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15 Dec 2012, 11:02 pm

You keep posting the same thing ever since you joined Wrong Planet. I remember your first topic, back in 2010 (in fact, I was one of the first who replied to it). And another one you started in 2011. My reply is still the same: take care of your hygiene (specifically: bathe EVERY DAY and brush your teeth AT LEAST TWICE a day), find a job - ANY job - and try to at least finish High School and learn a profession. Almost everybody here has told you the same thing, but you keep ignoring us or finding an excuse to convince yourself that you are not capable of doing those simple things.

As many others have pointed out, judging by the way you write, you are not nearly as dumb as you believe you are. In fact, you write better than most people on the internet. And, despite your apparent bitterness, I have never seen you being rude to anybody, which means you are a much better person than I am (for comparison: the last time I was feeling down, I spent a whole weekend posting genocidal rants all over this forum). Those two traits are actually very useful in getting a job, as long as you take care of your hygiene (I really cannot stress that enough).

Even if you start taking those steps we are suggesting you to take, it is probably going to take a long time for you to get a girlfriend. But you will still feel much better (I also cannot stress that enough) and the sooner you start, the sooner you will find a girlfriend.

Once again, to make sure you read it:

1. Improve your hygiene (it is easy; you can do it if you want to);
2. find a job (a low paying job will be your only choice, but it will be better than nothing);
3. improve your education (at least High School. And try to learn a trade to get a better job);
4. after a few years, you will be a better, more independent person and could potentially find a girlfriend.


Did you get it all? No? OK, here it is again:

1. Bathe and brush your teeth regularly;
2. find ANY job;
3. finish High School and try to learn a profession;
4. meet the new, improved MR20 2.0!


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15 Dec 2012, 11:22 pm

Magnus_Rex wrote:
You keep posting the same thing ever since you joined Wrong Planet. I remember your first topic, back in 2010 (in fact, I was one of the first who replied to it). And another one you started in 2011. My reply is still the same: take care of your hygiene (specifically: bathe EVERY DAY and brush your teeth AT LEAST TWICE a day), find a job - ANY job - and try to at least finish High School and learn a profession. Almost everybody here has told you the same thing, but you keep ignoring us or finding an excuse to convince yourself that you are not capable of doing those simple things.

As many others have pointed out, judging by the way you write, you are not nearly as dumb as you believe you are. In fact, you write better than most people on the internet. And, despite your apparent bitterness, I have never seen you being rude to anybody, which means you are a much better person than I am (for comparison: the last time I was feeling down, I spent a whole weekend posting genocidal rants all over this forum). Those two traits are actually very useful in getting a job, as long as you take care of your hygiene (I really cannot stress that enough).

Even if you start taking those steps we are suggesting you to take, it is probably going to take a long time for you to get a girlfriend. But you will still feel much better (I also cannot stress that enough) and the sooner you start, the sooner you will find a girlfriend.

Once again, to make sure you read it:

1. Improve your hygiene (it is easy; you can do it if you want to);
2. find a job (a low paying job will be your only choice, but it will be better than nothing);
3. improve your education (at least High School. And try to learn a trade to get a better job);
4. after a few years, you will be a better, more independent person and could potentially find a girlfriend.


Did you get it all? No? OK, here it is again:

1. Bathe and brush your teeth regularly;
2. find ANY job;
3. finish High School and try to learn a profession;
4. meet the new, improved MR20 2.0!


1. Don't really know how to properly bathe myself, and even when I do I still smell apparently. This is going back to when I was in school. I might have a gland problem or something. It's hard going places knowing that I smell, and having people move from my general area. It's embarrassing.

2. What job? I can barely do the simplest tasks and I can't drive. You really think I can function and cooperate with full grown adults my age? Mentally I'm still a kid. My grandma still takes care of most of my situations.

3. Where would I start. If you read what I said, I was in special ed until I dropped out in the 9th grade. I didn't learn anything. Colleges would laugh at someone as slow and stupid as me. I can barely do simple time tables and fractions, and I have no clue about even basic algebra. Much more pathetic in other subjects

4. Why even bring women up? I can't even get guys to hang out with and respect me, no hope for a GF ever.



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16 Dec 2012, 2:30 am

MR20 wrote:
1. Don't really know how to properly bathe myself, and even when I do I still smell apparently. This is going back to when I was in school. I might have a gland problem or something. It's hard going places knowing that I smell, and having people move from my general area. It's embarrassing.

2. What job? I can barely do the simplest tasks and I can't drive. You really think I can function and cooperate with full grown adults my age? Mentally I'm still a kid. My grandma still takes care of most of my situations.

