Will I go to hell for practicing witch craft?

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15 Apr 2019, 10:52 am

You only, ONLY end up in Hell as long as you have deliberately done severe wrongdoings and felt no remorse for them. Doing witchcraft for the right reasons, well.... as long as you're not a Satanist, then it doesn't matter.

For some reason, people have viewed firearms and explosives a "evil" just as much as how people viewed magic and witchcraft as "evil", but, really, they're tools, for crying out loud! :roll:


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15 Apr 2019, 12:16 pm

You didn't cause a flood, "witchcraft" is just a hobby, you're not going to hell.

There's no need to torture yourself, the world is nasty enough as it is.


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15 Apr 2019, 1:39 pm

There were other times I though I was being smart like this and later concluded I was in the wrong. Hopefully Im just kind of dumb.



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15 Apr 2019, 1:45 pm

I think my meds are working because I used to think I could communicate with people through youtube, through space and time. I used to think a lot of weird things that I dont anymore. Also Im not manic anymore.

The thing that sucks is I cant cry unless I watch a sad film. I used to be able to cry at the drop of a hat, when I wasnt on antipsychotics.

I know I sound nuts. But life has been so difficult that it just seems like something isnt right.



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15 Apr 2019, 7:43 pm

Sarahsmith wrote:
I think my meds are working because I used to think I could communicate with people through youtube, through space and time. I used to think a lot of weird things that I dont anymore. Also Im not manic anymore.

The thing that sucks is I cant cry unless I watch a sad film. I used to be able to cry at the drop of a hat, when I wasnt on antipsychotics.

I know I sound nuts. But life has been so difficult that it just seems like something isnt right.


You don't sound that crazy, more like you're in a phase of figuring out what you even believe in. I mean plenty of people are openly christian and don't have their sanity questioned. A person can have spiritual beliefs/ideas and still live a rational life so I certainly don't think, thinking about that stuff means your meds aren't working or anything like that.

That said spiritual beliefs that involve you blaming yourself for a flood because you wished the world would flood, probably aren't healthy because no one has that much control over the world. Or feeling guilt about a past life, I mean if that's a real thing then all you can do about it is try to live a better life this time right?

I myself am thinking there probably isn't an afterlife and so dwelling on death and there being nothing after that certainly doesn't help anything. If that is the case I might as well try to get as much as I can out of life before that happens.


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15 Apr 2019, 8:25 pm

Thats what I was thinking. Why cant I just be a person with strange beliefs. I guess thinking I started a flood with my mind does sound a bit paranoid. Just thought it was too much of a coincidence that it happend right after I was thinking about it.



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15 Apr 2019, 11:55 pm

I remember once when watching kids shooting hoops at school, thinking I could control the basketball with my mind. It was pretty convincing because the ball did and did not go though the hoop in correlation to my thoughts. To this day if something is starting to fall over or roll off a table, I'll mentally command it to stop and it often does.



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15 Apr 2019, 11:58 pm

Sarahsmith wrote:
Thats what I was thinking. Why cant I just be a person with strange beliefs. I guess thinking I started a flood with my mind does sound a bit paranoid. Just thought it was too much of a coincidence that it happend right after I was thinking about it.


I think having strange beliefs is perfectly fine as long as they don't cause problems for you.



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16 Apr 2019, 1:54 am

EzraS wrote:
Sarahsmith wrote:
Thats what I was thinking. Why cant I just be a person with strange beliefs. I guess thinking I started a flood with my mind does sound a bit paranoid. Just thought it was too much of a coincidence that it happend right after I was thinking about it.


I think having strange beliefs is perfectly fine as long as they don't cause problems for you.

I think this is very wise.
Anxiety and guilt over things totally outside of your control are problems when they are this big.


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18 Apr 2019, 9:54 pm

Sarahsmith wrote:
Thats what I was thinking. Why cant I just be a person with strange beliefs.


All religious/spiritual beliefs can sound strange or downright nuts depending on how you word them. Most of them tend to overlap or straight up took things from older belief systems, rebranded them and put them in their newer one. So I don't really find you 'mixing' beliefs all that strange. Believe what feels right to you.

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I guess thinking I started a flood with my mind does sound a bit paranoid. Just thought it was too much of a coincidence that it happend right after I was thinking about it.


You're applying chaos theory...or the butterfly effect (a phenomenon when a small localized change in a complex system can have a large effect somewhere else) to yourself. But it doesn't apply when what the small thing that happened was your thought. We puny humans - whether psychic abilities are real or not, are not quite so powerful. I do believe there can be power in our thoughts but it's by no means that direct or strong. The power in our thoughts is far more about ruling ourselves.

Going back to your original post, this is actually not a question that other's can answer. We can give you answers from our perspective - as I did in my earlier post but you're the one that has to figure out what you think witch craft is and by the means you used it. If you believe in hell and you believe used an 'evil' craft then, it would make sense that you may go to hell for it.

Edit: Also in response to some other posts: one can be a witch and not be wiccan. One can also be a Christian witch. And most faiths/spirituality have some form/idea of karma in them. The three fold rule would be the most well known witch version


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18 Apr 2019, 10:25 pm

Sarahsmith wrote:
Am I going to hell?

hell no! :twisted:



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19 Apr 2019, 10:06 am

Alterity wrote:
Sarahsmith wrote:
Thats what I was thinking. Why cant I just be a person with strange beliefs.


