So worried about December 21 2012

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02 Jul 2012, 6:12 am

They certainly didn't see the Spanish coming. I wouldn't be worried.



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02 Jul 2012, 6:57 am

The TRUE meaning of 12/21/12 revealed!

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/29/460011 ... phics.html

Just showed up in my local paper. Mayans only referenced the end of the cycle as a sort of "this too shall pass" sort of thing. The sun rises and sets, battles are won and lost, birth/death/birth/death. Keep in mind that ancient cultures viewed time as a circle or a wheel. It's more natural to do so, imo, than linear time. Linear time is sort of weird to our brains, it doesn't compute. The brain literally can't comprehend the cessation of existence, so the brain panics.

I've been training myself to see things in a more Eastern fashion, circles upon wheels. If you believe that you will be reincarnated many times, as Buddhists do, the pressure to "get it right" during this go around goes away. That's no good for the Christ nuts, they want you to be in fear so they can control you. If religion is gonna control you, and we all have a religion even atheists (they believe in humanism), at least submit yourself to something halfway rational like Buddhism or Taoism. Taoism, from what I've read, is all about being at one with nature. Buddhism is all about the Middle Path.



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02 Jul 2012, 7:01 am

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I've read about this euro collapsing thing and I don't understand it one bit, but something tells me that it means everybody in the whole world will lose their jobs and there will be zero jobs. How will we survive? Any saved food will run out in time, electricity and gas won't be running any more, the world will come to a disturbing standstill. What's the point in all this talk about building some new shops in 2014 where I live if there will be no-one to run the shops? Who will build the shops if there will be no jobs?

I am really panicking. I can't bear this any longer. I've been crying all afternoon, my mum has come in and I'm trying to ask her what she knows about it but all she wants to do is sit in peace reading the newspaper. Will all this euro collapse sh** affect everyone on the planet, or is it just between the government? I am so worried. I'm going to lose my bus service, and that is my special interest, and my special interests is the only thing that keeps me going (emotionally).

Oh why can't this all be made up to frighten the sh** out of everybody? If most people have gotten so greedy for money then why are we letting it come to this where nobody will have no money? I just want to wake up on Christmas morning happily opening presents under my lit Christmas tree, not waking up in complete darkness without no electricity any more and just waiting to die.

I'm not going to the job centre this week. I will stay at home, and when they phone up threatening to stop my claim I'm going to say, ''what's the point in looking for work if we've only got 5 months left of employment on this planet?''



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Calm. Deep breaths. The world is NOT going to end. Go to the job centre, even if the people there are a**holes. Maybe you were an a**hole to people in your previous life, and this life you get to be on the receiving end. Study Buddhism, there's far more Buddhists in the UK than the US. You don't even have to join a group, you can read some of the texts and practice by yourself.



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02 Jul 2012, 7:05 am

My calander ends every year on December 31st and so far nothings happened.

They Mayan's aren't special. If they are so smart, where are they now? You never hear people say "Oh, he lives over in the Mayan part of town" or anything.


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02 Jul 2012, 9:19 am

If someone is Mayan, does that mean they are Mayannaise?


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02 Jul 2012, 10:05 am

PastFixations wrote:
If someone is Mayan, does that mean they are Mayannaise?


They're a sandwich spread?



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02 Jul 2012, 10:25 am

I would like to share something that I hope you can use to your benefit. I would not worry about this 2012 stuff. I respect the views of everyone here. I wanted to share additional insight into this 2012 issue. Why not have a hand in creating what you want to experience? Influence your reality? A reality of peace, and harmony. Do so through intention. I understand it’s all too easy to focus on the negative things around us (I am also guilty of this) because we are not perfect as human beings. At times things seem overwhelmingly negative and hopeless. Do not feed into it. Bad things will happen at this time. Accept this, but do not give in or entirely succumb to it. Right now it may seem as if it’s all expected to get worse. But it’s not exactly the end at all. Things just need to play out. If a little suffering happens along the way remember that all of us will be suffering through it together. So again, you aren’t alone. All the negativity on earth at this time is a much bigger problem. It’s basically a cosmic problem that can be alleviated through humanity elevating their overall consciousness. All of the earth drama that is playing out right now will run its course eventually. Managing consciousness is the most important thing to remember. Controllers know that which is why they constantly try and keep people down in every way possible.

