Not Enjoying Living (Trigger Warning: Suicide)

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The Grand Inquisitor
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19 Sep 2020, 9:09 pm

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^ TGI did try, he lost 40 pounds, which is no small feat.

He also asked not to hear about success stories, and I believe his request should be honored.

40kg actually. So almost 90 pounds.

And thanks Blazingstar


Sorry about the getting the units wrong...90 pounds/40kg is outstanding! Given you had the strength to set such an amazing goal and reach it tells me you could do anything you set your mind to.

That's ok.

And thanks again.



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19 Sep 2020, 11:58 pm

Tall/Short? - Don't care - go for short girls as they are more easy to please in my opinion as they may just want a guy who is taller and are less in demand on the dating market. Possible strategy: make it a point to make short women around you feel noticed. Not sure how to make people feel noticed, but safe-ish thing I did was say 'Hi, how are you?' if a girl happens to be nearby and smile, and move on going whereever I was going, without staying.

Skinny/Fat/Middle? - Probably skinny or middle Possible strategy: join a running group on meetup.com or similar, and just start running with everyone in the group, but drop out after. There may eventually be skinny-moderate women there. Also, learn to make a protein shake, so that you have something to capture a woman's interest to talk about.

Small/Medium/Big Breasts? - Don't care Possible strategy - try to greet women who wear closed neck shirts and don't show any cleavage at all - these women are more modest and more likely to respond well to a nerd in my opinion.

Tomboy/Girly Girl? - Possible strategy: get a clean, new looking car - girly girls seem to like cars and prefer things to be clean. Learn to be clean in everything you own.

Social Butterfly/Shy Nerd? - Possible strategy - learn to play some sort of board or card game, and join a card or board game night on meet up or somewhere.. or join a book club and learn to like to read.. more nerdy, introverted people there, who may have nerdy and introverted female friends.

Career/Stay-At-Home? - I wouldn't want somebody who's non-stop working, but at least while no kids are involved, I'd want somebody who could carry their own weight and contribute to household expenses. I'd want somebody who is responsible with money and sees the value in saving, because that's how I am. If we decided to have kids though, I'd prefer that they be the stay-at-home parent rather than me. - forget all of that, as an AS guy, you are the provider.. so work more hours, save more, and spend more money on the woman.. you will have to pay rent too and let her live for free. That's what women who more likely to date AS men appreciate, they say stuff like, "I am grateful he let me live in his house (for free)"..

Outdoors/Indoorsy? - Possible strategy: learn to cook. I've heard women say 'Cooking with that guy was fun while we dated'..

So your homework is to do each thing below, and write down a report in a notebook on what you and what was the result and to keep a Log of Approaching Women, and put a checkmark each time you do one of the below..
1. Say 'Hi, how are you?' and smile at a short woman nearby and keep walking..
2. Attend a running group at least once to check it out
3. I know it sounds stupid, but apply to work at a car wash or car detailing place once a week or something.. learning to clean a car like a professional is a useful skill in my opinion, since aspies struggle with having a clean car very often. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141006 ... ned-to-me/
4. Learn to make a protein shake and a salad from one recipe and keep making it every week so you will get good at it.
5. Look for a board game or card game you may like, learn to play it online, then start a playing group at a library for example.. or find a group nearby and attend once a month for example.. same with book clubs..



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20 Sep 2020, 12:27 am

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1. Say 'Hi, how are you?' and smile at a short woman nearby and keep walking..
2. Attend a running group at least once to check it out
3. I know it sounds stupid, but apply to work at a car wash or car detailing place once a week or something.. learning to clean a car like a professional is a useful skill in my opinion, since aspies struggle with having a clean car very often. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141006 ... ned-to-me/
4. Learn to make a protein shake and a salad from one recipe and keep making it every week so you will get good at it.
5. Look for a board game or card game you may like, learn to play it online, then start a playing group at a library for example.. or find a group nearby and attend once a month for example.. same with book clubs..

1. What do you think that'll achieve
2. I already don't like running, so I wouldn't do this anyway, but I also have loose skin from weight loss which kinda bounces up and down when I run and it's uncomfortable. I only run when I absolutely have to like if I'm running late for a bus
3. Well firstly I have a full time job and I already help my mum host a triva one night a week, and secondly I don't own a car and don't drive. My mother doesn't drive or have her license, and so I never had anyone to help me get mine and I've never lived with a car in my household, so naturally I've never had to wash one. I'm starting to think it might be about time for me to get license though.
4.Is a protein shake even any good if you don't exercise?
5. This is something I've actually looked into a little bit lately, and I think I'll look into it more.



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20 Sep 2020, 1:12 am

Having a driver’s license is good....not to find women....but for many other reasons.

It took me till age 37.



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20 Sep 2020, 3:14 am

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Having a driver’s license is good....not to find women....but for many other reasons.

It took me till age 37.


Lol - drivers license to find women sounds super creepy.. but a clean car is something women find attractive useful and entertaining..



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20 Sep 2020, 3:20 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
idntonkw wrote:
1. Say 'Hi, how are you?' and smile at a short woman nearby and keep walking..
2. Attend a running group at least once to check it out
3. I know it sounds stupid, but apply to work at a car wash or car detailing place once a week or something.. learning to clean a car like a professional is a useful skill in my opinion, since aspies struggle with having a clean car very often. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141006 ... ned-to-me/
4. Learn to make a protein shake and a salad from one recipe and keep making it every week so you will get good at it.
5. Look for a board game or card game you may like, learn to play it online, then start a playing group at a library for example.. or find a group nearby and attend once a month for example.. same with book clubs..

1. What do you think that'll achieve
2. I already don't like running, so I wouldn't do this anyway, but I also have loose skin from weight loss which kinda bounces up and down when I run and it's uncomfortable. I only run when I absolutely have to like if I'm running late for a bus
3. Well firstly I have a full time job and I already help my mum host a triva one night a week, and secondly I don't own a car and don't drive. My mother doesn't drive or have her license, and so I never had anyone to help me get mine and I've never lived with a car in my household, so naturally I've never had to wash one. I'm starting to think it might be about time for me to get license though.
4.Is a protein shake even any good if you don't exercise?
5. This is something I've actually looked into a little bit lately, and I think I'll look into it more.


1. It is an experiment; the point is you cannot predict until you try it out

I was trying to show you how I used lists, brainstorming and a written log to try to improve myself with women and get a date.. it did help me out of a rut. You have to start doing things differently to get potential changes in life. I think flabby skin isn’t so much a problem as quite a few women have told me looks are not important for a guy in their opinion. I would say write lists, brainstorm ideas and write a log of the results. I now believe your goal is possible, however, you have to get rid of depression to have an outlook That would better accommodate a gf



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20 Sep 2020, 3:31 am

Sharing similar interests is important - talking about things you both really enjoy will encourage you to relax. Join a club or informal group of people who have similar interests - bird watching, photography, historical interests...anything you feel at home with and you can come across as knowledgable and able to share quality time together.


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24 Sep 2020, 2:32 am

I’m 38 now. Never been in a relationship. I’d be lying if I said it didn’t bother me that I’m not relationship material.

But, it is what it is and I have other interests that I pursue and enjoy.

I’ve said this before to others on the forum but usually do not get a positive response from people so I haven’t said anything about it in ages, but, here I go again: If life sucks that bad you’d think you’d be open to trying anything that might improve it, no? I know that’s how I thought when I had Constant suicidal thoughts. I’d do A N Y T H I N G to not have to live like that with those thoughts. (and also not die).. anyways, I learned how to treat my ASD symptoms and have been doing so for the last ~7 1/2 years. You’re welcome to read about what I’ve done, cross reference it to more current medical study info available that backs it up, and try any of it for yourself. I’m an open book about it all if you want to chat.


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24 Sep 2020, 5:07 am

Citymale wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Having a driver’s license is good....not to find women....but for many other reasons.

It took me till age 37.


Lol - drivers license to find women sounds super creepy.. but a clean car is something women find attractive useful and entertaining..


I've been drowning in female attention since I passed my test as a 17 year old. The attention is sadly entirely on the car and not me however......but one woman did actually "thank" me in her own special way a few times which was nice as it was the first time where I didn't feel like the annoying guy that drives their free taxi.

A car is actually a good lifestyle improver in general and certainly can only make someone more attractive as shallow as it sounds.



