tag on my toe.

I'm not really posting any of this to get any of those "don't give up!" replies. I think its more or less something for me to visually see.....in writing. Positive feedback from other people isn't going to help me kick the habit. It'll be the way I look and feel that will make me stay sober. All I know is that the next few days are going to be absolute hell.


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03 May 2011, 1:59 pm

Katatonic wrote:
I'm not really posting any of this to get any of those "don't give up!" replies. I think its more or less something for me to visually see.....in writing. Positive feedback from other people isn't going to help me kick the habit. It'll be the way I look and feel that will make me stay sober. All I know is that the next few days are going to be absolute hell.

Keep us posted, please! Completely rational and sane logic used to tell me the pain in my life that came from drinking was worse than the pain of living my life sober, but then the pain of living my life sober always ended up driving me back to drinking ...

... and you might or might not ultimately discover the same in your own case.

Without going too overboard, some sugar -- something like a little honey mixed into some milk -- can help with temporarily replacing the sugar our bodies had become accustomed to having while drinking, but you still might need a little medical help during the actual detoxification process. I have forgotten the name of the medication used in a detoxification facility where I used to work, but the need to have an injection or two is not at all uncommon for stabilizing pulse, temperature and blood pressure for a few days. In the very worst of cases, many heavy drinkers or alcoholics who die from drinking actually do so during alcohol withdrawal.


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04 May 2011, 1:18 pm

Katatonic wrote:
I think I'm going to try and stop drinking. I drink about half a 750ml bottle of whiskey a night. On a few occassions I've even drank the whole thing. I've gained so much weight from drinking, I feel like crap most of the time. I always tell myself that I'm not happy because of other things but I think its really because I don't like the way I feel from drinking. Here lately I've had a few sharp pains that come and go as they please and its right around where my kidneys are. I've even felt like someone stabbed me in the chest a few times. Somethings up, I know, and I'm not going to to go pay a doctor to tell me to stop drinking. It might already be too late, but I think I'll be ok. I have so many excuses for why I need to drink and really thats all they are.....excuses. I've used it as a way to put me to sleep at night because on the few nights that I don't drink I can't sleep at all, but thats because of withdrawal. Drinking hasn't brought me anything positive other than the temporary buzz which I love, but I know is killing me. After 6 years of constant punishment to my kidneys, I think its time I did something before I end up on the operating table with a tag on my toe.

I'm not really posting any of this to get any of those "don't give up!" replies. I think its more or less something for me to visually see.....in writing. Positive feedback from other people isn't going to help me kick the habit. It'll be the way I look and feel that will make me stay sober. All I know is that the next few days are going to be absolute hell.


Dude, you gotta stop or you're going to die very young.

That's all there is to it.

So much of our alcohol abuse comes from not being able to sleep. I really believe that. People with ASD have sleep issues the mechanisms of which are poorly researched and understood and that are just not treatable without chemical help and unfortunately this often includes booze. It's no good for the quality of your sleep but, to be honest... it works when nothing else will. I have no desire to drink except when I need it to sleep, which is quite often unfortunately. Several times a week.

It sounds like you are an alcoholic by any definition of the word. If anything else man, switch to distilled liquor such as light rum or vodka. It's not quite so hard on your body. Still bad for you, but not as much as the rotgut. Make sure you are keeping yourself hydrated and take plenty of multivitamins. Try and get some exercise to offset the excessive calorie intake from the liquor.

Just some harm reduction advice for you... :cry:

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04 May 2011, 4:11 pm

Katatonic wrote:
I'm not really posting any of this to get any of those "don't give up!" replies. I think its more or less something for me to visually see.....in writing.


Yeah, I do that a lot also. Sorry if this puts you down but it never worked for me.

Have you ever considered talking to a psychiatrist about your sleep issues? If you don't have a history of drug abuse (don't mention the alcohol, it's not really necessary...) he will probably give you some benzodiazepines or quetiapine for sleep. The latter, for one, works like a charm and doesn't have any nasty side-effects for most cases. They pretty much give this out like candy where I live...