3. Where would I start. If you read what I said, I was in special ed until I dropped out in the 9th grade. I didn't learn anything. Colleges would laugh at someone as slow and stupid as me. I can barely do simple time tables and fractions, and I have no clue about even basic algebra. Much more pathetic in other subjects

4. Why even bring women up? I can't even get guys to hang out with and respect me, no hope for a GF ever.

1. If you do not bathe often, you will need to develop the habit before it really makes any effect. Just keep trying. Every day. Eventually, the smell will go away. i believe somebody already sent you this link in one of your previous topics, but here: http://www.misanthropytoday.com/how-to- ... e-for-men/

2. As I said: any job. I believe you can walk, talk, hold things in your hands and read. That should be enough for something simple like cleaning or stocking shelves.

3. Go back to special ed, then. You managed to get to 9th grade; you can probably finish it and proceed to 10th, 11th and 12th grades. The goal is just to have something to fill your resume: you will not have to use any of the s**t you learn there in real life, actually. Why? Because the educational system sucks, that is why. You are expected to learn useless things that you will forget and never use again. You might as well accept it and just get it over with.

4. I brought women up because you used to complain a lot about not getting women. But you are right: there is probably no hope for a girlfriend. I am in this situation too: my involuntary celibacy recently became voluntary. It sucks, but there are more important things in life.


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16 Dec 2012, 3:09 am

Something's not quite jiving here...


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16 Dec 2012, 8:23 am

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Something's not quite jiving here...


What?



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16 Dec 2012, 8:40 am

Magnus_Rex wrote:
3. Go back to special ed, then. You managed to get to 9th grade; you can probably finish it and proceed to 10th, 11th and 12th grades. The goal is just to have something to fill your resume: you will not have to use any of the sh** you learn there in real life, actually. Why? Because the educational system sucks, that is why. You are expected to learn useless things that you will forget and never use again. You might as well accept it and just get it over with.



I see you live in Brazil. I don't think you understand how the US education system works.

In Special Ed, kids get passed on to the next grade regardless of what they do. You could skip an entire semester and still pass in any grade. The teachers never taught anything really. Most of the time they had us copy entire pages out of text books for no reason at all, probably just to "kill time". Who learns anything doing that.

The teachers probably hated being there as much as we do.

It's mostly for slow/stupid kids that can't learn properly as "regular" kids. Also for kids that have mental disabilities/disorders.

I hated being in there so much, you were always looked down upon by the regular kids as "ret*ds" or "lowlifes".

Also, I don't think it's possible at my age (26) to go back to HS. (not that it would do any good)

I don't know how it is in Brazil, but legally you can't be in high school after age 20-21 or something like that.



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16 Dec 2012, 8:57 am

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I see you live in Brazil. I don't think you understand how the US education system works.

In Special Ed, kids get passed on to the next grade regardless of what they do. You could skip an entire semester and still pass in any grade. The teachers never taught anything really. Most of the time they had us copy entire pages out of text books for no reason at all, probably just to "kill time". Who learns anything doing that.

The teachers probably hated being there as much as we do.

It's mostly for slow/stupid kids that can't learn properly as "regular" kids. Also for kids that have mental disabilities/disorders.

I hated being in there so much, you were always looked down upon by the regular kids as "ret*ds" or "lowlifes".

Also, I don't think it's possible at my age (26) to go back to HS. (not that it would do any good)

I don't know how it is in Brazil, but legally you can't be in high school after age 20-21 or something like that.


Ahhh... OK. I thought it would be like normal education, but with accomodations for learning disabilities.

As for the age limit, there is not one in Brazil. If you are over 18 and has not finished school, there is the EJA - Ensino para Jovens e Adultos (roughly translated as "Schooling for Young People and Adults"), which is a condensed version of the normal curriculum where every grade lasts only a semester. I actually finished high school on EJA, because I was retained once on 9th and 10th grades. I am actually a huge nerd, but I was very unmotivated and spent my days at schools staring at the windows and not even taking my things out of the backpack. By the time I was 18, I just decided to finish the last two grades in the same year on EJA.


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16 Dec 2012, 9:41 am

Did you call someone yet? Do you plan to? Going on these threads and asking for help is useless if you have a chemical imbalance in your brain that prevents you from seeing the positive. Just go to your doctor and say that you are depressed. He/she can tell you how to get help and prescribe antidepressants.

If you don't, I will assume you are a troll and ignore this thread.



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16 Dec 2012, 10:09 am

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Did you call someone yet? Do you plan to? Going on these threads and asking for help is useless if you have a chemical imbalance in your brain that prevents you from seeing the positive. Just go to your doctor and say that you are depressed. He/she can tell you how to get help and prescribe antidepressants.

If you don't, I will assume you are a troll and ignore this thread.


That's what you're doing already. If you read through the thread you'd know I have problems doctors can't solve.


BTW, I like how you passive-aggressively ignored my problems, and went into the "mentally tough/get over it" attitude most people seem to have.

I can't "suck it up", "get over it", "deal with it", "put my big boy pants on" or whichever phrase you want to use.

I am low functioning, I lack the basic life skills you need to be a functioning member of society. THIS is NOT something a "doctor" is going to solve just by giving me pills.

