This issue still perplexes me. Seriously. Can we discuss it?

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But the responses here give me the impression that many of us would not see that, or the details in your linked post, as the "first step". Did you not have to overcome existing problems with EF, depressive apathy, resistance to change, etc. in order to begin this first stage; to feel that you had the strength to make such changes; so that you could keep your mind focused on the research?

PS) I'm not intending to antagonise you in any way. I find the topic interesting because I think it's useful to examine not only the advice we give, but also to identify how best to give it, or what strategies people might use to make taking such advice seem less daunting in the general case.

No.

First, I had to hit rock bottom. I seem to have a tendency to hit medical extremes before finally figuring things out. In this instance, my ASD & other symptoms were off the charts. I had the WORST imaginable suicidal depression that continuously worsened for 5+ months. Same with sky high anxiety so bad I couldn't breathe. A close friend suggested I needed to accept being different. I can accept being different, I could not accept that. I could Not live my life like that. I was willing to do ANYTHING to be healthier; to not think those thoughts nor feel that way. I was running out of the most powerful coping mechanisms I use to get through anything. I had No choice in the matter. I HAD TO do whatever it took - I was willing to do whatever it took.

I know everyone feels like their worst depression of their life is worse than anyone else' blah blah but honest to God I feel like that's one major differentiator between myself and others - others here on the forums, and even my own family members. I went through such a living hell that it was a relatively simple decision to stick to a disciplined regiment to change & heal. There was no f*****g way I was EVER going back to that state of mind & being if I could avoid it. I truly feel like that was my "mortality motivation," moment. Some have it come to them in a near miss car accident and realize they could die, so they may as well truly start living. For me, it was change or die because there was no f*****g way I could carry on like that for the rest of my life - or for very much longer, as I said, I nearly exhausted the coping mechanisms I use to get myself through absolutely anything no matter how tough it is.. I didn't know how much longer I could last. Fortunately I learned what I needed to know & was able to rapidly recover. And now here I am today, living a second life for having done it.. and while I have my sights set on an ambitious future, all of that mess seems like a distant past life now. It was only ~6 short years ago.

Or at least my internalized reaction to my state of being was so strong that it helped me make the very easy choice to do whatever it took, even if others endure even more horrific thoughts & emotions. Doesn't really matter, the net result is the same. I was scared as f**k & didn't want to die, so, I was willing to do whatever it took.

@goldfish this thread has too much text for me to sift through, so forgive me if this has already been asked and answered. Is this a cure for autism thing and if so, who else besides you has this worked on?

I wouldn't think of this as a "cure." I would consider this more a "treatment."

Like Tylenol is a treatment for a cold---but it doesn't "cure" the cold.

Right so constant maintenance. And it's this worked for me so it should work for everyone else I'm guessing.

I feel that Goldfish should make a list of the things he uses, rather than put all those things into paragraphs. It would make it a lot easier to read.

He should, especially, make a list of the ingredients he uses so experts in nutrition and diet could chime in.

The methods that have been used on you, Ezra, have worked quite well, it seems to me.

You mean the mud baths and leaches?

They even used leeches in the Vietnam War to stitch wounds. The mud baths in Vietnam were of the natural variety.

For the umpteenth time, it's not a cure. It's a very effective treatment protocol & diet that allow me to function as highly as I do. Work, play, live. Happier, healthier, wealthier.

That's the point of this thread. 4+ years on and several people have messaged me about trying some of it for themselves or their children, but exactly zero others have tried to do exactly as I do to see if it works for them. That's the perplexing part, that in 4+ years of me sharing how life changing this is and not one single person here has opted to try it - yet many complain about their ASD, depression, anxiety and other symptoms to the extent that they wish they did not have ASD or, even worse, are extremely suicidal. It's downright bizarre to me that none of these people would opt to try something that I've been sharing has worked wonders for me for 4+ years now & allows me to live the second life that I am.

To each their own and all that, and I'm going to live my life to the fullest regardless of what anyone else here does or doesn't do. But it just seems so weird to me that people would complain about their state of being to the extent that they want to die but aren't willing to try something that someone else here (me) has been sharing with the group as an effective treatment. It's also odd that for all of those who say I'm a liar or that this is a hoax (right, I've perpetuated a lifelong hoax for my amusement..) that not one person has decided to try it to prove that it doesn't work for them & to be able to report so back to the forum and say they followed it to a T & the end result was nothing, so don't waste your time or energy. Instead those that don't believe just simply don't believe me for not believing me's sake as far as I can tell, because they certainly have no first hand experience to go off of if they've never done what I do.

It could work for everyone else. No one else is going to know without trying it.

I did list them near the bottom of the long post I made 4+ years ago and the general consensus here was "Herbs? Spices? Oils? Teas? Probiotics? Sounds like they taste like placebos to me." Meanwhile I wonder where these people think manufactured forms of medicine come from.. nearly every pharmaceutical is derived from a plant.

This is a different crowd than 4 or so years ago.

I believe it would be useful if you list them.

What have you got to lose?

Time/effort/energy? Seems wasted when it's ignored or criticized for the sake of criticism vs. constructively discussed.

The diet & protocol, with the exception of a few tweaks over the years, has been written in black & white here on WP for more than 4 years and there have been exactly zero people who've opted to try it in it's entirety to treat their symptoms. It seems people here just want to complain forever about all the things they hate about ASD vs. trying to do anything about it.

I've already posted the link to my old thread in this thread. It's also not difficult to search for as the title is "this is how I've been treating myself with miraculous results."

You know this: people aren't going to go back four years to search for old posts.

Even if one person benefits, I feel like you should, at least, re-send the 4 year old post.

If you don't want to put forth time/effort/energy, it seems kinda likely no one else would either. After scanning though a great deal of text posted by yourself and others, I finally spotted a link buried within all that. That's why I wasn't sure what this thread was about exactly. And really you're coming off as being kinda disdainful about how lazy and unwilling everybody is to get in on this and they just want to keep whining etc, or at least that's the vibe I'm getting.

I posted a direct link to it in this thread.

Here it is again:

http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5766346