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04 May 2011, 4:49 pm

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Have you ever considered talking to a psychiatrist about your sleep issues? If you don't have a history of drug abuse (don't mention the alcohol, it's not really necessary...) ...

Why not?


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06 May 2011, 2:09 am

leejosepho wrote:
AldousH wrote:
Have you ever considered talking to a psychiatrist about your sleep issues? If you don't have a history of drug abuse (don't mention the alcohol, it's not really necessary...) ...

Why not?


He wouldn't get his sleeping aids because the risk of abuse.
I do however doubt this would happen if he lives in the US. If that's the case, I would actually recomand him to take half-doses of what he's prescribed.



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06 May 2011, 9:05 am

AldousH wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
AldousH wrote:
Have you ever considered talking to a psychiatrist about your sleep issues? If you don't have a history of drug abuse (don't mention the alcohol, it's not really necessary...) ...

Why not?


He wouldn't get his sleeping aids because the risk of abuse.
I do however doubt this would happen if he lives in the US. If that's the case, I would actually recomand him to take half-doses of what he's prescribed.

Are you a doctor? (Sorry, you don't list your occupation in your profile.)



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07 May 2011, 2:11 am

No. I've just been in a similar situation a while back.



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07 May 2011, 1:23 pm

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No. I've just been in a similar situation a while back.

IDK ... this may be highly individual. But, when I was first getting sober, what worked best for me was honesty. It was refreshing, actually. First time I had ever been honest with anyone about anything in my entire life! I was just so sick of hiding behind lie behind lie behind lie. I understand that everyone does this his or her own way, however, and that your way may be totally valid if it's keeping you sober.



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22 May 2011, 6:20 am

i smoke marijuana and drink alcohol quite often to replace the lack of people/bonds in my life. whatever i can get my hands on, i'll almost always pick MJ over alcohol if i have the $. as long as there isn't connection in my life, i will continue to use.

i know this...because despite my problems, i used to actually have a life. or something more like it anyway. i really don't know if i'm looking for help or not (i also toke for medical reasons), i really don't even know why i'm posting this. i've had a very weird, sobering day



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23 May 2011, 4:51 am

wanna relapse so bad. if my family had no way of contacting me, id do it in a hurry. :(


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23 May 2011, 5:13 am

I think if you stick with it the feeling will pass though. You could perhaps be having a rough night.


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23 May 2011, 5:25 am

oh i'm not going to do it. but it does keep passing my thoughts. i really don't want to go back to that but i can't stop dreaming or thinking about the euphoria of it. only the pleasant memories come to me without thinking. whats strange is the certain smells that bring it on like the fresh air or incense, nice smells. like i want to escape just for a moment but then i have to look back in my journal at the consequences which pail in comparison to those overwhelming "good" thoughts. i am always aware how much mind is apt to playing tricks on me.


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23 May 2011, 5:32 am

Well, it sounds like you are doing well, though you are having the cravings, you can also see that you dont really want it. You just want to be feeling better, and see an improvement in things.

Anyway it is bedtime here. I hope you keep posting if you are not feeling so good, and keep it up with the journal. I think I might start one up to, for my eating disorder.

Goodnight....


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23 May 2011, 5:41 am

i think this place helps a little. this forum or haven is where i can be honest without being put down or ridiculed. not a lot of people understand addiction. it's still a battle for me but one i know the patterns of all too well.


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23 May 2011, 10:09 am

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not a lot of people understand addiction.

Well, I'm not sure that you need a lot of people to understand, right? Maybe just one person at exactly the right time. I'm pretty confident that I or anyone else here who's indicated interest and concern would be happy to receive a PM from you or anyone else when things get a little rough. Everyone needs to be talked in from the ledge every now and then. Runs with the territory, as I'm sure you know...