My life was a misfire

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Thanks for all the hard work you’ve done, RR.

I would recommend that ASS-P wait until school is in full swing(about early September). Then call them. Letters have a way of getting “lost,” somehow.

What do you think?

Or maybe get the email address of the person who deals with transcripts....and send that person an email. With his name and DOB, but not his SSN.

Yep my dad just found that out after making some calls. New York has a weird way of doing things compared to the west coast.

Based on the recorded phone info my dad got, there are online options for ordering transcripts and that seems to be their preferred method. If a letter is sent it should be sent by way of certified mail so there will be conformation that the letter was received.

Thanks for your research, too.

Here's what the form from http://www.acces.nysed.gov/hse/duplicat ... ranscripts looks like:



I noticed on the form it says: "IF YOU ARE REQUESTING INFORMATION ON BEHALF OF THE DOCUMENT HOLDER,
PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THE DOCUMENT HOLDER MUST ALSO SIGN THE RELEASE."

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That means that ASS-P must sign it.

He might as well fill this out himself.

Yes it looks like something he can just fill out. I mean personally for obvious reasons a phone call is the last option I would want to use. I'm also wondering if the college being applied to would have a form. Obviously official transcripts has to be specified. Really I would use all four methods of calling the high school, writing the high school, plus using http://www.acces.nysed.gov/hse/duplicat ... ranscripts and https://needmytranscript.com/ and anything else available. I like to cover all angles.

As the old saying goes, persistence pays off - and I don't mean persistence in trying to get someone else to do it.

It’s true that the college a perspective student is applying to usually requests the transcripts from the perspective student’s high school.

This is what happened in my case.

That would ultimately be the simplest and most efficient way of getting it done properly. Opposed to the student being a middle-man (or someone else being a third party middle-man). I'm guessing you just had to sign a release form and that was it your end?

...BA feels that my misfortune in having NIT GETTING a normal placement/availability of my transcripts makes me scum, and that, after my past experience of " trying it all alone " and having it blow up in my face, I must somehow overcome this bureau critics tar baby or I cannot do college work, with the fact that I am on the margins of society, have been scarred by what happened before, and am undersupplied in access to tech and knowledge . Two more people follow him up by banging their flagons and yelling " hear, hear! '" :ev
Okay, you hate me. You don't care. Check.
I was only now asking for a path to be cleared so that, once I know what I should do, I could contact my HS offices myself and ask for the TLPOP - and get them.
Earlier, I was cut off by a moderator, after someone's complaint IIRC, before I could explain what happened at NYU in 1995-96 . Ford came back here after he said he was going away.
After I internalize and figure out the information RR gave me, at some point I can try and contact the HS for my transcripts - which other people had a normal setup for, and help with, incidentally .

Well according to krafti, the college you apply to sends for the transcripts, which makes the most sense.

Since Robin has done everything he or anyone else can do until September, there's really no point in discussing this any further.

So now you have plenty of time to tell your NYU story.

...I have been in the hospital again, due to still another recurrence of my water-weight bloating, since Thursday, incidentally, and I write this from there. When I fulfilled the much-delayed eye doctor appointment last Thursday, which resolved the frustration over that not being resolved (However, the eye doctor put forward any resolution of whether I should get an eye appointment or not to a future, new, appointment.), it became apparent that I had so swollen up - I had pain and walking was quite hard - that I went to the hospital.

Nobody called you scum, but if you want your world populated by villains and heroes-soon-to-become villains, go ahead. It's more interesting than the reality, and it doesn't really hurt anybody.

I hope you've been getting some rest in the hospital - sorry the pain has been so bad lately.

I haven't said much lately, because I waffle between wishing I could help, but realizing there's nothing I can do, that others haven't already tried, or suggested. I do care about you, and wish you could get into a better situation, and it troubles me deeply, that people with mental health issues struggle as much as we all do, in our various ways.

As for the transcript saga... We've been going in circles on this issue for years now, and while I appreciate the latest efforts by Robin and Ezra, I think the bottom line has not changed. To attend college, your health needs to be in a state where you can actually get to class several times per week, which doesn't seem to be the case for you.

