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14 Apr 2020, 7:43 am

Are you feeling better magz?


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14 Apr 2020, 7:50 am

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Are you feeling better magz?

Not yet.
It's quite like viral bronchitis I had a few years ago.
It likely it is viral bronchitis.


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14 Apr 2020, 8:02 am

Just be safe, and make all effort to not get complications.



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14 Apr 2020, 8:45 am

I've haven't put my TV on at all since long before the virus started, so I haven't seen one news broadcast about it. I get all my news from WP (thanks jimmy), from the links people provide (thanks everyone), and from reputable web sources e.g., Johns Hopkins Data. For people who live with others who like TV, I like Magz' suggestion. Maybe compromise that they watch 10-20 minutes a day, and preferably when you are out of the house or in the shower. People can use headphones for TV, too.

Magz, I hope you are feeling better soon. I'm sending a warm blanket and quiet space for you to recover!


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14 Apr 2020, 9:20 am

The stay at home restrictions were supposed to be lifted in my state next week, but they've been extended. A good move, to be sure. I just miss a lot of things that utilize my autonomy.


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14 Apr 2020, 12:04 pm

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It's not always easy to avoid the TV completely. If I had my way I wouldn't even have an TV aerial (just a TV used for watching DVDs or playing videogames on). But my boyfriend likes to have the TV on all day, and he doesn't like to miss the news, and I can't stop him. Yes I know I can leave the room each time the news comes on, but it's not always possible, especially that both of us use the living-room most of the time and the news usually comes on when I'm eating dinner.


It seems to affect you a lot, though.

Cheapest fix: earplugs for you. (Might not block it all out though)

Best fix: headphones for him. (Then you won’t have to listen to any of it)


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14 Apr 2020, 5:55 pm

magz wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
Are you feeling better magz?

Not yet.
It's quite like viral bronchitis I had a few years ago.
It likely it is viral bronchitis.

Wish you the best to get over it soon. :wink:


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14 Apr 2020, 7:32 pm

My sister's family (5) are getting over it now. My uncle's family (5) are feeling better after 3 weeks. My other uncle's family (3) are stable/recovering...again it's been 3 weeks for them. The rest of us (7) didn't have it yet.

These 3 families that had it already live in different parts of the UK.



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14 Apr 2020, 8:51 pm

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My sister's family (5) are getting over it now. My uncle's family (5) are feeling better after 3 weeks. My other uncle's family (3) are stable/recovering...again it's been 3 weeks for them. The rest of us (7) didn't have it yet.

These 3 families that had it already live in different parts of the UK.


Wow
Im glad they are almost on the other side of the virus n no hospitalizations I guess


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14 Apr 2020, 10:21 pm

I don't know if this was fake news or not but someone shared on Facebook a link saying these lockdowns could go on until a vaccine is in place. I cannot go on like this for another year or 18 months. The economy will definitely collapse and life wouldn't be worth living. :cry:


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15 Apr 2020, 12:54 am

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I don't know if this was fake news or not but someone shared on Facebook a link saying these lockdowns could go on until a vaccine is in place. I cannot go on like this for another year or 18 months. The economy will definitely collapse and life wouldn't be worth living. :cry:


Lol why wouldn’t life be worth living?

And meh, I could do this lockdown shot for a couple years if I Had to. It’s not great for finances or my sex life, and it
sucks having my car off the road and not being able to go to the beach or kiteboarding but overall it’s not so bad. I’ve been super lazy for a few weeks, doing a bit more each day now, and there are tons of projects I could tackle at home or different things to do here
that I haven’t bothered with for years. Like, we have a pool table, pinball machine, and video slot machine from an illegal casino lol and I literally never go downstairs to use any of them or the tv setup - I wonder if I could get Netflix to work on that tv And get the surround sound on? Hmm. Plus actual productive projects to complete, spring cleaning, home repairs and renovations, taxes I haven’t filed yet for last year.. it’s nice having this pause to do things and there are toooooons of things I can do if I want to. Lol it’d be just my luck I’d start something good and then the shop will call and say the insurance company is paying to repair my motorcycle and it’ll be ready soon and then I’d insure it and just go ride it around every sunny day.
Then I’d get f**k all else accomplished until it’s tine to go back to work. :lol:

And if the economy crashes, who really
gives a s**t? It was a sh***y system, anyways. Let it fail and create a new one.

In the meantime societies will still have economies - systems to provide our needs and wants - they’ll just look different for a while. People will grow a lot more of their own food again, some will become subsistence farmers. But people will still figure out a way to eat and survive. Sure, there won’t be high rolling times of luxury for the working class but meh whatever people have survived depressions before and can do it again.


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15 Apr 2020, 1:32 am

Well I'm glad you're so upbeat about it all, because I ain't. I won't be able to see my family in person for 18 months, and what scares me the most is I might not ever get to hug my mother again. She's had cancer and although she's cancer-free and healthy now, she's been told that the cancer has the potential to come back, and if next time around the treatment doesn't work she could die. Anything can happen in 18 months. So I am feeling terrified. I just want my mum. I don't think you understand the seriousness of this. I can't bear it. I'm crying right now.
And no matter how life-threatening this coronavirus is, people are not going to put up with this s**t for 18 months, I'm sorry but they won't. People will develop a mindset where they'd rather go out and be free and get the virus, than to live under isolating restrictions until a vaccine might become available. Trust me, that will happen.

God why do these vaccines take so long to invent? With today's medical knowledge and scientific technology, you'd have thought vaccines against coronaviruses (a family of viruses that actually has already existed for years) would take half a year. Anyone would think this is the dark ages or something. It's 2020 for Christ sake.


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15 Apr 2020, 1:53 am

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Well I'm glad you're so upbeat about it all, because I ain't. I won't be able to see my family in person for 18 months, and what scares me the most is I might not ever get to hug my mother again. She's had cancer and although she's cancer-free and healthy now, she's been told that the cancer has the potential to come back, and if next time around the treatment doesn't work she could die. Anything can happen in 18 months. So I am feeling terrified. I just want my mum. I don't think you understand the seriousness of this. I can't bear it. I'm crying right now.

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Don’t think I have any real response but that... I don’t feel concerns for people like that, it must be awful though :heart:
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And no matter how life-threatening this coronavirus is, people are not going to put up with this s**t for 18 months, I'm sorry but they won't. People will develop a mindset where they'd rather go out and be free and get the virus, than to live under isolating restrictions until a vaccine might become available. Trust me, that will happen.

I agree there, the rates of both non-compliance and conspiratorial thinking will slowly rise as this goes on: understandable, but also counterproductive.
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God why do these vaccines take so long to invent? With today's medical knowledge and scientific technology, you'd have thought vaccines against coronaviruses (a family of viruses that actually has already existed for years) would take half a year. Anyone would think this is the dark ages or something. It's 2020 for Christ sake.

A sort of topsy-turvy counterintuitive one: in the early years of modern medicine this sort of thing was done on a shorter timescale. However in response to several instances of drugs producing horrific side-effects the legally required testing of medical responses & therapies has been increased in most developed countries to protect the health of the population.
(Thalidomide would be the celebrity “it looked great, but turned out to be a disaster” case)



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15 Apr 2020, 2:00 am

I've gotten more or less used to being imprisoned in my apartment six days a week now. I knew for years something like this would happen, so I had no choice but to get used to it. But I don't think I can get used to wearing gloves and masks every time I step outside and trying to follow the arrows in the stores and people acting like I've just murdered a puppy right in front of them when I accidentally go the wrong way.

My mother still wants to hug me after she sees me on Mondays. Doesn't she realize we're all walking time bombs now and I really want to be hugged or hug someone back less than ever?

I had no life before, why should I care about having one now? Maybe I'll even sign one of those agreements not to be resuscitated at the hospital. Wait, isn't that assisted suicide? But I heard doctors are asking parents to do this with their disabled children, so that must be MURDER. :twisted:



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15 Apr 2020, 2:27 am

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In the meantime societies will still have economies - systems to provide our needs and wants - they’ll just look different for a while. People will grow a lot more of their own food again, some will become subsistence farmers. But people will still figure out a way to eat and survive. Sure, there won’t be high rolling times of luxury for the working class but meh whatever people have survived depressions before and can do it again.

As I remember the 1990s in Poland, I agree. The economy collapsing (1980s - I don't remember those but my family members give me their first-hand account) is survivable. The time of rebuilding a collapsed economy is most certainly worth living.
Economical collapse is not an Armageddon and end of the world. It's just a tough time to go through. You need to adapt but humans are incredibly adaptable.


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15 Apr 2020, 2:44 am

I still feel most things around most of the world will be open by June 1st.