why do women have to be so mean and condecending
Like a record that gets stuck in it's track and can't be derailed because it's worn a rut so deep it can't be shaken loose.
Perhaps function is the wrong word.
It feels comfortable in that rut. That's the identity you've spent a lot of time building up for yourself, so of course it feels safe and familiar. Even if you've made yourself into the whiney victim who blames everyone else and has no hope. That's who you choose to be. Do you realise that?
It's all ego - "They (women) are doing this to me! (Poor little me). They're WRONG and I'm RIGHT! (I'm a better person than they are). I cannot see sense because I'm in my nice, deep, worn track of woe. I'm too scared to climb out because that would mean giving up my identity, which I've deluded myself into thinking is me!"
I wish I could bump you out of that track, but I know you won't get it. You're not ready to let go of your misery yet.

yep everything is my fault. we control 100% of everything in the world I make those women say that stuff, yep I have mind control.

leave me alone you're the deluded one who thinkgs you can control evertying in your life. when someone is less off then you its all their fault. that guy who got shot by the sniper well he did that not the sniper.
this is the same logic as saying women deserve to get raped for wearing tiny skirts.
I did my best to be the best person I am. I didn't make all those women say the things they do.
lots of things in life are done by other people. get with reality you don't live on this planet alone so its impossible for you to cause or do everything that happens in your life.
going report your post. as its against haven rules.
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to anyone else who wants to come in here and tell my I making it all up and its all my fault don't bother. i dont' see you going to other haven threads and telling them that.
why do you all defend mean people you've never even met. what makes people blame the guy and defend women.
bet if a woman made a post like this about guys emotionally abusering her or always telling her shes not thin enough you wouldn't blame her and say she did it all.
i should just quit my job and tell the company i'm done trying to find work. I'm so f*****g tired of everyting I do being ingored and being told evertying that happen to me is mad up that all those women are right. you don't even know them tyou don't see the constatn prolifes I do. you all have no f*****g idea about any of this but you chose to take their side and blame me. that's so f****d up.
take some old avice if you dont' have nothing nice to say to me don't say anything.
what does attiude have to do with any of this. depression isn't an attitude
if a bunch of people push you down over and over I'd like to see you keep postive. you might for the first 20 or so but after 300 you're not going to be postive. or if a bunch of people say mean stuff to you for being how you are.
I just wanted to vent after a conversation with female sort of online friend who upset me.
I don't go around blaming others on here for thier situations they find themselves in. I try to post postive things for them.
mean whats next you going go tell asp that its his fault for being homeless and pushed around. doubt for. this only seems to happen to worthless men who dare to complain about their situation with women. women can never do wrong they goddesses
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I think for the most part people in this thread are trying to help.
the one guy called me a whiney victim

I'm never going to have a good attitude abot being called worthess trash all the time by women. that isn't ever goint to happen same as I'm not going to have a good attitude about being forced to be alone for the rest of my life. those aren'things to be happy about.
videogames, shaving, tv, ball games are things to have good attitudes about.
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I think for the most part people in this thread are trying to help.
the one guy called me a whiney victim

You're missing the main point of what Raleigh is saying. You choose how you view yourself. You have more control than you think.
You're assuming you're going to be alone for your entire life, but there's no way you can know that.
Hey sly, if you see women are all mean creatures, stop expecting exceptions. If you admit there is no exception in your principles, then you are good to go. Just live as an ultimate loner dude until a woman suddenly creates your own exception. But don't expect that exception that's the key here.
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I think for the most part people in this thread are trying to help.
the one guy called me a whiney victim