All religious/spiritual beliefs can sound strange or downright nuts depending on how you word them. Most of them tend to overlap or straight up took things from older belief systems, rebranded them and put them in their newer one. So I don't really find you 'mixing' beliefs all that strange. Believe what feels right to you.

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I guess thinking I started a flood with my mind does sound a bit paranoid. Just thought it was too much of a coincidence that it happend right after I was thinking about it.


You're applying chaos theory...or the butterfly effect (a phenomenon when a small localized change in a complex system can have a large effect somewhere else) to yourself. But it doesn't apply when what the small thing that happened was your thought. We puny humans - whether psychic abilities are real or not, are not quite so powerful. I do believe there can be power in our thoughts but it's by no means that direct or strong. The power in our thoughts is far more about ruling ourselves.

Going back to your original post, this is actually not a question that other's can answer. We can give you answers from our perspective - as I did in my earlier post but you're the one that has to figure out what you think witch craft is and by the means you used it. If you believe in hell and you believe used an 'evil' craft then, it would make sense that you may go to hell for it.

Edit: Also in response to some other posts: one can be a witch and not be wiccan. One can also be a Christian witch. And most faiths/spirituality have some form/idea of karma in them. The three fold rule would be the most well known witch version


I think it was black magic. But I never wanted anyone to get hurt from it. I wasnt even sure if it would work. I wish I could talk to this with my mom. But she might think Im going crazy again.
Didnt really think things through.



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19 Apr 2019, 10:39 am

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I think it was black magic. But I never wanted anyone to get hurt from it. I wasnt even sure if it would work. I wish I could talk to this with my mom. But she might think Im going crazy again.
Didnt really think things through.

As I previously stated, I don't believe your spell caused the flood.
Even if it did - the best thing you can do now is to learn on your mistakes and think things through before taking action.
We all make mistakes and we all sometimes unintentionally harm others. The best thing to do about it is learn to avoid repeating our mistakes.


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19 Apr 2019, 11:08 am

Can you cast a spell that doubles my money?



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19 Apr 2019, 11:15 am

Alterity wrote:
Sarahsmith wrote:
Thats what I was thinking. Why cant I just be a person with strange beliefs.


All religious/spiritual beliefs can sound strange or downright nuts depending on how you word them. Most of them tend to overlap or straight up took things from older belief systems, rebranded them and put them in their newer one. So I don't really find you 'mixing' beliefs all that strange. Believe what feels right to you.

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I guess thinking I started a flood with my mind does sound a bit paranoid. Just thought it was too much of a coincidence that it happend right after I was thinking about it.


You're applying chaos theory...or the butterfly effect (a phenomenon when a small localized change in a complex system can have a large effect somewhere else) to yourself. But it doesn't apply when what the small thing that happened was your thought. We puny humans - whether psychic abilities are real or not, are not quite so powerful. I do believe there can be power in our thoughts but it's by no means that direct or strong. The power in our thoughts is far more about ruling ourselves.

Going back to your original post, this is actually not a question that other's can answer. We can give you answers from our perspective - as I did in my earlier post but you're the one that has to figure out what you think witch craft is and by the means you used it. If you believe in hell and you believe used an 'evil' craft then, it would make sense that you may go to hell for it.

Edit: Also in response to some other posts: one can be a witch and not be wiccan. One can also be a Christian witch. And most faiths/spirituality have some form/idea of karma in them. The three fold rule would be the most well known witch version


It is NOT chaos theory, nor the butterfly effect.

Its thinking that your thoughts directly control things. Two different thngs.

A small thing - like stepping on a bug in Iowa causing the whole ecosystem of Iowa to change and effect this and that, and influencing the weather over the continent, and effecting the planet, and so and so and so, and then causing a flood in Bangladesh. That's the butterfly effect. No magic is involved. Thinking ABOUT floods, and then thinking that thinking about floods caused an actual flood in Bangladesh is believing that your thoughts directly control things (through no intermediate effects in nature) is magical thinking. Not the same thing. Magical thinking and the chaos theory not even similar things.

The butterfly effect does not involve intension either. The theory does not include thinking that a person steps on a bug with the intent to cause a flood on the other side of the planet.

Hypothetically- if you were thinking about something other than floods, and unrelated to floods, like worrying about getting fired from your job- and you did it while driving. And you were so distracted that you caused an accident, and killed a child, and that child would have grown up to be the next Einstein who would've found a way to stop comets from hitting the earth, and twenty years from now a comet hit the earth and caused a global flood that would not have happened if you hadn't greased that child back then- then that would be an example of your thoughts being part of a butterfly effect. :lol:



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19 Apr 2019, 12:47 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Can you cast a spell that doubles my money?


This.

Sarah

I want you to repeat the following sentence to yourself..over and over again:

"Put a million dollars into the bank account of Naturalplastic...put a million dollars into the bank account of Naturalplastic...Put a …"

Since you are apparently so powerful that your thoughts kick ass within one day I will be happy to report to you tomorrow when the above mantra kicks in with its effect.

It will prove how powerful you are!

:lol: :lol: :lol: