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01 Apr 2020, 8:12 pm

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The shortness of breath symptom of covid-19 really frightens me.

As should it. The ones who suffer severe or critical Covid-19, are really bad off. And as more and more are in need of ventilator, there might not be enough for everyone, as we have already seen in China and Italy. Italian medical personnel have talked about all the people they can't help because they lack equipment for all, so heartbreaking choices must be made.
A Norwegian journalist that were allowed inside the intensive care ward, said it might just be the worst he had seen as a reporter. He spoke of people suffocating on their beds, tongues out of their mouths.
And the suffering can take up to 2 weeks, before they either improve or die. For the ones with critical Covid-19 it's a 50-50 chance either way.

I'm scared of contracting it. I'm in the at risk category, as is my loved ones, and I am really scared of getting it, not only because it can kill me, but because it's a brutal, terrible death, and because I'm petrified of my loved ones getting it and they'll suffer, and maybe even die. It scares the living daylight out of me.

That is actually part of why I like the humor thread about it. The humor itself does suit me, and laughing at it is also a coping mechanism for me. It doesn't help with anything in the practical sense (it's still dangerous), but it feels empowering and is a ray of light.


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02 Apr 2020, 12:35 pm

Serious on the gardening recommendation.

This popped up yesterday about how we need to grow more of our own food supply here vs depend on California anymore And about home gardening and the “victory gardens,” that were planted after WW2.

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/rich ... 1.24110931

Planting gardens ASAP, even in pots or buckets, is the food security tactical thing to do.


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03 Apr 2020, 10:58 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Serious on the gardening recommendation.

This popped up yesterday about how we need to grow more of our own food supply here vs depend on California anymore And about home gardening and the “victory gardens,” that were planted after WW2.

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/rich ... 1.24110931

Planting gardens ASAP, even in pots or buckets, is the food security tactical thing to do.


Yes indeed my Facebook is full of people showing off their gardens and recommending others to take it up...

This is how our grandparents survived the Great Depression or other hardships.

I know my grandfather had a plot of land that they used for growing food. Anything left over was distributed to the neighbours and anyone who wanted.

Canning ..sharing resources with neighbours...sewing and reusing things as something else. .
making jams and pickles ..stews and soups..rationing...
all of these were important to our grandparents' survival..

I had a book teaching household necessary skills that people used to survive the World Wars like this. I forgot the title...


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03 Apr 2020, 11:05 am

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And I agree with the post above: nature walks in solitude are very grounding. I’ve taken several the last few weeks. There are very few people outside and I avoid touching anything. My walks have been urban, but there are a lot of trees, parks, and wooded areas around here. A couple days ago I spent quite a while walking around a very large and seemingly affluent graveyard. It was very peaceful.


There is a very good video by a lady (who has a PhD in physics-unrelated except that it causes her to research more and relay info in a structured way) who said ppl with ASD and Aspergers need this because their brains overheat because there's more processing going on. She gave some scientific stuff to back up her recommendation...

I noticed my kids are more focused if they venture outside to walk by the creek or pond.
Less tantrums.. Focus on books... Grounded as you say.

But we are lucky as not everyone lives in areas they can stroll safely outside.. My sister lives in an area downtown where you see drug addicted people all around, and it's very unsafe. Attacks and fights- things like that occur.

I saw a man openly giving this woman drugs in front of my mom and I. (After she gave him money)

He was laughing while she was behaving like a starving wild animal (clearly high on something) and looking all wild and insane--
She was even growling and panting.
I wanted to punch him for being amused by her state.

He reminded me of my previous Lawyer


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03 Apr 2020, 11:51 am

If I lived in The Worst neighbourhood I would leave the area to go for walks/hikes etc instead of walking around a dangerous area. No car? Hop on public transit and in 20-60 mins you’d be well clear of the danger zone. Get some fresh air, then return home, minimizing time spent in your own neighbourhood.


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03 Apr 2020, 11:56 am

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If I lived in The Worst neighbourhood I would leave the area to go for walks/hikes etc instead of walking around a dangerous area. No car? Hop on public transit and in 20-60 mins you’d be well clear of the danger zone. Get some fresh air, then return home, minimizing time spent in your own neighbourhood.


Of course. However my sister works exhausting hours (lots of physical strain too, as she is lifting and carrying ppl to equipment etc in rehab with injuries ) and has little energy to drive after dealing with the traffic. She works in a city about 40 min away not counting traffic.

