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auntblabby
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05 Jun 2018, 8:43 pm

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But why....when you have so many virtues? There's a lot of low self-esteem going on tonight on WP. What is making everybody so down?


thank you :flower: it is [at least in my case] not so much "low self esteem" as it is reducing my existential expectations to that which can be supported with the tools at my disposal. I realize that I am just as much a child of the universe as the next guy, it is just that the rules of the game are rigged to suit people in a different category than myself.



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06 Jun 2018, 12:18 am

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But why....when you have so many virtues?

There's a lot of low self-esteem going on tonight on WP.

What is making everybody so down?


Being alone forever. I make fox noises, I’m super skiddish of any sudden noises or movements, I’m super shy. I’m super super sad. I’m rather mute too from hardly using my voice besides making fox noises when scared from sudden noises or movements. Bet that’d be super thrilling to women :(



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06 Jun 2018, 11:45 am

Ya never know, Sly. One of the things I really like about my husband is that he is quiet and doesn't need to fill the silence with a bunch of talk. :D


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06 Jun 2018, 11:46 am

The Blaze is back! :D



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06 Jun 2018, 6:04 pm

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Ya never know, Sly. One of the things I really like about my husband is that he is quiet and doesn't need to fill the silence with a bunch of talk. :D


I’m quite the talker when with people. I’m just always alone. I dont know how I’d be with a gf:/



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06 Jun 2018, 6:14 pm

I think you'd be okay, Sly. I really do. Honest.

That's what I think.



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08 Jun 2018, 3:24 am

Nope I’m horrible and worthless
, men’s only value is how much money they make.



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08 Jun 2018, 5:41 am

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Nope I’m horrible and worthless, men’s only value is how much money they make.

no offense, but I must beg to differ. we're human beings above all, and no human is intrinsically more human than any other. we are all equally human, even if some don't act like it or act less like it than we do. :alien: this includes YOU! we don't have to meet with anybody else's approval, but that one person who stares back at us in the mirror.



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08 Jun 2018, 5:54 am

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Nope I’m horrible and worthless
, men’s only value is how much money they make.



You are being far too hard on yourself. And i think you are maybe lonely because you are looking in all the wrong places. Your expectations of having a partner who will only care for the money you make and flash rings and wedding is an expectation of something that probably doesn't exist.

Turn off your filter, and you may just find that the world is full of wonderful ladies who are yearning for a decent guy to shower them with emotion and kindness, not money or material promises they cant keep. Love does not cost a penny for those with rich hearts :)

Chest out, sly. Back straight, shoulders back. Woo them with your charm, not your wallet ;)


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08 Jun 2018, 6:07 am

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Nope I’m horrible and worthless
, men’s only value is how much money they make.
I've always preferred men to women, not all men to all women but as a whole I find them easier to relate to. This is not only an autistic thing, very few NT women would want to live in an all female environment and not for financial reasons.

There's a lot of pretense and competition among ones own sex, I think.



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12 Jun 2018, 2:12 pm

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Nope I’m horrible and worthless
, men’s only value is how much money they make.


Definitely not true.

If they look good naked & enjoy sex they can be of immeasurable value to me or others.


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12 Jun 2018, 2:27 pm

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sly279 wrote:
Nope I’m horrible and worthless
, men’s only value is how much money they make.



You are being far too hard on yourself. And i think you are maybe lonely because you are looking in all the wrong places. Your expectations of having a partner who will only care for the money you make and flash rings and wedding is an expectation of something that probably doesn't exist.

Turn off your filter, and you may just find that the world is full of wonderful ladies who are yearning for a decent guy to shower them with emotion and kindness, not money or material promises they cant keep. Love does not cost a penny for those with rich hearts :)

Chest out, sly. Back straight, shoulders back. Woo them with your charm, not your wallet ;)


Still confused by your niceness and been depressed so sorry I haven’t replied sooner.

I look on dating sites and at work. But I see how women react twhen me on the bus or at stores and it’s the same sadly.

Not only money I’m sure they want a nice guy who they get along with but any such guy has to have his life together(good job, car home) in able to even be considered.
It exists women here have said they won’t date men who are well off enough. And nearly every woman’s profile on dating site says so too, and ones who don’t tell me it in message. I don’t use any filters on dating sites besides age range.

