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i think people are very limited when it comes to social understanding and acceptance, and are only beginning to be more accepting of minorities.
being an intelligent person is not about science, but about obeying a simple rule of doing unto others as they would do unto you. it's about suppressing your own selfish desires and living for others as opposed to yourself. i think people are becoming more isolated than ever, especially with the gadgets that absorb all of their attention. they need to try to learn about what people beyond their own social scope are like, to explore all sides to humanity, and to do that not through media, but through real-life experiences. thanks to the gadgets, we live in a simulation of reality, which is more accessible but promotes stereotyping and thus a false image of reality.
the development of science and technology is driven by capitalism, and is therefore also very self-centered. it's not about people expressing themselves for mutual benefit, it's about economy and power. people create these things because they know that they will make millions off of it, which in turn gives them the feeling of security and power.
sex is restricting. people tend to bond with those who are from the same socioeconomic background as them. sexual attraction is primarily based on appearance. at the moment that a person is experiencing sexual feelings for somebody, they are not thinking about what the other person might be feeling or thinking, about the past experiences they might have lived through, or about their intellectual identity. they are only thinking about getting pleasure for themselves.
Agreed, all except your last paragraph and I'll explain why in a short while. Also I believe you may have misunderstood me, or I used the wrong wording, when I mentioned intelligence - you see I attribute wisdom and compassion with the traits you described (Doing unto others as you would do unto yourself, selflessness, independence) and intelligence as the consumption and retention of information (information created in this day and age can only be used in this social climate thus being generally useless for and life path other than the one fed to you). Learning to adapt to, use and thrive off of and with the resources provided naturally is all the information we really need.
As for your final paragraph all the negatives you attributed to sex have been created through our society, basically what I'm saying is, they're false. No you are right they're not experiencing what the other person is experiencing or has experienced for two reasons - It's not necessary to carry the act through (and base convenience is a byproduct of our soulless society, it's not convenient to have to link with our partners emotions) and because we have lost touch with the ability to do so, I firmly believe we are all from the same source so we are all be able connect in one way or another.
One final point, what you said "living for others as opposed to yourself" slightly disturbs me. I have met a few people with a similar outlook, wonderful people really but they all share a common trait and that is a self destructive urge to appease all others and they ALWAYS leave themselves out, please tell me this isn't a route you're taking? It causes far more harm than it does good. I fully understand your want to help others, it's admirable, but if you don't take care of yourself then you're impeding your ability to help others. I feel it's all about an even balance, don't neglect others but don't neglect yourself either as it impedes your development.
I don't think you necessarily have to stick to the path that is fed to you. You can choose to go with the flow because it's easier, but you may also choose to go beyond it, learn about things that are external to your path, and pursue it with consideration and criticism. Rules are not absolute.
One final point, what you said "living for others as opposed to yourself" slightly disturbs me. I have met a few people with a similar outlook, wonderful people really but they all share a common trait and that is a self destructive urge to appease all others and they ALWAYS leave themselves out, please tell me this isn't a route you're taking? It causes far more harm than it does good. I fully understand your want to help others, it's admirable, but if you don't take care of yourself then you're impeding your ability to help others. I feel it's all about an even balance, don't neglect others but don't neglect yourself either as it impedes your development.
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I've also gone through a spell of depression, over the past week. I was melting down at the clubhouse, and I haven't been eating much. A woman who's 2 years older than me, but very immature, said that she'd never do anything to hurt me. Well, she told me not to phone anymore, two weeks ago, she showed up at my place and wanted to go out with my two best friend and I, a week ago. She called me a lair, and hung up on me, last Wednesday, just because I joked around about one of the male staff at the club having a crush on her. All that has thrown me in, for a loop.
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I don't think you necessarily have to stick to the path that is fed to you. You can choose to go with the flow because it's easier, but you may also choose to go beyond it, learn about things that are external to your path, and pursue it with consideration and criticism. Rules are not absolute.
