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leejosepho
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23 May 2011, 11:35 am

MissConstrue wrote:
... still a battle for me ...

From within Step Ten: "... And we have ceased fighting anything or anyone - even alcohol ..."

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... still a battle for me ... one i know the patterns of all too well.

Your own mileage may vary here, but here is my own experience ...

"He had much knowledge about himself as an alcoholic. Yet all reasons for not drinking were easily pushed aside in favor of ..." (page 36)

Self-knowledge is of little use at all for people like us, but the treatment centers just do not seem to understand or to even care at all there.


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23 May 2011, 11:47 am

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Self-knowledge is of little use at all for people like us, but the treatment centers just do not seem to understand or to even care at all there.

LOL! All of the "self-knowledge" I gained in this area simply delayed my sobriety. I got sober only when it was pointed out to me that all of the excuses I had to continue to drink the way I was were reasons I should stop (and never should have started in the first place). I could probably think my way back into drinking in about 5 minutes if I allowed myself to do that.

The old line about "my best thinking got me here..." :?



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13 Jun 2011, 11:28 pm

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i smoke marijuana and drink alcohol quite often to replace the lack of people/bonds in my life. whatever i can get my hands on, i'll almost always pick MJ over alcohol if i have the $. as long as there isn't connection in my life, i will continue to use.

i know this...because despite my problems, i used to actually have a life. or something more like it anyway. i really don't know if i'm looking for help or not (i also toke for medical reasons), i really don't even know why i'm posting this. i've had a very weird, sobering day


I was thinking the same a while back.

I made a close friend since, and this only made me find new reasons to get wasted.

I started having strong feelings for her, and now I realise that she doesn't share them because of my addictions, and how big of a part they play in my life. It's sad to think that we got to be friends because of her "liking me that way" initially.



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14 Jun 2011, 12:06 am

damn man...fwb maybes?



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23 Jun 2011, 6:42 pm

My opiate problem is coming back because it's the only way I can get to sleep. I've had really bad insomnia. I can't drink alcohol because of the meds I'm on. The doctor won't prescribe me sleeping pills because they're too addictive. :lol:

This is exactly how I got hooked on opiates at uni. I was on SSRIs and couldn't drink. I didn't want to disturb my housemates by pacing round the house in the wee hours. One of the people I lived with had a prescription for dihydrocodeine that they couldn't use due to an allergy. I tried some of their meds and that was it...

Yeah, I know it's not a really strong opiate and it can be quit with relative ease (I've quit it before). Anyone who's been addicted to stronger opiates is probably :roll: at this. But still, it's not a good addiction to have.

I need to set a day to stop and then try to practice 'sleep hygiene' from then on. I'll try this weekend...


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23 Jun 2011, 6:49 pm

I've been on the swally! Yeeeoooo!

3 x bottles of Manns Brown Ale
1 x bottle of Elgoods Double Swan
1 x bottle of Sheppy's Vintage Cider
1 x bottle of Wold Top Wold Gold

I think that shall be enough for this evening. ;)



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24 Jun 2011, 4:44 pm

I beat my opiate addiction with willpower and an uncommon herb called kratom. (one of my obsessions is psychopharmacology). It mimics the opiate effects by binding to Mu opiate receptors and a little bit of Kappa. Kappa causes your mood to increase and there is a bit of an increase in dopamine. (Which helps my ASD too.) It kills the need and it's much much much less addicting. You can only get physically addicted if you take it in huge amounts daily. It also has other health benefits such as the anecdotal evidence of it being good for the prevention of colds by stimulating the immune system. Hope you get better it's hard, but it's better being free.

(Also, sorry to go off on a tangent but I've been thinking that people with ASD may actually parts or have a dysfunctional endomorphine system. This would account for the sensitivity to stimulation as well as mood problems. It seemed to make me better when I was taking mild amounts of opiates. Variables of these levels could cause asexuality . Also I've noticed that opiates would make me feel hotter in the summer, etc. Might be of some worth investigating.)



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24 Jun 2011, 4:59 pm

I haven't taken any opiates tonight (feeling bad already) and I'm actually dreading the idea of going cold turkey this weekend. :(

I think I might go to the headshop tomorrow and get some of that Kratom to help me stop. I'll try it on Sunday and then report back on how it went.


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24 Jun 2011, 5:58 pm

Bah don't go to a headshop for future use though, just use it for temp relief. If you want quality kratom you've got to look online. certain forums dealing with kratom have sources. I've been a daily user for some time because it helps me focus on music.



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26 Jun 2011, 7:11 am

I'm doing pretty well today.

I bought some kratom, but I don't think I need to use it, yet.

I've just realised that once I get past the physical stage (which isn't that bad because I only used really mild opiates), it's all in my head. I have to do what I did with nicotine and basically beat the mental addiction.

Fun. :lol:


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26 Jun 2011, 7:33 am

You can do it. I also beat nicotine and the mental from that was so much worse.



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27 Jun 2011, 5:37 pm

Still doing well. I just really hope I get to sleep tonight. Taken some valerian herbal sleeping pills.


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28 Jun 2011, 11:00 pm

I want to go back to drinking but gave it up 2 months ago and have been sober since...

Lately I have been craving alcohol... What do I do... How do I get rid of the cravings? any ideas?



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29 Jun 2011, 4:46 am

pree10shun wrote:
I want to go back to drinking but gave it up 2 months ago and have been sober since...

Lately I have been craving alcohol... What do I do... How do I get rid of the cravings? any ideas?

Find a sufficient substitute. We drank for the effect we got from drinking, and sobriety does not take those needs/desires away. Personally, I took the Twelve Steps to enter into spiritual fellowship with others.


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29 Jun 2011, 5:20 pm

Thanks for the the advice I managed to get over the craving



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04 Aug 2011, 5:42 am

i'm drinking again and i hate it.

it makes me hate myself

i am able to stop and sometimes ive even been able to drink moderately but what happens is this. i get full of energy and I keep planning things to do and booking all my time up. then i get over-loaded. i can't fully relax without a drink. maybe what i need to bear in mind is that i probably dont fully relax WITH one either, it just gives me the illusion.

i have a stinking hangover, i'm supposed to be working and i can't, i keep think im going to throw up