True love doesn’t but love is dead, relationships today are just a business partnerships. With women saying how will this guy effect my end goal how will he ad to my retirement package, what’s his future prospects, it’s so so terrible. They don’t love their bf they love his life status and if that disappears they’re probably split or divorce, which is why over half the population is single and divorce rat s are so high. Society kills love in the USA. It thought everyone it’s all about being well off so you buy stuff stuf and more stuff. If women marry poor guys how will they buy stuff from companies? So society tells girls that poor men ar bad and to marry up. Parents scold or forbid their daughters dating poor men with no future and tell them to dat well off men. Society hates poor men. Our society is all about money money money. It’s sad and sickening. Love only exist in movies now.

How do I do that if they refuse to even talk to me unless I have my life together? 0.o
I’m sure lots of women would get along with me fine if they’d let me talk to them. I’ve seen tons of women’s profiles where I meet all the rest of what they desire except job car and home, I see women I’d love to talk to who have so much in common with me it who say don’t message me unless you have a good job and car and own place. Women who I add are working min wage or no job and living at their parents rent free.

I honestly just feel hopeless.
And the relationship I need is the type people have in their 20s



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12 Jun 2018, 2:46 pm

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True love doesn’t but love is dead, relationships today are just a business partnerships. With women saying how will this guy effect my end goal how will he ad to my retirement package, what’s his future prospects, it’s so so terrible. They don’t love their bf they love his life status and if that disappears they’re probably split or divorce, which is why over half the population is single and divorce rat s are so high. Society kills love in the USA. It thought everyone it’s all about being well off so you buy stuff stuf and more stuff. If women marry poor guys how will they buy stuff from companies? So society tells girls that poor men ar bad and to marry up. Parents scold or forbid their daughters dating poor men with no future and tell them to dat well off men. Society hates poor men. Our society is all about money money money. It’s sad and sickening. Love only exist in movies now.


Wtf? Who are you to decide that people aren't in love with each other just because they're gainfully employed and enjoying things money can buy like healthy food, a roof over their head, a car to drive, a vacation once in a while, and striving to save & invest for their retirement together? That's downright bizarre to assume, sly.

Further, people who are financially well off don't necessarily buy into consumer culture and just surround themselves with things & constantly buy gifts for their gf. I know plenty of people with TONS of money who spend very little of it on material possessions. They live rather minimalist lifestyles. Buying a bunch of crap they don't need is what relatively poor people do who think that material possessions are the path to happiness.

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How do I do that if they refuse to even talk to me unless I have my life together? 0.o


How about rather than ask yourself that for another few years you spend your time & effort getting your life together instead? I bet you'd achieve a far better result.

IMO, a part of your issue is that you don't like to work. You don't want to work on yourself, you say things like "Oh yay, who wants tools for a gift? That means you have to do work." People are attracted to hard working people who enjoy work, whether it's at a job for money, or at home to clean or maintain things, or on themselves to improve their fitness level or even mental health. But you seem to want to do as little as humanly possible while expecting to receive the same results as those who are willing to work their asses off. You can't have it both ways & that's just reality.


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12 Jun 2018, 5:15 pm

work sucks, it has always sucked, I just don't get what is so enjoyable about most work? for most of us it is time-sucking drudgery at best. the top 20% are lucky in that they get to have something resembling fun and get paid [richly] for it, but for 99% of us it is just various flavors of toil [lower half of the 80%] and time-wasting [upper half].



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12 Jun 2018, 5:38 pm

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work sucks, it has always sucked, I just don't get what is so enjoyable about most work? for most of us it is time-sucking drudgery at best. the top 20% are lucky in that they get to have something resembling fun and get paid [richly] for it, but for 99% of us it is just various flavors of toil [lower half of the 80%] and time-wasting [upper half].


:?

How about the sense of accomplishment from creating something, building something, finishing a project etc? Or simply the good feeling of having earned an honest day's pay for an honest day's work? Or knowing your one day closer to a financial goal. Or even simply the feeling of sore muscles from hard work, which makes you stronger, fitter, and better looking too.. so many good things about doing work, and if your work is completely meaningless and unfulfilling to you, do different work!


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12 Jun 2018, 5:51 pm

in my working years in the rat race, I was simply too wore out at the end of my 12+ hour shifts to do much of anything else but recover. the work wrecked my health from which I am still not fully recovered. school is expensive south of the border and student loans are a millstone around the neck of which I have chosen to do without. no real social mobility down here for most of us. if there were, it is highly likely that Sly wouldn't have been posting about such all this time.