Fear is pointless and fear is what actually can contribute to making such problems worse on an energetic level. This is why the minds of people on this planet have been manipulated and shaped, because those who have been in power know what humanity is really capable of. So they are afraid of people and their creative potential. What happens will happen. Try to live your life in the moment. The fact that everyone is here on earth at this time is a very important thing. Your lives are all important and special even if you don’t even know it. Make the most of it in a manner which not only you will be proud of, but the earth and well beyond. The planet is hurting but it will be fine. People need to finally understand what they are truly capable of and not be afraid. I believe in everyone here. Do not worry about future predictions because its not possible not predict the future, especially at this time on this planet. I will briefly explain why. This is due to the fact that we as people are influencing the outcome of the future in the present through consciousness and intention. The future cannot be set and fixed in one outcome. We can change it and it’s constantly changing. It can go anyway and no one really knows where, when, and how, but things will happen.

Please don’t worry about it. It is ok to prepare if you can or deem it necessary, but do not let your mind take control of you. Stay positive. To worry is a waste of time. How will you live your life if you only or primarily, focus on dying, or the demise of other people?

Regarding the Mayan issue:

The incessant hype and pop culture did wonders for this. Not only did it manage to scare the living hell out of, or should I say (into) people, but it also caused people to dwell on it because now they have a symbol to do so. There are so many great misunderstandings involved with not only the calendar, but the culture itself. I really do not feel like going into extensive detail here because it is not even really necessary. I will state that the whole Mayan issue has been greatly misunderstood, misdirected, and used as yet another tool. There are many avenues by which this Mayan issue can be used on people and it has been. It is not the end of the world. (Keep in mind that can be taken in multiple contexts) Did it even occur to people that maybe it marks the end of an era on the planet and NOT the end of all life? As far as (the end of time) Well, that can simply mean that time no longer needs to be measured because we have moved beyond the need. There can be so many meanings to these things. This is also why I have always greatly cautioned people when trying to interpret different forms of symbolism. Things do not always mean what they might immediately think it means. It’s so far more complicated. As for those who experience recurring dreams, it is very possible that perhaps they keep having the same dream until they understand the TRUE message behind it, and not what they thought the message was. (for example, death and destruction, and totalitarian control) Symbolic interpretation is highly complicated and can fool even the most advanced of us.

We are here to help and support. People are willing to help you through your fears and uncertainties. Seriously, do not be afraid. Nothing good comes of fear. Fear is a powerful tool and hinders the creative flow and potential of humanity. Do yourself a favor and live your life and see the creative beauty in life despite all the ugliness because this is true power. You are not alone and we are all here.



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02 Jul 2012, 11:33 am

The Mayan things sounds religeon-related to me, and if it were true about the Mayans then we would have learnt about it at school, but we never did and I hadn't even heard the word ''Mayan'' before until I suddenly read on the internet about something to do with the Mayan calender was going to end the world. I don't know how that works, I have never been told or taught that the Earth and life revolves around a Mayan calender.

And about the world being sucked into some black hole or the sun burning out or something - that won't happen over night. It takes decades, maybe centuries for these things to happen, and it always happens so gradually that we won't even notice. OK, the UK are getting colder summers now, and they might get colder and colder each year which might lead to something very gradually, but not yet. Nobody knows when the world is going to end, and I don't think it ever will end. Society is increasing, technology is getting greater, and it's unimaginable to think of the future. I bet people in the early 1990s were saying, ''I can't imagine life existing by the end of this century''. Now we're 12 years into the 21st century and still going even stronger.

And I don't think the euro collapse thing is going to happen precisely on 21 December because each time I type in this date in Google it just comes up with Mayan calender and that's it. I remember on a random Wednesday about 3 years ago I kept hearing everybody saying, ''the world is meant to end today'', and I was like, ''what?'' But things went on as normal and now it's 3 years later and we're all still here.


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02 Jul 2012, 11:41 am

PastFixations wrote:
If someone is Mayan, does that mean they are Mayannaise?