One final point, what you said "living for others as opposed to yourself" slightly disturbs me. I have met a few people with a similar outlook, wonderful people really but they all share a common trait and that is a self destructive urge to appease all others and they ALWAYS leave themselves out, please tell me this isn't a route you're taking? It causes far more harm than it does good. I fully understand your want to help others, it's admirable, but if you don't take care of yourself then you're impeding your ability to help others. I feel it's all about an even balance, don't neglect others but don't neglect yourself either as it impedes your development.
I think everyone has the ability to feel compassion but we're not all compassionate about the same things, for example you seem compassionate about other people where as other people might be compassionate about their country or their belongings or their vegetable garden - I wouldn't necessarily say that their being compassionate about things you disagree with makes them "wrong" they simply have different priorities. Excuse my bluntness and I mean no offense but you have an aura of "salvation" about the way you try and get people to challenge their beliefs, I know lots of people who's belief systems I could never follow but if they're happy then why not leave them be? They'll find their way in the end because one thing society cannot take away from us is our humanity. It is their reality they see through their eyes, what makes it wrong?
Don't get me wrong I also enjoy expanding my knowledge of other people, belief systems and cultures but nothing but harm can befall everyone if the anthropologist begins to change what they're studying.
That sounds horrible
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That sounds horrible
She's a perfectionist, and she doesn't want to be around people who have problems. She says to Dean, that she can't find a boyfriend with Barb and I around, because Barb and I are too old, even though Barb is only 60, and I'm two years younger than she is. She also can't be around people who have "problems" I'm on the spectrum, obviously, I identify with the male gender and I wear pull-ups, and that woman thinks that I'm always angry, when I'm not.
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That sounds horrible
She's a perfectionist, and she doesn't want to be around people who have problems. She says to Dean, that she can't find a boyfriend with Barb and I around, because Barb and I are too old, even though Barb is only 60, and I'm two years younger than she is. She also can't be around people who have "problems" I'm on the spectrum, obviously, I identify with the male gender and I wear pull-ups, and that woman thinks that I'm always angry, when I'm not.
Then screw her, if she can't accept you and your other mate then let her go ply her nastiness elsewhere
I think that this is the only thing I am capable of doing for others for now. Besides educating people about autism, maybe, which is another thing I enjoy doing.
And CockneyRebel, that woman was not worth spending your time with in first place.
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This has nothing to do with my own beliefs. I just think that this is the only thing I am capable of doing for others for now. Besides educating people about autism, maybe, which is another thing I enjoy doing.
I'm not saying anything about educating, if someone want's educating then they'll listen - just the same way that if someone wants to expand or improve their reality then they will by their own desire alone, I personally don't feel people need pushed as it's their decision ultimately. If your heart is really set on helping people why not train to be a counselor or aid worker, they do wonderful, life changing things for people.
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But that's their decision, if you choose to push yourself to the limits of your being then that's fine but other people seem quite happy to lead the life they have chosen - think of it this way, if they were really miserable with their lot in life don't you think they'd strive to change it?
So the need to be involved in other people strives from boredom?
But that's their decision, if you choose to push yourself to the limits of your being then that's fine but other people seem quite happy to lead the life they have chosen - think of it this way, if they were really miserable with their lot in life don't you think they'd strive to change it?
So the need to be involved in other people strives from boredom?
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But that's their decision, if you choose to push yourself to the limits of your being then that's fine but other people seem quite happy to lead the life they have chosen - think of it this way, if they were really miserable with their lot in life don't you think they'd strive to change it?
So the need to be involved in other people strives from boredom?
I think suicidal is a little extreme, I've been there and boredom was the last thing on my mind. People are a pretty fragile toy to be using to alleviate your boredom - I don't mean that in a malicious way but really...
I really do feel suicidal, though. After I spend one day alone without any human contact whatsoever, it's almost guaranteed that I will begin having suicidal thoughts.
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I really do feel suicidal, though. After I spend one day alone without any human contact whatsoever, it's almost guaranteed that I will begin having suicidal thoughts.
Have you ever acted on, or made more than a token attempt at suicide preparation?
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