What are some good ways to kill myself?

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chris5000
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21 Jun 2013, 4:14 pm

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Find someone else who is also suicidal.
Flip a coin to see who gets to murder who.
Do it in a hospital so your/their organs can be donated.
Do it in a place that has a death penalty, so the murderer will be put to death.

Failing that working out, try some professional help.


I doubt he'd be able to afford a professional hit-man.

if he goes to the 3rd world they are pretty cheap from what I have seen on TOR its something like 150 usd for a non important person in south America



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21 Jun 2013, 9:22 pm

Please don't kill yourself :(

And to the others posters, stop to give suggestions, it's disgusting. :evil:



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22 Jun 2013, 12:54 am

Read this book instead:

http://erinkyan.tumblr.com/post/17415703265/hello-cruel-world-book-pdf wrote:
There’s this book, called “Hello Cruel World: 101 Alternatives to Suicide for Teens, Freaks, and Other Outlaws”. It’s written by Kate Bornstein. It’s saved my life many times.

Now, not everyone has the spare $15 or however much it is to buy this book. And even if you DO have the money, buying it and having it shipped to you doesn’t necessarily help you if you need help RIGHT NOW.

So I’ve put a copy of the pdf in my dropbox. You can access it here:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/55233845/Kate%2 ... _World.pdf

It’s not a particularly good pdf but it’s readable. The symbols don’t work but that’s okay.

I don’t think Kate would mind too much about piracy in this case. If you need this book, then you need it, and it’s as simple as that. Lives are worth more than copyright.

If you do want to buy a copy, here are some links:

http://www.indiebound.org/book/9781583227206

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Hello-C ... 1583227206

http://www.amazon.com/Hello-Cruel-World ... 1583227202


And read this article:

http://healthland.time.com/2013/04/24/depressive-thinking-can-be-infectious/ wrote:
Depressive Thinking Can Be Contagious

We don’t think of emotional states as passing from one person to another, but a new study suggests some depressive thoughts can go viral.

Researchers studying a group of college students found that certain types of depressive thinking can spread from close-living roommates like a lingering flu.

Although many people see depression as a chemical imbalance in the brain, scientists say social context and the way you see yourself and the world can be critical in causing and sustaining the illness, which affects around 10% of college-age adults.

“Thinking styles are a really important factor in risk for depression,” says the study’s lead author Gerald Haeffel, associate professor of clinical psychology at Notre Dame University. “How one thinks about life stress and negative moods is one of the best predictors that we have of future depression.”

Haeffel and his colleagues recognized that starting life in a college dorm — with students transitioning from the familiarity of high school and family and venturing into a completely new social setting — would serve as an ideal real-world laboratory for studying how social connections and thinking styles of some students can influence others, and how these interactions can affect depression.

“For many freshmen, going to college is a seminal life transition,” he says. “They are moving away from home for the first time, and their social context is turned on its head. An important feature of our design was that students were randomly assigned to roommates. This means that students were not able to actively choose someone to live with. [They] had to live with a stranger who might have a completely different style of thinking.”

Previous research showed that depressive thinking styles tend to become stable and consistent by high school, and that they can increase risk of depression (without necessarily causing the condition) over an entire lifetime. “Cognitive vulnerability is not the same thing as depression,” says Haeffel. “Someone can have a cognitive vulnerability but not appear sad or gloomy. It can be thought of similarly as high blood pressure. High blood pressure is a risk for heart disease, but it does not mean the person has heart disease.”

Major life changes, however, like starting college and being exposed to new people, might serve as triggers for whether this risk factor crosses the threshold into becoming an actual depressive disorder, as Haeffel and his colleagues reported in their study, which was published in Clinical Psychological Science.

The authors recruited 108 incoming college freshmen at a private university in the Midwest, including 42 men with male roommates and 66 women with female roommates randomly assigned by the college. Within their first month of school, the students took an online survey about their thinking styles, stress exposure and depression symptoms. They were surveyed again online three months and six months later.

