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Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Not all guys were raised, or believe, like that. I have never thought that way about women. Quite the opposite. I rather enjoy their company and friendship on an intellectual level. Sex is an afterthought.

Trigger11, you mistook what I was saying! There are plenty of guys who can't seem to think of anything beyond their next sexual conquest. However, that's not true of all guys. I think some guys ruin it for the rest, & I certainly didn't mean to generaliza how some of the male persuasion act!

I also don't know why some feel it's ok to touch when they haven't been given permission anymore than I can predict who will be respectful & who won't. And yes there are women who are every bit as bad as men!

I've had more than my fair share of creeps come into my life. Right now, I am virtually creepless! That's realy a first! But I have 2 daughters of whom the youngest one was called sexy when she was just 3 years old. Now there's a guy that I wanted to tear apart from limb to limb. As it was I grabbed my daughter & got out of there as quick as I could!

Very creepy. You however didn't seem very vulnerable to me, you got yourself right out of that situation.

To be blunt: you were a bit too NT in this situation. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it sounds like you were concerned about his feelings. He steamrolled yours, so there was no reason to protect his. He crossed the line at the very latest when he touched your arm. I just tell people like this straight out to not touch me. Don't be surprised if they say something nasty about you, like that you're frigid or afraid of a good time. Once a guy told me, "at least now I know why you're divorced."

When men I don't want to immediately alienate do this, I mention the study that found that when a man's advance is welcomed, the woman has already touched him inadvertently an average of three times, and state how many times they've touched me already. Generally this gets a "weren't you touching me?" or an excuse like "it's so loud in here, when I say something I have to touch your back." Yeah right.



That said, I hear you about being shaken up. I feel pretty shaken up, too, even when I've handled it like I described above, and I always drive myself nuts looking at myself to see how I brought it on, or could have handled it better.

Please don't confuse your reaction to this creep with ANYthing about your sexuality. Maybe you're asexual; maybe you're just classy and private about your sexuality and have thus far not encountered caring, tasteful physical connection in a safe environment.

To be blunt: you were a bit too NT in this situation. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it sounds like you were concerned about his feelings. He steamrolled yours, so there was no reason to protect his. He crossed the line at the very latest when he touched your arm. I just tell people like this straight out to not touch me. Don't be surprised if they say something nasty about you, like that you're frigid or afraid of a good time. Once a guy told me, "at least now I know why you're divorced."

When men I don't want to immediately alienate do this, I mention the study that found that when a man's advance is welcomed, the woman has already touched him inadvertently an average of three times, and state how many times they've touched me already. Generally this gets a "weren't you touching me?" or an excuse like "it's so loud in here, when I say something I have to touch your back." Yeah right.



That said, I hear you about being shaken up. I feel pretty shaken up, too, even when I've handled it like I described above, and I always drive myself nuts looking at myself to see how I brought it on, or could have handled it better.

Please don't confuse your reaction to this creep with ANYthing about your sexuality. Maybe you're asexual; maybe you're just classy and private about your sexuality and have thus far not encountered caring, tasteful physical connection in a safe environment.