I've been through all this before in my teens. They don't take time to talk to you. Most of the time they give you pills and send you on your way, not giving a f**k of what's wrong with you.

Now, I'm poor and I don't have medicaid. It's very expensive and it's pretty much impossible to get "help" w/o any money today.



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16 Dec 2012, 10:21 am

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That's what you're doing already. If you read through the thread you'd know I have problems doctors can't solve.


Is it to do with sex? Is that it? There are women (as there are men) who think about nothing but sex. If you can present yourself reasonably, have a sense of humour and aren't an a**hole you'll succeed eventually. You will.

Can you get yourself to any disability support group meetings? I know you have lots and lots of problems, and they may be very difficult for you (and I sympathise), but you have to work with what you have.



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16 Dec 2012, 10:31 am

Then go and see a psychologist who can help you get your life together. It's part of the treatment of depression. Trust me, it will help more than anyone on this forum.

I already gave you advice before and you are ignoring all of our advice. So stop trying the same thing as before, asking on forums, and instead go seek professional help if we cannot tell you what you want to hear.

I don't know where you are getting that I am telling you to suck it up or whatever you want to say. I'm saying go get help! You can't deal with this alone. If I was there I would call for you but I am not. So I am trying my best to get through to you how important it is to seek help through words, which I hope you appreciate is extremely hard to do.

http://psychcentral.com/lib/2006/where- ... epression/

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The most important thing anyone can do for the depressed person is to help him or her get an appropriate diagnosis and treatment.



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16 Dec 2012, 10:38 am

That's what's not jiving, IMO. Same thing every post.


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16 Dec 2012, 11:58 am

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My dad was a crackhead who tried to burn me alive when I was a baby, and my mother had a mental breakdown soon after she had me and my sister.

She has spent the last 20 years in a mental home for paranoid schizophrenia. My grandma raised me. I was raped when I was 6 by my cousin and I was physically abused by my uncle from my child hood to my early teens.

My life has been horrible.


Here is the underlying reason for all your problems and self-loathing and it is NOT YOUR FAULT that your dad, cousin and uncle were all abusive a**holes that have messed your life up by their evil actions. Possibly your mom had the breakdown due to your dad's actions too - she cannot help what happened to her.
"The evil that men do lives after them" - Shakespeare "Julius Caesar".

You are not as talentless as you imagine. As a number have said on this post, there are many really clueless people on the Internet. (NT news forums for a start...) You could even write about your bad experiences as many people have, and they have found it both therapeutic as well as remunerative!

You need to start with the courage to start getting your life in order slowly but surely. Do it to honour your granny who cares for you. At lease she is part of your moral support system, and so are some of us on this forum if you let them. But you have to start by acknowledging that what happened to you as a kid was not your fault and start to be defined by the present / future rather than the past. You should have received professional treatment many years ago.

Not being an American, I want to know if the new Obamacare system will benefit someone such as you who cannot afford the proper medical care you need? We have a fairly decent government healthcare system here in RSA - far form perfect, but it works.

There are very few problems that doctors can't solve these days. You won't know unless you seek the necessary treatment asap.



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16 Dec 2012, 6:54 pm

MR20 wrote:
That's what you're doing already. If you read through the thread you'd know I have problems doctors can't solve.


BTW, I like how you passive-aggressively ignored my problems, and went into the "mentally tough/get over it" attitude most people seem to have.

I can't "suck it up", "get over it", "deal with it", "put my big boy pants on" or whichever phrase you want to use.

I am low functioning, I lack the basic life skills you need to be a functioning member of society. THIS is NOT something a "doctor" is going to solve just by giving me pills.

I've been through all this before in my teens. They don't take time to talk to you. Most of the time they give you pills and send you on your way, not giving a f**k of what's wrong with you.

Now, I'm poor and I don't have medicaid. It's very expensive and it's pretty much impossible to get "help" w/o any money today.


I understand. I hear everything you're saying. You have received a lot of advice and have responded to it with why you can't do what people are advising you to do. And that's okay. I know how it feels when people are telling me to do something and I feel that I can't even do things that are much simpler.

So, I ask you, what are you looking for with this thread. Let us know how we can help you. Personally, I think you have amazing strength. It takes a lot of courage to endure your past and to share it with us. It takes a lot of strength to share your vulnerabilities and struggles.



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17 Dec 2012, 2:04 pm

John Merrick was ugly beyond description. Nick Vujicic has never had limbs. Helen Keller was deaf and blind. Peng Shuilin was cut in half at the waist. – These four people needed help of others, they received it, and they accepted it. What is it that makes you so special, MR20?



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17 Dec 2012, 2:20 pm

The only thing I find repulsive about MR20 is his endless wallowing in self pity. He's done it for years on this site and still gets away with it with new members until they get to know him better. Everyone tries to help him until they realise that he doesn't actually want any help and he slaps everyone in the face who tries; he just wants everyone to pity him and say "poor poor MR20 isn't it terrible for you".


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