Haeffel and his team explored two types of thinking previously linked with depression. The first involved rumination or constant brooding about what’s going wrong. “A person who broods will focus on his or her negative mood,” says Haeffel. “[They] will think about how sad they feel, try to understand why [they] feel depressed and worry about the implications of their sadness. In contrast, someone who does not brood will tend to distract themselves when feeling sad, [for example, by exercising].”

The second depressive style that was examined is known as “hopelessness,” which Haeffel says “gets at the self-worth implications and consequences of an event.” For example, a person who feels hopeless might lose a job and see it as a personal failure and a sign that he will never be employable again. A more resilient person might blame the economy or see the situation as an opportunity to get a better position.

The researchers found that hopelessness was not contagious among roommates — but rumination was. Hopelessness focuses on the content of one’s own thoughts, which are likely deeply embedded and related to other perceptions about the self, and therefore might be less likely to influence the way other people think. Rumination, on the other hand, is a process that is probably easier to mirror by adopting the same focus on negative ideas or attention to sadness, as well as the constant discussion about this darker perspective.

Interestingly, depression symptoms themselves were not contagious: simply having a roommate with symptoms of the disorder did not increase risk of developing the mental illness. But those who picked up a ruminative style of thinking from their roommates during the first three months of school had more than double the number of depressive symptoms of those who either weren’t exposed to this perspective or didn’t adopt the rumination three months later. And the risk was magnified if they experienced high levels of stress.

The study also found, however, that healthy thinking was also contagious. “Those assigned to a roommate with a more positive thinking style developed a more positive style themselves whereas those assigned to a roommate with a negative style became more negative,” Haeffel says. The study could not determine what made a particular roommate’s style more likely to dominate and influence, rather than be influenced.

Such information could enhance the current findings and contribute to new ways of treating and preventing depression. The results suggest that depressive thinking styles can still be influenced during young adulthood — so this risk factor can be minimized even if it has already developed during high school or earlier. Targeting ruminative thinking might also enhance therapy.

“The therapist could assess if people in the patient’s life are modeling and providing adaptive cognitive feedback about stress and negative life events,” says Haeffel. “The therapist could then provide those with negative thinking styles with information about the contagion effect along with training that would help them identify negative thought patterns and provide examples of more adaptive ways of thinking.”

So while depressive thoughts can spread from person to person, making depression more contagious than previously thought, these perspectives can also be the focus of effective therapies that could, just as antiviral and antibacterial agents do, block them from taking hold.



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22 Jun 2013, 12:24 pm

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I always thought tying your gun to a big balloon would be a crazy idea, that way when you do the deed the gun floats away leaving a mystery for the policel


That was on an episode of CSI.


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23 Jun 2013, 12:46 am

Cilantro wrote, "Suicide disrespects one's potential by kowtowing to the situation when life has its origins in defiance all the way back to the first spark."

Brilliant. Did you write that?



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24 Jun 2013, 5:39 pm

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Just wondering what my options are.

1. Asphyxiation via carbon monoxide poisoning.

2. Drowning myself.

3. Could have some fun with knives.

4. Natural causes or random chance at an unspecified date. Might have a lot of pointless misery and a pointless life in the middle of it.

5. I could stop eating and drinking. Already good at this one.

I'm leaning towards number 4. Does anyone have any recommendations? Has anything really worked for people here?


1. Symptoms include: Vomiting, dizziness, tiredness, shortness of breath, death. You will spend your final moments slowly and painfully dying.
2. Death by drowning would be a terrifying way to die. When people try to suffocate themselves, their body will automatically go into panic mode and you will spend your final moments in utter terror.
3. Attempting to cut your arteries or veins has a surprisingly low morality rate and it's an excruciating and sloooooow way to die. Plus, cutting through tendons means that if you survive the attempt, well done - you've crippled yourself.
4. Yeah, you might even be able to get help while you wait for it
5. Death by starvation? Not the first time it's happened, but I promise you that if you don't snap and eat something, then you'll be force fed by medical professionals. You don't want that - nobody likes to be fed through a tube.

I think option 6 is better, honestly.



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24 Jun 2013, 6:05 pm

I don't mean for this to sound bad or anything but is tornado evil still with us?



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24 Jun 2013, 7:45 pm

whatevre do, dont try throwin yuorslf in a big fire and hopin yuoll burn, the pain is too mch and yuoll scarcly resist jumpin out and trying to put it uot. Tried it lastt week so taht attempt was f-ed up.


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24 Jun 2013, 8:14 pm

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I don't mean for this to sound bad or anything but is tornado evil still with us?


That's a very good question,I hope so.
I hope you are joking WildTaltos,that's not a very good way, unless you are a Tibetan lama with ALOT of training,and then only for a just cause.


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24 Jun 2013, 9:01 pm

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maia wrote:
I don't mean for this to sound bad or anything but is tornado evil still with us?


That's a very good question,I hope so.
I hope you are joking WildTaltos,that's not a very good way, unless you are a Tibetan lama with ALOT of training,and then only for a just cause.

wasnt jokin and i kno its not a good way becuse i cuoldnt do it and thats why ws teling him not to do taht, only acomplishd neding soem skin grafts


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24 Jun 2013, 10:54 pm

I'd like to say don't kill yourself but if you need to do it, i think most slower ways leave too much to chance. like choking or drowning your body's survival instinct would stop you. like you would back out like unless you tied yourself to a safe and fell off a bridge you would just pick your head up at the last minute and not drown. I would suggest a poison. the kind like cyanide that cause your blood cells to stop carrying oxygen. so your breathing but you still suffocate. I think the way to go is toss yourself off a high building. or jump in front a a train death on impact. or go blow something up. Don;t harm anyone cause thats wrong but blow up an empty government building cause they are screwing us all anyway. also you can always like do something so bad people want to kill you on site and then just yourself be killed.



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25 Jun 2013, 1:34 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
Suicide is a difficult thing to talk about especially for people like me who've made a serious attempt at it in the past. How do I keep the feeling from coming back? I don't. It's always there. I'm extremely avoidant, still, in the back of my mind I'm hoping to meet someone so I can focus on them instead of me.


Me too or at least get a stable job with good pay or win a fat lump some...get all the living animals I desire to have in my home and see how long I will be blissful. The animals and the spouse was the plan but doesn't seem very likely...

I know how my next attempt will be if I do it...my last one would have worked just fine if I didn't believe the lies people told me just so I'd go get medical help.


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25 Jun 2013, 5:55 pm

maia wrote:
I don't mean for this to sound bad or anything but is tornado evil still with us?


Yes



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25 Jun 2013, 6:10 pm

Good to hear.
Hope things are improving for you.



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25 Jun 2013, 7:13 pm

Yes what they said^



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25 Jun 2013, 7:21 pm

Watch this video, please: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ltun92Df ... tun92DfnPY

Here's a quote from it:

" if you can’t see anything beautiful about yourself
get a better mirror
look a little closer
stare a little longer
because there’s something inside you
that made you keep trying
despite everyone who told you to quit
you built a cast around your broken heart
and signed it yourself
you signed it
“they were wrong”
because maybe you didn’t belong to a group or a click
maybe they decided to pick you last for basketball or everything
maybe you used to bring bruises and broken teeth
to show and tell but never told
because how can you hold your ground
if everyone around you wants to bury you beneath it
you have to believe that they were wrong

they have to be wrong

why else would we still be here?
we grew up learning to cheer on the underdog
because we see ourselves in them
we stem from a root planted in the belief
that we are not what we were called we are not abandoned cars stalled out and sitting empty on a highway
and if in some way we are
don’t worry
we only got out to walk and get gas
we are graduating members from the class of
f**k off we made it
not the faded echoes of voices crying out
names will never hurt me

of course
they did

but our lives will only ever always
continue to be
a balancing act
that has less to do with pain
and more to do with beauty."