She would have energy to stroll or even jog but the in between of actually getting to someplace decent is a bit much for her.traffic is intense.

Taking Public transit is a risk right now.


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03 Apr 2020, 11:56 am

Yes ... hop on public transit ... where hundreds of people each day sneeze, cough, and spit wherever it is convenient, and where the trams and buses are cleaned and sanitized only once each day...


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03 Apr 2020, 11:59 am

^ i edited above post a couple of times to explain her siruation. Here the traffic can add up 2 or more hrs..


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03 Apr 2020, 4:44 pm

Won’t be able to get food anymore
Stores are all limiting people so they gather packed together in a line outside to get into the store. It’s not safe to do that so no more food for sly.


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03 Apr 2020, 5:05 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
If I lived in The Worst neighbourhood I would leave the area to go for walks/hikes etc instead of walking around a dangerous area. No car? Hop on public transit and in 20-60 mins you’d be well clear of the danger zone. Get some fresh air, then return home, minimizing time spent in your own neighbourhood.


Of course. However my sister works exhausting hours (lots of physical strain too, as she is lifting and carrying ppl to equipment etc in rehab with injuries ) and has little energy to drive after dealing with the traffic. She works in a city about 40 min away not counting traffic.

She would have energy to stroll or even jog but the in between of actually getting to someplace decent is a bit much for her.traffic is intense.

Taking Public transit is a risk right now.


The roads are free flowing and very clear here pretty much everywhere rn afaik because people are staying home like they’ve been ordered to by the Minister of Health.

Shouldn’t it be similar where your sister lives? Only essential service employees on the roads so traffic should be less of an issue rn than ever ?


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03 Apr 2020, 5:10 pm

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Yes ... hop on public transit ... where hundreds of people each day sneeze, cough, and spit wherever it is convenient, and where the trams and buses are cleaned and sanitized only once each day...


I’ve seen friends photos of public transit rn. Train cars are nearly emptied. Every 2nd seat on buses are covered/“closed” to enforce some distancing. Obvi people still ave to take precautions, touch as little as possible, carry hand sanitizer, avoid others etc but public transit is still operational. Buses are also free right now - enter via the backdoor only to protect drivers.

I’d rather walk or cycle 10+ miles than take a bus or train if I can avoid taking public transit, but public transit is still operating and those who Have To use it for essential trips can.

Then there’s the guy that ran an entire marathon on his balcony.. round and round in circles for hours. No real NEED to go anywhere to exercise. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. 8)


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03 Apr 2020, 5:25 pm

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Won’t be able to get food anymore
Stores are all limiting people so they gather packed together in a line outside to get into the store. It’s not safe to do that so no more food for sly.


Shop smart. Take all of the recommended precautions.

Then when you get home, wash your clothes right away, take a shower, and disinfect everything you bring into the home.

This is an excellent how to:


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03 Apr 2020, 5:35 pm

If you are tested positive for corona, and then beat it though and survive is it like the flu, where you will not get it for quite a few months after, again?



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03 Apr 2020, 5:40 pm

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If you are tested positive for corona, and then beat it though and survive is it like the flu, where you will not get it for quite a few months after, again?


It’s believed so, to an extent, yes, that antibodies created will build a bit of an immunity so that you’re less likely to get it again or as severely - but there’s no guarantee.

Still sounds promising though, as the antibodies of survivors are being taken from donated plasma and injected into severely ill people to help them recover faster.

So, yes.. having had it and lived will help your immune system via antibodies created, but there’s no guarantee it means you’re now completely immune from ever getting it again.


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03 Apr 2020, 5:42 pm

Well it's just I a part of me is almost tempted to go out and get it cause then I get beat and then do not have to worry about getting others infected cause I already had it and can then just go out and work, and not have to worry so much then. But yes I shouldn't go out and get it, but it's tempting, just to be done with it.



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03 Apr 2020, 5:48 pm

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Well it's just I a part of me is almost tempted to go out and get it cause then I get beat and then do not have to worry about getting others infected cause I already had it and can then just go out and work, and not have to worry so much then. But yes I shouldn't go out and get it, but it's tempting, just to be done with it.


Best to avoid getting it at all. What if you were to intentionally get it to ease your own anxiety by surviving it, but unintentionally pass it on to even one more person? Who then passes it on to someone who dies.

Basically, avoid getting it. IF you get it, quarantine and avoid spreading it. Heck, we’re all supposed to be acting like we have it and are trying not to spread it to anyone else, anyways.


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