Seriously, why is there so much Misogyny on WrongPlanet?!

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"Evidence."
I can't recall ever seeing this.
Perhaps it happened in a more subtle way.

I think the suspicion of "Misandry" occurs when men aren't allowed to have their own opinion.
If their opinion is in conflict with a woman's, it is THEN deemed "Misogyny" by some women.
I will NEVER accept this.

Of the three male friends she has at school, one of them has a g/f, the other two are non-binary (gay). She has two female friends who are special needs but not to the same level as she is.

I'm not relying on numbers alone, but the pew research is the broadest study done, The numbers match what is happening around the western world and in the some of the Asian countries who have socially mimicked western values. It also ties in with what I (and many on this forum) have experienced.

Just because you don't like the pattern doesn't invalidate that something is wrong.

I'm not referring specifically to women on WP.
I mean women in general, who might say they've been abused and they don't trust men.
Women who are vocal about their trauma or women's rights are often branded misandrists.

I see it all the time in the media.
To be honest, I've seen it here too.
I've had a few WP men tell me that other women are misandrists because they have trauma.
Some of them even told me lies about women members hating men, to start flame wars.

The sexist subculture here really defies explanation.
It's not "subtle" at all.
No offence, but just because you don't see something it doesn't mean women don't see it.

I call these sexist attitudes "the sordid underbelly" of WP, but I hope they're going to improve.
It's only through this type of communication that it CAN improve.

I agree men should be allowed opinions but women should also be allowed opinions.
That's what's been lacking here, for a very long time.

Even more reason why WP shouldn't divide people by gender and orientation.
At present, some people want a women's forum, a men's forum, and an LGBTQ+ forum for dating.
Where's the Human Being forum?

ALL studies need to be viewed with caution.
We can only use them as a guide and use our own critical thinking skills, our personal observations/experiences, and our own life wisdom.
That is why I use "Assuming the stats/studies are accurate".
The "should" ALWAYS be a degree of skepticism since we are not privy to all the parameters.

Surveys OFTEN have a political agenda and can skew questions to support a predetermined narrative.
Most thinking ppl with life experience know that.

Agreed.
And this is why "we" need to pay particular attention to the terminology we use.

Being sloppy with our phraseology can damage the argument made.
Using inappropriate examples will decrease the credibility of the person.
It will allow the side-stepping of the base argument.
It will be a distraction away from the point being made and allow "noise" to enter the discussion.

Please don't misrepresent me.
MY context was not seeing it HERE.
I have not seen it HERE.
If you can find a recent example HERE, I'd be interested.



Few Truthful and aware ppl would deny the existence of some toxicity on WP.
From my observation, the toxicity levels have increased, recently.
It was far, far worse 10 years ago, however.



Totally unacceptable. <joke>



The "Report Button" is accessible to all.

BTW, I would like to point out that the skunk community has been treated badly, also.

And where is the forum for Mephitidae?

This thread is a recent example.
Please reread it.
Then, the announcement from The Walrus which promises anonymity and privacy for all members.

Beyond that,

Maybe some PMs where men call women members "fleas" and "jerks" or accuse them of vendettas.
Maybe where I said my daughter had been sexually trolled, and not one man in this convo said anything.
Maybe where I asked someone to show me men's threads about women's trauma, but got no replies.
I've asked that several times over the years, btw.

Maybe having you say it's suddenly toxic here, just because women are seeking equality in this thread.
Maybe how your own partner was treated on this site in the past.
Maybe because we were told to report rather than discuss examples on the forum, but you want examples?
Maybe because smear campaigns have been started against certain individuals, and that's nothing new?

I've looked back nine years.
Yes I agree it was brutal back then.
That's why most of the women left.
That's why it doesn't look as apparent right now.
It actually means it's been more concentrated -- it's more concentrated because there are fewer targets.

That's why there's only a few of us left to sort out this mess, to salvage men's reputations.
We aren't writing on this thread for ourselves, I hope you realise.
We're writing here to save WP's public reputation and to find solutions.
Sadly, even the men who have tried to help promote equality have been maligned.

Seems like somma the same fellas that take issue with women opining about men (cos they're not men), have no issue whatsoever opining about women, despite not being women themselves.

Seems like somma those same fellas then also decide other men's opinions also don't count either, when those opinions disagree with theirs.

Seems like some guys expect their "actual lived experiences" to carry all the weight of their arguments, yet women's "actual lived experience" of dealing with men is somehow "invalid", despite being based on the exact same level of "proof".

24 pages might make it a bit tedious to go through, but even in this very thread, "women have it easier" and "women are more emotional" have both been decreed like facts, despite the former being outright against the rules (in addition to it being untrue) while the latter is a common trope used to dismiss women's opinions as overreactions rather than rational observations.

And this in the haven, where a topic that asks "why is there misogyny" really shouldn't be responded to with "BuT wHaT aBoUt AlL tHoSe LoNeLy HoRnEy MeN, hUh?!", or making it all about yourself, whoever you are, and how bad you feel or how noble you act - in someone else's thread, about their own personal concern that they posted about, in the haven.

A very real concern that was serous enough to get a new sticky posted, by the mods as a collective act, in response to a real and actual event.

Well, I'm more interested in the Truth of the matter.
I am also interested in the freedom to express one's opinion.
Mocking is your department. <joke>

Everyones too young here to remember the famous mouse utopia
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... 180954423/

It would seem those outlandish predictions based on overindulged mice seem to now apply to humans in the 2020s

It must be True.
THIS beautiful skunk has absolutely no interest in breeding.

Yes, that's precisely what happened to the mice, once the mice had everything, homes, never ending food and companionship, the female mice lost interest in breeding. The population crashed.