I wish there was an alternative earth-world

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21 May 2019, 3:06 pm

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Paraceratherium is not a good example. It got extinct millions of years before emergence of humans (about 23 millions years ago - last common ancestor of humans and chimps is estimated to have lived some 6 million years ago)...
Good point. But imagine a world where humans never evolved from whatever ancestor we had in common with the apes, and where the animals that the humans have so far forced into extinction are still alive. THAT is my ideal Alternate Earth-World.


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21 May 2019, 3:13 pm

Fnord wrote:
magz wrote:
Paraceratherium is not a good example. It got extinct millions of years before emergence of humans (about 23 millions years ago - last common ancestor of humans and chimps is estimated to have lived some 6 million years ago)...
Good point. But imagine a world where humans never evolved from whatever ancestor we had in common with the apes, and where the animals that the humans have so far forced into extinction are still alive. THAT is my ideal Alternate Earth-World.


We could gradually try to de-evolve. Firstly, we could give up technology and go back to living in hunting and gathering societies. There’d be no advanced weaponry, of course. We could hit each other with sticks and rocks, though, whenever we feel the urge to fight.

That sounds pleasant.


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21 May 2019, 4:33 pm

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Fnord wrote:
magz wrote:
Paraceratherium is not a good example. It got extinct millions of years before emergence of humans (about 23 millions years ago - last common ancestor of humans and chimps is estimated to have lived some 6 million years ago)...
Good point. But imagine a world where humans never evolved from whatever ancestor we had in common with the apes, and where the animals that the humans have so far forced into extinction are still alive. THAT is my ideal Alternate Earth-World.
We could gradually try to de-evolve. Firstly, we could give up technology and go back to living in hunting and gathering societies. There’d be no advanced weaponry, of course. We could hit each other with sticks and rocks, though, whenever we feel the urge to fight...
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -- Albert Einstein


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21 May 2019, 4:42 pm

Sticks and rocks hurt, too....



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21 May 2019, 4:57 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Sticks and rocks hurt, too....


I suppose we could form matriarchal groups like bonobos and make love but not war.


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22 May 2019, 1:20 am

what keeps me going is the awareness that heaven is just on the other side of the veil, waiting for me when it is my time.



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22 May 2019, 2:21 am

auntblabby wrote:
what keeps me going is the awareness that heaven is just on the other side of the veil, waiting for me when it is my time.


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The end of a matter is better than the beginning, and a patient spirit is better than a proud one. Ecclesiastes 7:8

For in this hope we were saved; but hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he can already see? 25But if we hope for what we do not yet see, we wait for it patiently. Romans 8:24


Also, I just remembered something pertaining to the OP, Wisdom from C.S. Lewis from 'Mere Christianity':

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“The Christian says, 'Creatures are not born with desires unless satisfaction for those desires exists. A baby feels hunger: well, there is such a thing as food. A duckling wants to swim: well, there is such a thing as water. Men feel sexual desire: well, there is such a thing as sex.If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world. If none of my earthly pleasures satisfy it, that does not prove that the universe is a fraud. Probably earthly pleasures were never meant to satisfy it, but only to arouse it, to suggest the real thing. If that is so, I must take care, on the one hand, never to despise, or to be unthankful for, these earthly blessings, and on the other, never to mistake them for the something else of which they are only a kind of copy, or echo, or mirage. I must keep alive in myself the desire for my true country, which I shall not find till after death; I must never let it get snowed under or turned aside; I must make it the main object of life to press on to that country and to help others to do the same.”



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22 May 2019, 3:20 am

^^^ i fully agree with that. :study: