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Or if you want to blame someone else for something you did.

Or if you want to claim that a deliberate libelous attack on another persons moral character is a mere prank.

Or if you want to claim that Aspies and others on the spectrum are too devoid of reason and/or moral character to grasp the distinctions between right and wrong.

What are you saying then that my immature and admittedly stupid prank deserves jail/prison time?

I'm saying:

1) You have repeatedly tried to place the blame for your actions on your friend.

2) You are lying by use of euphemism in calling a malicious, libelous attack a "prank".

3) You are still trying to take the blame that is yours alone and affix it to your Aspergers.

*I accept it was immature and stupid but am disappointed that my fellow aspies aren't supporting me. Many aspies end up in trouble as a result of their condition.

Case closed.

All I can do is wait and see my former friend doesn't know where I now live so if the cops are involved they would have to trace me. I have definitely learnt my lesson and wont me pulling anything like this again, I will leave her in peace.

I'm afraid you're mistaken then. Most people with AS have no trouble at all thinking through consequences that are of the criminal variety. Nor do people with AS generally go out of their way to hurt other people years after a slight. Nor do people with AS generally make such a bad impression on their former friends that years later when someone annonymously starts harrassing them, they know that it's got to be them.

What you're describing goes beyond Asperger's Syndrome. Asking the community here to own your problems and sympathize with you is asking them to say that we're a little community of sociopaths.

You're going to find little sympathy for labeling everyone here like that.



I've no idea about Australian law (aside from the fact that we share common law and the M'Naghten rules, which is actually a lot), but in the United States you'd be laughed out of court (in handcuffs) if you claimed Asperger's Syndrome as a defense. Generally speaking, legal systems frown on rules in which fully functional adults are allowed to get away with crimes for relatively minor (in comparison to something like schizophrenia) mental health issues.

You're no where near impaired enough for an aquittal via insanity (which is essentially what you're claiming). And if your condition is so serious that you're a danger to others, but cannot be held responsible for your actions, then you need to be put away in an institution for the rest of your life for the protection of yourself and your fellow citizens.

So, if you'd like to continue living your life in society, you're going to need to follow the law and completely dispose of this idea that Asperger's Syndrome gives you some sort of immunity from the normal consequences of your actions.

This has been a truly enlightening view into one manifestation of AS that I hope is a minority.

wow.

What I am saying is that no it (AS) isn't a defence to get off crime but it is taken into account so a person would be unlikely to go to jail for something they did there was a case of an aspie rapist who convicted but not jailed because the judge said it would be too tough on him given his asperger's. Also recently a computer hacker given community service. I did something stupid I accept that as I have admitted. She said I was the only one in her past who she thought had a "grudge" this in only because I told her exactly what I thought by Myspace recently as did my mum. Her mum knew I had AS from the day she met me yet she kept it to herself for a decade and didn't tell mum and me leaving me to suffer. Stop abusing me and calling me a sociopath I am not, sure I have empathy issues as I said it is part of the condition, it doesn't mean in hindsight I can't see why what I did was wrong or that someone's feelings have potentially been trampled on.

I know many people with AS in jail as a result of their condition and not thinking of the consequences I write to them and visited one. He was severely bullied and ended up taking a gun to school whilst I don't condone his actions I understand them. There is plenty of research on the net of the high numbers of aspies in jail/criminal justice system. Maybe you are fortyunate to not have that particular issue others of us aren't perhaps you have issues I don't. I am a college educated person but I am socially isolated, have extreme difficulties making and keeping friends, have been in and out of work and live by myself. If I am confronted and the evidence is there I will do the adult thing admit it and cop the consequences hopefully non prison.

I'm not abusing you. However, you must see that when one person harms another and then expresses anger at their victim for protecting themselves, anti-social personality disorder is going to be the first thought of many people.

We understand that you have Asperger's Syndrome and understand some of the deficits that it causes in empathy, however what you've expressed on this thread causes us to believe that it is not the sole cause of your actions.



Delete these thoughts from your head. You have no special privlidges because you have Asperger's. Just because a few bleeding heart judges made bad decisions (what part of Asperger's leads to rape?) doesn't mean the judge you'll be put in front of will care. Nor should he.

You're hiding behind your diagnosis and you need to stop that immediately.

I genuinely never meant to harm her but in hindsight I can see that even annoying is harming and that having strange men calling her wouldn't be nice at all. I had no right to use her personal information on the internet in the way I did that went beyond a prank. Sure mum and I have issues with her and her family but the actions I took were stupid, immature and wrong. If the cops track me so be it but I do hope you can see that whilst what I did was wrong a prison sentence would be very harsh. I agree I don't think asperger's has anything to do with rape maybe only in so far as the empathy thing we are talkng about. He still should have at least had to do some community service or something instead he got a suspended prison sentence which basically means unless he breaks another law no punishment is imposed. Many of my penfriends are abused in jail because they are different due to AS and that isn't right either.

You're almost there.

The emboldened section above is your final hurdle.

As I suggested, the best thing you could possibly do is admit to your friend that it was you that did it, apologise, and beg for her to discontinue any further action.

As it stands, you are cowering in a corner, waiting for the "cops" to track you down, which is probably total paranoia - but you are suffering.

If you admit it was you, if your friend is still worried that there may be someone ELSE out there, attacking her, her mind will be set at rest. Currently, she is still suffering from the uncertainty. Conceivably she IS still pursuing the matter via the authorities.

If you apologise, she may even forgive you.

Even if the worse case has happened - that she has managed to get people involved and they have accumulated the evidence (which WILL exist) that you were the culprit - and the "cops" are about to come knocking on your door with a warrant (far too dramatic - it'll be a letter in the post), if you can show that you have already admitted your guilt, and made some attempt at making amends, then (maybe) a court would be lenient.

If you leave things as they are, you are worrying, your friend is worrying, and if it does go any further, the authorities are going to take a dim view of your attempts to avoid blame.

Most people will accept: "I did it. I'm sorry."

I have thought about coming totally clean to her but in her last Myspace message she said she "never wanted any contact with me again" and to LEAVE HER ALONE in capitals. I don't want to make the matter even worse than it already is. You are right if the cops come there will be evidence and I will admit it and perhaps then through a lawyer or something I could fully apologise. It might be paranoia but from what I know of the former friend she is very religious and the kind of person who would call the police. The more I think about what you guys are saying the more I realise you are right I did the wrong thing and I have been suffering from it for the last eight days. It may not seem like it but I do feel really guilty and I know in my heart I deserve probation or something if it comes to that. It went beyond a prank into something mean and as a victim of bullying and abuse I know how that feels. I was so hurt that things ended with us how they did and my latest antics have really put the nail in the coffin. I feel very alone right now as I often do, I find it so hard to make and keep friends. Please understand guys I am a nice person and I made a mistake I am not a sociopath or insensitive.

Oh Lord, she is very religious and you did something pornographic to her. Phew!

I have had a lot of thoughts and read this thread a couple of times. I can fully understand you not realizing the extent of harm you may have caused, I can also understand still being upset over something hurtful even after a few years have gone by, after all, I was once an aspie in my twenties and very naive too, what I cannot understand is you actually doing the deed, I suspect that even a very cross aspie could possibly have the deed in their head if someone suggested it, but probably not transfer it into real live action.

I would have thought it more likely that you would either have gone into meltdown and exploded or gone into meltdown internally, I find the idea of an innocent aspie actually plotting and planning and executing this action a little difficult to swallow. Still we aspies are not all the same.

What I hope most for you is that you don't get put into prison, but DO learn a very valuable lesson from this.

I think the point is now coming clear.

When you started this thread, you seemed completely unwilling to accept responsibility for your actions.

I suspect that when you last made contact (as you suggest above), that attitude was apparent to your ex-friend. That's why she told you to leave her alone - because she could see you were being dishonest.

You may find a short apology will work wonders. I can't see that it can make you feel any worse than I think you're feeling now.

Clear the air. Tomorrow's a new day.

I don't beleive I was being dishonest but because of my family background (domestic violence) I was brought up to put on a front not show your true emotions and to sherk responsibility. I tried to send her a message on Myspace before and she has changed her settings so you have to be her friend to message her. It is a shame because all I really want to do is admit how truly sorry I really am and I hope I get a chance to do that but like I said I don't want to make it worse by being accused of harrassment as well, the uncertainty is adding to my guilt i am really pissed off at myself I f****d up bigtime.