Bad, bad, bad. :shameonyou:

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02 Jul 2012, 11:55 am

if i die on 12-21-2012, then i will no longer have any reason to bother about whether i will die on 12-21-2012 because i will be then dead.
if i am alive the next day, then i similarly will no longer have any reason to bother about whether i will die on 12-21-2012.


everyone will die some day however



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02 Jul 2012, 12:06 pm

J90, it sounds like you have come to a calmer place about 12/21/12. :D

You might want to research "doomsday thinking". It's a way of framing the world that can really play into anxious personality types. There are various sub-cultures out there that foresee all sorts of catastrophes (both real & imagined) from acute global climate change to nuclear winters to meteors striking the earth to global pandemics.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/w ... 50300a.htm

It's not that some of these things can't happen, but that the sub-culture makes it the center of their way of experiencing & being in the world. Everything is viewed through the lens of that particular fear. Fundamentally unbalanced.

Simply, it's becoming paranoid about crossing the road, making your whole life about the dangers of roads, rather than just looking both ways.

Also, if you're prone to generalized anxiety, you might educate yourself on 'catastrophe thinking'. I've found knowing about my mind's tendency to focus on minute details helpful in staying a bit more balanced; perhaps knowing about how anxiety can be unreasonably inflated by your mind will help you stay more balanced, less subject to panic.

Be well. :D



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02 Jul 2012, 12:26 pm

b9 wrote:
if i die on 12-21-2012, then i will no longer have any reason to bother about whether i will die on 12-21-2012 because i will be then dead.
if i am alive the next day, then i similarly will no longer have any reason to bother about whether i will die on 12-21-2012.


everyone will die some day however


So true. And many will die before then. Nevertheless, we balance life & death, prepare for both possibilities. Have wills & life goals. Because truly we don't know.



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02 Jul 2012, 12:32 pm

The Mayans never predicted the world would end at any point on their calendar. They do not believe the world will end of 12/21/12. I've even read articles interviewing some of them (yes, they're still around) and they are getting a bit sick of hearing how they supposedly think the world is going to end this year. They do however think that it was the end of one of their big "cycles". It was meant to be a day of celebration, of renewal, not worldwide panic over the apocolypse. The entire idea that is the end of the world is entirely made up from by the Western world. Anyone who actually studies archaeology, anthropology, South American cultures, etc, knows that it's not actually true. If the economy and world government, whathaveyou, does collapse, it'll be our own fault - don't feed into the panic. It's like Y2K all over again!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16000331

Calm. Down. :)

Joe90 wrote:
The Mayan things sounds religeon-related to me, and if it were true about the Mayans then we would have learnt about it at school, but we never did and I hadn't even heard the word ''Mayan'' before until I suddenly read on the internet about something to do with the Mayan calender was going to end the world.


Actually they're kind of a big deal as far as South American history goes, and at one time they were a great civilization. I've known about the whole thing since I was a kid.

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04 Jul 2012, 6:23 am

Quote:
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror.
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.


Though ignored here in the USA, this Nostradamus prophecy caused a bit of a buzz in England in July of 1999 from what I could tell on the Internet. I was 16 and we'd just gotten our first Internet connection. Amazing how in one country the media jumped on this, but in others it was ignored.

Y2K and the whole 2000 computer crash thing was also played up for a few years leading up to 2000 when I was in high school. All those TV shows with people talking about doom and gloom. Nothing happened.

When 2012 is over, and nothing happens, I'm sure another date will be chosen.

For those too young to remember Y2K, this isn't the first time something like this has been trumped up. After 2012, when the next date is selected, you'll see how silly it all is.



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04 Jul 2012, 4:25 pm

Atomsk wrote:
They certainly didn't see the Spanish coming. I wouldn't be worried.


That's because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

I just felt like saying that, but there was a cartoon on Facebook that had one Mayan saying that they ran out of room to go past 2012, and the other says, "That's going to freak someone out someday."



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05 Jul 2012, 9:37 am

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After 2012, when the next date is selected, you'll see how silly it all is.


Anyone care to guess which the next date could be? I'm unaware of any others beyond 2012.


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