You're missing the main point of what Raleigh is saying. You choose how you view yourself. You have more control than you think.
You're assuming you're going to be alone for your entire life, but there's no way you can know that.
I only repeat what so many people say about me. I reached a point where the trying to constantly resist what everyone says about me and fighit it became pointless. like a person constnatly saying the sky is red while everyone knows its blue and says so.
how do you challenge something most everyone says?
that makes it a fact, facts are things the majority got together and agreed is a fact. so if the majority say I'm worthless and unloveable thats a fact. how do i push back against that?
i'm seriously aasking. because i got tired and am just trying to accept it. I've gotten way to much negative renforcement and not near enough postive.
mean look here only like 5 people say positive stuff about me but so many more actively say bad things about me.
I was never a super self esteem person I wasn't always low but never super high. at least in high school I had a good group of firends around me saying positive things about me and liked being around me. I don't have that anymore just mostly negative. even women who supposely like me say I'm not good enough.
I don't think all women are mean creatures. just a lot are mean to those who they see as worthless.
its just frustrating. this post was a vent because this woman was being condescending to me.
I don't want to live much longer as a loner dude.
I don't quite understand the rest o.O
normal guy?
Ages ago, when I was trolling the net for women, my wise old grandfather told me to give it up and learn to be happy alone. He said that in his day (he meant like the 1930s, so quite a long time ago) men often married the wrong woman because they had done something stupid like get her pregnant, which back then resulted in "shotgun weddings"-and divorce wasn't an option. He was also worried about some of the same stuff you talk about, where women use sex against men. I was about your age.
Today, I realize he was right. I'm convinced that men have a biological need in their teens and twenties to date and have sex with lots of females in order to choose a mate suitable for reproduction. As men get older, the urge decreases, which may be why married couples stop having sex after 2 or 3 kids-the biological need has been filled. So, at 40 I don't have a need to look for women. I no longer care about biological urges, except in the most basic sense-oops, I am thinking about sex again, better empty the seminal ducts. So, your problem is not unique, and it's due to biology beyond your control.
Women, meanwhile, are wired to choose a mate who will be an excellent provider for their future kids. So, they only want rich men, because money means that they will be able to get food for their kids. This same instinct drives women to want muscular men (oooh, a man who will be able to work and get money!) and even violent men, who are perceived as being great hunters, since in the caveman days the strongest, most violent man was best able to get the meatiest tiger, meaning kids got fed. That he beats and rapes his concubines is of little consequence, since being able to eat well is a greater need.
We just can't wish biology and tens of thousands of years of evolution away, unfortunately. Women earn more than men in many cases, yet they still view themselves as nurturers of children, and men as hunters bringing home the bacon. You have the unfortunate status of beta male, the guy that alpha males and women who love them love to kick. In some cultures, beta males were sacrificed to the gods in some really gruesome ways (I'm thinking of the Aztecs, who would rip the beating hearts out of men's chests), so in some ways you're lucky. In Mormon Fundamentalism, betas are dumped in remote parts of the desert and left as buzzard food. So, chill out and try not to worry too much about human biology.
Like a record that gets stuck in it's track and can't be derailed because it's worn a rut so deep it can't be shaken loose.
Perhaps function is the wrong word.
It feels comfortable in that rut. That's the identity you've spent a lot of time building up for yourself, so of course it feels safe and familiar. Even if you've made yourself into the whiney victim who blames everyone else and has no hope. That's who you choose to be. Do you realise that?
It's all ego - "They (women) are doing this to me! (Poor little me). They're WRONG and I'm RIGHT! (I'm a better person than they are). I cannot see sense because I'm in my nice, deep, worn track of woe. I'm too scared to climb out because that would mean giving up my identity, which I've deluded myself into thinking is me!"
I wish I could bump you out of that track, but I know you won't get it. You're not ready to let go of your misery yet.

yep everything is my fault. we control 100% of everything in the world I make those women say that stuff, yep I have mind control.

leave me alone you're the deluded one who thinkgs you can control evertying in your life. when someone is less off then you its all their fault. that guy who got shot by the sniper well he did that not the sniper.
this is the same logic as saying women deserve to get raped for wearing tiny skirts.
I did my best to be the best person I am. I didn't make all those women say the things they do.
lots of things in life are done by other people. get with reality you don't live on this planet alone so its impossible for you to cause or do everything that happens in your life.
going report your post. as its against haven rules.
Ok.
I hope you find the happiness you deserve.
In the meantime I will try to get a grip on reality.
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A lot of men are like that. But not all of them.
That is exactly what I believed about all men for maybe 35 years. It's a good description of home. Mom used to warn me against love at first sight. My brothers saw women as waitresses etc. If attracted to a guy, I would run for the hills and if he followed, I'd be mean. Anything to save myself from this white-slaver (any man).
I've had years of therapy; it's safe to approach now. I'm only 64.
I truly never believed any man had feelings or could be in good faith. You make me think I should do Step X - Make Retribution - yikes, that a lot of trying remember. But coming out here might be a start.
Advice: If you speak and she doesn't answer, give up immediately.
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