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26 Jan 2021, 3:34 pm

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I could get tested, but if I do have COVID it's probably too late anyway, my boyfriend will catch it off me, or probably already has if I have it, and he keeps saying that if he gets it he will be dead.

I just wish I wasn't a key worker so that I can be furloughed. I'm so scared of what will happen if my boyfriend gets ill from it. It's no good saying to distance myself from him in our small apartment. We've only got one bed, we've got no room for another bed and the couch isn't comfortable enough to sleep on. And because we live under the same roof in a small apartment and we're together all day until I go to work, it's inevitable that he will catch whatever I've got even if we disinfected everything. A couple of years ago he got a cold and I tried my best to avoid getting it, by disinfecting everything, not kissing him, and putting a dehumidifier on, but I still caught it.

5 million people in the UK have been vaccinated now yet there's still a kajollion people getting COVID every day.


For what it's worth, my niece had it in October, but her husband and 1 year old kid never got it.



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26 Jan 2021, 6:56 pm

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I could get tested, but if I do have COVID it's probably too late anyway, my boyfriend will catch it off me, or probably already has if I have it, and he keeps saying that if he gets it he will be dead.

I just wish I wasn't a key worker so that I can be furloughed. I'm so scared of what will happen if my boyfriend gets ill from it. It's no good saying to distance myself from him in our small apartment. We've only got one bed, we've got no room for another bed and the couch isn't comfortable enough to sleep on. And because we live under the same roof in a small apartment and we're together all day until I go to work, it's inevitable that he will catch whatever I've got even if we disinfected everything. A couple of years ago he got a cold and I tried my best to avoid getting it, by disinfecting everything, not kissing him, and putting a dehumidifier on, but I still caught it.

5 million people in the UK have been vaccinated now yet there's still a kajollion people getting COVID every day.


For what it's worth, my niece had it in October, but her husband and 1 year old kid never got it.


I don't know where you live but in the UK we have the new variant(s), meaning it's much easier to catch - and now according to Boris Johnson the newest variant is going to be more deadly too.

Also the UK have like hundreds and thousands of new cases each day, over a thousand deaths each day and thousands of hospitalisations too. A relative of mine is literally in a coma with COVID fighting for her life. It's very possible to catch it that easily and get ill.

Apparently the woman at work is off with a cold, but then how can she be sure it's a cold unless she gets tested? She's never been off with a cold before. Apparently her whole family has had it. Sounds like COVID to me.

I've got questions to ask about the virus and it's variants, but I don't know if it's worth asking them in this thread or if I should start a new thread, but everybody's going to get bored of me. But when I worry about something I get obsessed with it until I am more educated, and I am not going to use Google to educate myself because I don't know what's true and what's not.


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27 Jan 2021, 6:05 am

She should get tested. You should get tested.

A very obese friend of mine got COVID, was hospitalized, and is now recovered.

I broke my pinky and obtained a negative test 1/25, and I’ll be tested again 2/2 for a biopsy on 2/5.

We have a few “variants” of COVID.



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27 Jan 2021, 7:57 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
She should get tested. You should get tested.

A very obese friend of mine got COVID, was hospitalized, and is now recovered.

I broke my pinky and obtained a negative test 1/25, and I’ll be tested again 2/2 for a biopsy on 2/5.

We have a few “variants” of COVID.


I sent away for a home testing kit yesterday. I didn't want to go to a drive thru because with me being a wimp it might take me a while to gain the courage to get the swab in my throat and/or up my nose so I'll rather do it in my own time when I'm at home.

I'm not the only one at work who is angry with this woman. I wish she'd tell the boss what's going on, if she or her family are getting tested or have been tested.

My question is this (please take the time to answer if you know, as I am so curious and Google won't answer my question as usual):-

OK, so all viruses variate. That includes flu and norovirus, right? So, if you've already had a virus, are you immune to the new variant too? Because if you will not be immune to the new variant of a virus then why don't we have lockdowns and social restrictions during flu season every year? Do you see what I mean? (I hope I worded it properly).

Thanks.

Ps. My grandmother died of norovirus during an outbreak a couple of years ago.


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27 Jan 2021, 8:10 am

I believe one is usually at least partially immune to the full effects of the “variant,” if one had the “original disease.”

The COVID vaccines have been shown to be effective against at least most “variants.”

A person with reduced immunity could die even from a “regular” flu.

Many more previously healthy people die from COVID than from the flu, despite the mortality rate for healthy people being quite low. That’s why COVID gets the attention that it gets. COVID can fill up hospitals and morgues. Flu never does.



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27 Jan 2021, 8:38 pm

They keep saying that new variants will be resistant to the vaccines, so that will mean the 7 million who have been vaccinated so far in the UK will have no protection against the virus, and by the time updated vaccines have been rolled out then there'll be another vaccine-resistant strain. So that will mean that this will go on forever.

I have got tested but I won't get the results for a few days. It's been nearly 7 days since I last saw the (possibly infected) woman at work, and still no sign of any symptoms with me or my boyfriend. But that doesn't mean a thing. In fact, the longer the symptoms take to show, the more severe the symptoms will be. If we're are both positive then I will get my boyfriend to the hospital even if he's not feeling ill, because he is a textbook example of a vulnerable person at high risk. He's even prone to infections from small cuts. That proves that his immune system is rather weak. And knowing that over 100,000 people have died from COVID in the UK and not all of them being elderly, it does make you look at things in such a negative light.

And I am the sort not to believe that diet and vitamins help your immune system, because they don't. Before the pandemic I was always picking up colds even though I took vitamin D tablets and had a healthy diet (green vegetables, fruit, nuts, herbal tea, honey, etc). The reason I haven't picked up any colds lately is because I've been doing my best to avoid COVID, so that goes the same to all the other bugs out there I suppose.


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27 Jan 2021, 8:58 pm

The vaccine is effective against the UK variant---that's for sure.

There is the belief that it is at least mostly effective against the other strains, though they don't know about the Brazilian strain yet.



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27 Jan 2021, 9:27 pm

Joe90 wrote:
So, if you've already had a virus, are you immune to the new variant too?

That is variable; it depends on the specific differences between variants.

This is from last month but it illustrates that point,
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As of now, there is no evidence that the virus has changed enough to get around existing immune protection. But experts say it’s crucial to confirm that because the variant has a number and array of mutations unlike other versions of the virus that have popped up throughout the pandemic.

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“There’s a chance that the antibodies that were made in the first infection won’t work as well against the new variant,” she said.

But Barclay stressed that the immune system has other components that contribute to protection, including fighters called T cells that can also recognize the virus. And she noted that vaccines elicit antibodies that can home in on different parts of the spike protein and that take different approaches to fighting off the virus, so even if some lost their ability to target the spike, the vaccines have other ways to block the virus. It would be unlikely that these changes in the variant could overcome all those layers.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/12/21/loo ... ronavirus/


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27 Jan 2021, 9:35 pm

Joe90 wrote:
So, if you've already had a virus, are you immune to the new variant too?


Answer part 2; though the thing remains neither an absolute yes nor an absolute no, there is ...

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Recovered Covid patients may be immune to new virus strains

A recent study published in Nature found that the immune systems of people who recover from Covid-19 may evolve to fight different strains of SARS-CoV-2.

Published: 27th January 2021 04:42 AM | Last Updated: 27th January 2021 04:42 AM


https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities ... 55536.html

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The paper, titled Evolution of antibody immunity to SARS-CoV-2 and published on January 18, noted that antibodies are produced by immune cells that keep evolving due to continued exposure to remnants of the virus hidden in the gut tissue. The scientists involved in the US study said they suspect that when recovered patients encounter the virus again, the response would be both faster and more effective, preventing reinfection and may block even mutant forms of the virus, such as the South African variant.


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28 Jan 2021, 7:01 pm

Well thanks for offering me reliable pieces of information, at least now I'm a little more reassured. :heart:

It's been a whole week since I last saw the woman at work who might have COVID, and me and my boyfriend still haven't shown any symptoms. But I have read that symptoms can take up to 14 days to start showing. I have sent away for a test but won't hear results for a few days yet. And if I haven't caught it but if other people who I work with have, at least we have all been wearing masks all week so that should provide protection for all of us.

My boyfriend coughs nonstop but he is a smoker with COPD. He doesn't have a temperature or any aching or anything.


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28 Jan 2021, 7:45 pm

From what I've read, symptoms usually start after about 5 days of exposure, though this is not absolute.

I'm glad you did the test, Joe.

I've taken three tests in the last week. All negative.