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24 Sep 2020, 6:50 am

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A car is actually a good lifestyle improver in general and certainly can only make someone more attractive as shallow as it sounds.


Most relationships are shallow.
By my standards, at least. 8)



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24 Sep 2020, 10:22 am

Also, as simple a point as this is I feel it’s valid:

There are many of us who’ve gone through extended periods of not enjoying living. But they’re in the past and we’re still here because we push through them - or just wait for them to pass - and carry on. Ups and downs of life. It’s a pretty common cycle, even amongst NT’s. You won’t Always feel this way. Things could change and/or your thoughts about the way things are will change. Hang in there.. this is only temporary.

At my worst with these types of thoughts I used the most powerful force in the universe to make it through them. Love. I’d close my eyes and picture the face of my youngest God daughter who I would do Anything for, including tolerate these unconscious intrusive hyper negative thoughts. And I did. Maybe there’s someone in your life you could utilize in this exercise? Or perhaps it’s future you and your goals? Obvi it’s difficult to envision a happier future you atm, but if you can I bet it’d provide a bit of Hope to get you through your darkest hour. Remember: You weren’t always this unhappy, and better thoughts & times will come around again. They always do.


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24 Sep 2020, 5:11 pm

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Does your family know about any of this?

Yeah, most if not all of if.


And what was their input in this?

They don't really know what to do any more than I do


Same with my family. However, I will say that my ties with my family are better than they used to be since COVID derailed the planet. Is it the same for you?



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24 Sep 2020, 7:29 pm

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Also, as simple a point as this is I feel it’s valid:

There are many of us who’ve gone through extended periods of not enjoying living. But they’re in the past and we’re still here because we push through them - or just wait for them to pass - and carry on. Ups and downs of life. It’s a pretty common cycle, even amongst NT’s. You won’t Always feel this way. Things could change and/or your thoughts about the way things are will change. Hang in there.. this is only temporary.

At my worst with these types of thoughts I used the most powerful force in the universe to make it through them. Love. I’d close my eyes and picture the face of my youngest God daughter who I would do Anything for, including tolerate these unconscious intrusive hyper negative thoughts. And I did. Maybe there’s someone in your life you could utilize in this exercise? Or perhaps it’s future you and your goals? Obvi it’s difficult to envision a happier future you atm, but if you can I bet it’d provide a bit of Hope to get you through your darkest hour. Remember: You weren’t always this unhappy, and better thoughts & times will come around again. They always do.


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24 Sep 2020, 11:16 pm

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I'm not meeting any women my age at the moment, but even if I was, who's going to want a suicidal, romantically inexperienced loser whose primary motivations for wanting a relationship are what I described above? Even if somebody was interested in me despite all of that, am I going to be interested in them?



Its a hard one. To get a girlfriend you need a more positive outlook, to get a more positive outlook you need a girlfriend

im doing meditation at the moment, vipassana retreat would probably have more quick results though. maybe research it



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25 Sep 2020, 11:38 pm

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I’m 38 now. Never been in a relationship. I’d be lying if I said it didn’t bother me that I’m not relationship material.

But, it is what it is and I have other interests that I pursue and enjoy.

I’ve said this before to others on the forum but usually do not get a positive response from people so I haven’t said anything about it in ages, but, here I go again: If life sucks that bad you’d think you’d be open to trying anything that might improve it, no? I know that’s how I thought when I had Constant suicidal thoughts. I’d do A N Y T H I N G to not have to live like that with those thoughts. (and also not die).. anyways, I learned how to treat my ASD symptoms and have been doing so for the last ~7 1/2 years. You’re welcome to read about what I’ve done, cross reference it to more current medical study info available that backs it up, and try any of it for yourself. I’m an open book about it all if you want to chat.


good job.. I am 5 years behind you and I've been stuck in this same negativity for the past 8 years.. I am not even dateable any more..



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25 Sep 2020, 11:41 pm

don't lose hope.. I am 34 and never had a gf.. when I was 24, I had some hope and kind of tried.. thought I could improve upon and learn with experience.. you would have to become hopeful, positive person and be OK with a below average looking girl.. then, that is totally possible.. but you have to have hope and keep improving..