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Of course I don't mind it at all if people collect antique guns.

They are not "assault" weapons, and there's beauty and history to them, too.

I like those guns which the Pilgrims supposedly used----which had a front which looked like a bugle.

I also like those old "flintlock" type guns---for aesthetic value only. Flintlocks really sucked a lot of the time when they were actually put to use.

Hey not assault weapons, that’s a made up term. Is your baseball bat an asault bat if you don’t play baseball? What about assault cars?, assault knifes, assault sticks, assault rocks.

The USA military can not legally operate on us soil except to defend against foreign threats. I doubt most navy seals would follow orders to kill us citizens who are protecting the constitution thst navy seals swear an oath to protect especially since the people will be ex navy seals too.

Except that’s never happen. Just like a student here in college has never flipped out after getting a f and shot their teacher, and there are gun battles in the streets after allowing concealed carry like liberals said too, every single situation liberals use to justify banning guns has never happen, it’s all lies.

The violence? I dont know maybe from all the kids with single young parents who want to be their friend instead of a parent, it’s not just guns. Read the news this new generation is horrible. Some guy raped a teen girl as she was dying fro, overdose fill,ed and took pictures as he did, used her hand to unlock her phone to post them online, then dumped her body in his trash bin after he was done with her and went to work where he bragged about it. The there’s the kids who filmed and mocked s disabled man as he drowned. The lady who killed her sister in a car accident then filemed her dead body and laughed about it. Could it be we’ve unleashed our kids and they’ve become desensitized, unpunished kids with zero morals who do to technology only see themselves as human and everyone else doesn’t matter? I dont know probably. They too selfish and unconnected. I could never do any of those things. I’d taken that lady to a hospital. She broke up with her bf, this guy got her high so he could rape her and though it was fantastic having sex with a dying girl. So again is it guns or our horrible society? Our society is so utter messed up from liberal ideas, the whol sjw stuff is dividing us too. We aren’t Americans now we Asian, white, black, Latino, etc. we’ve lost our way as society, only money matters. My generation was going over the edge, but the one after mine went over, I could see it even as I was in high school, they were so disrespectful compared to mine, my friends noticed too. We were like dam theses incoming freshmen are super disrespectful and cursing all the time. I ride the bus and it’s horrible when they get on, they loud, curse, insult other riders, half the time the driver has to stop and kick them off. They also sneak on the back door a lot to avoid paying. Their kids when they grow up will be even worse. We are screwed.

First under the law you want passed they are assault weapons.
2. There not assault weapon, irs a fake term anti gun people made up in the 90s with the goal to make regular people think they mean machine guns. Since a machine gun is an asault rifle. So assault weapon sounds like assault rifle. Hence why regular people say they just want to ban machine guns, and we have to explain, no machine guns are already banned they want to ban simi auto guns, which most regularly people are like oh well no I don’t want simi automguns banned.

Almost every single gun is an asault weapon under the law they want. Almost every single one.

1911 made in 1911 it’s an asault weapon, Luger pistol, asault weapon , 1945 sks, it’s an assault weapon. That shot gun for clay shooting , it’s an asault weapon. That 10/22 kids rifle it’s yiu guess it an assault weapon. Mean while we can still buy actual machine guns. Even after they ban everything else.
My ar15 isn’t an asault weapon, assault weapons don’t exist. There aren’t a military term and didn’t exist legally until some stupid anti gun made it up, now they say weapon of war again to trick you into picturing a full auto machine gun. They banned ww2 guns we lended to Korea from reimportTiom saying they weapons of war. Regular people be like year we shouldn’t let m60 machine guns back in
Here’s the weapons of war they banned from reimport one in the middle is an asault weapon under the proposed ban. Look how evil it is made in good o America in 1940s
All of them used to kill nazis and defend people and freedom now they evil weapons.

I’m starting to think most people shouldn’t have the right to vote.

Sorry, but in the end I’m not comfortable having Jimmy John Bob have rifles that shouldn’t be referred to as assault rifles but are rifles capable of assault stashed in his trailer that’s next to his meth lab.

So then you don’t anyone to have any guns. Assault is an action any gun can be used to assault someone.

I keep my ar15 loaded with two 40 rounds mag next to my bed.

Anyways I didn’t want a gun control argument thread

What happened with the car thing?

I disagree with that for the most part.

However if someone is on disability due to mental health, and it can be shown it would not be safe for them to have a gun then they probably shouldn't. Of course that should not be permanent, if a person receives help and becomes mentally stable and is managing their condition then I think they should be allowed, but maybe with the condition they will at lest temporarily surrender the firearm if their mental health starts to deteriorate again.

Not sure how realistic that idea is, but yeah to just say anyone on disability should be barred from owning a gun doesn't really make sense.

Why exactly? And have you actually gone and practiced shooting it?

Western Oregon is not South Central Los Angeles.

That’s the current du process system. You get taken to court and have you hiering where you can atleast defend yourself. The government has to prove that your a danger to others. What some are pushing for is “oh you’re a aspie, no guns for you. If you disagreee you can spend tens of thosuands of dollars fighting us in court to get your rights back”

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Home defense. The 223 round is far less likely to penatrate walls or over penatrate the bad guy. It’s also lighter recoil and more accurate thus reducing missed shot chances.
80 rounds for if it’s multiple people and two mages Incase one malfunctions causing a jam. Procedure dictates you clear the mag, drop it, clear gun, insert new mag, load. Magazine issues are not something to be deallt with in a defense situation. Same reason I and others carry multiple mags with our carry gun. Ar15 is the idea defense gun for the home. Pistols and shotguns are more likely to over penatrate. Either way I’ll be aiming someone down if I can.
When I go shooting I take it and put 100 rounds at least though it and my carry gun.
It’s also the gun I have people new to guns shoot. For offensive use most people will want a 7.62 round.
I’ve done a lot of research on penatratetion
I’m also considering getting some fragmenting ammo for it if I can ever find any

I’ll make sure to tell the criminal that as he beats me to death.

I'm with Sweetleaf on this aspect of gun ownership.

This is just one great big "WTF?"

There's a reason why our laws here dictate that guns need to have trigger locks on them, then be locked inside a safe, and ammo locked up separately.

Leaving loaded guns around is how accidents happen. Someone picks up that gun and all of the sudden they've shot themselves or someone else. You never intended for that to happen, but that's how accidents with firearms happen.. irresponsible owners leaving them laying around loaded & ready to fire. That's terribly irresponsible IMO.

Like guns. Own guns. Shoot guns. etc. Just be responsible about it - not like this.

a reminder for all that this is the haven and not PPR....