Also, the reality is that college courses are more difficult than filling out an application. And as much as we all want to see you succeed at this, at some point you need to acknowledge that it's going to take more effort on your part, not just other people's.

Your signature mentions having to 'prove' that you deserve to go to college, as if that's an unreasonable expectation. But it's simply the truth, for everyone. That's why college applications exist. Same with job interviews - you don't get a job unless you can prove you're able to do it. (Something I fail at myself, so I hear you there.)

I also have to say, at this point, I disagree with your motives for going to college. It's not that you want to learn the subject matter (you can do that for free, online). It's not that you're hoping to get a job, and get off disability. You just want the college dorm life experience, and believe that you deserve it, period.

As someone who has experienced college dorm life experience - it's not all that. Inebriated 18-year-olds staggering into your entryway and vomiting all over the floor. (Which janitors refuse to touch, so you have to clean it up yourself). Old buildings that give you lead poisoning, and fire alarms that go off every night, for weeks on end, until you finally just learn to sleep through them, and trust you're not going to burn to death.

I worry that you're looking for the picturesque 'brochure cover' experience of happy students, all smiling in their overpriced preppy clothes, relaxing on the campus lawn. And true, that's typical behavior you'll see in college freshmen - for about the first week.

But then, classes get hard. Studying happens in the library, not sprawled out on a picnic blanket on the lawn. You're more likely to be pulling an all-nighter in a computer lab, doing battle with broken printers.

If you don't like filling out forms, you're not going to like college. If you struggle with tech, and don't have the initiative to watch a YouTube that someone links for you, to learn how to use it correctly... You're going to hate college. College is all about learning things that don't come easily, and that you know nothing about.

I don't know if it's helpful for you to hear that, but I honestly don't think you're going to like college, based on your dislike of forms, and instructional videos, and following schedules, and adhering to rules. Don't let the fairy-tale brochure cover picture fool you. It's just an advertisement - for an industry that has 'spat in your face' so many times, I'm not certain why you want anything to do with it at all.

In the end, I don't think you're all that different from the rest of us. Most of us aren't 'college material' either. (I certainly wasn't, and barely graduated, due to mental and physical health issues.) Most of us are unemployed, and struggling to just do the best we can, with what life has thrown at us.

I do feel for you though, not having a family to support you, and having to rely on the system for help. Especially with issues that make it difficult for you to follow instructions, adhere to rules, or even trust the people who are trying to help you. The system has strict rules, and can be cruel to those who aren't able to advocate for themselves. I've had nightmare experiences myself, with doctors and therapists who are criminally incompetent at their jobs, so I don't doubt that you've suffered a considerable amount of abuse and neglect, at the hands of those who should be helping you.

So please know I feel for you, and hope that moving forward you will get the help that you need. I hope the current hospital staff is treating you well, and that you have access to a social worker, who can advise you in terms of your next step toward a better living situation. My feeling is that a professionally trained social worker, right there in Santa Cruz, is going to give you better advice than I would, as a random clueless person on the internet.

Sorry for the long post, but wanted to let you know you're in my thoughts, and I'm hoping that things will get better for you, in terms of finding a stable living situation, and receiving the medical care that you need. Hope the current hospital staff is treating you well, and that you're feeling a bit better.

Best wishes as always

^^^You said, back in May, that "you can't help him." I bet you that you could have! I sense that you are a perfectionist, and don't realize that 3/4's of you could be worth 1 1/2 of you to someone else.

A nice overview of the pitfalls of college.

You were definitely in a position to offer good advice then...and, evidently, you did so just now.

I believe there's a very good possibility that I am not college material. And I have a lot of apprehension over the idea of attending one. I'm not writing this for a pep talk and to draw attention to myself. I'm just echoing what Ashariel said. I've never read books or saw movies that glamorized the college experience. Just some videos of students saying what it's really like. Plus I listening to some guy on the radio this morning talking about how a 4,000$ student loan ended up costing him 15,000$.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ3AYr8_Q5o