What to do when you know you're pretty much worthless.

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10 Oct 2011, 1:18 am

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10 Oct 2011, 3:59 pm

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So if I don't dress nicely like a person without mental issues might dress to go to some important meeting.....I am trying to scam them? I think its more convincing if I wear my usual attire that I'm a bit messed up in the head. But I like that they are automatically assuming that.....its cool I guess........and I don't want to apply under my parents anything I am a 22 year old adult not a disabled child that wishes to be a burden on her mom until death.

And my dad has nothing going for him and lives in a different state so no I need to figure something out that does not require me to depend on either of them for anything.


Easy, easy, I'm just telling you what I know about them, not trying to say they're right or anything. My local AS group has had quite a few people go through the process before, so I'm just conveying the combined wisdom gained from multiple trips through the system.

You wouldn't be dependent on your parents if you filed as an adult disabled child, what it would allow you to do is use their social security history instead of your own for determining you level of support. I suggested it because from the sounds of it you don't have much in the way of work history, and even if accepted under your own SS number they might not be able to do all that much for you. ADC status is designed for people with long term issues that make it hard for them to work at all, which is what it sounded like you're describing. It has nothing to do with you being a child or not, just the level of support your need. Regardless of how you slice it though, you're looking at a few months at least to get approved, though they will back-pay you to the date of application when you're approved, so it would be in your interest to do it sooner rather than later.


I'm just frusterated.....I know you're trying to be helpful, most people say you get denied usually. But yeah with what I was applying for all they need is my information........the problem was I did not have enough documentation to prove my issues and well I don't know if I would have the resources to appeal it this time if it gets denied which it probably will.


I think you can get the documentation and resources you need to successfully apply if you get a mental health evaluation and talk to them about your needs. There are free clinics most places. I think you just need to get over the fear. Is it your mom learning about your use of cannabis that you fear most, or is it that you might be pressured into taking anti-depressents you don't want to take?



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10 Oct 2011, 5:08 pm

marshall wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So if I don't dress nicely like a person without mental issues might dress to go to some important meeting.....I am trying to scam them? I think its more convincing if I wear my usual attire that I'm a bit messed up in the head. But I like that they are automatically assuming that.....its cool I guess........and I don't want to apply under my parents anything I am a 22 year old adult not a disabled child that wishes to be a burden on her mom until death.

And my dad has nothing going for him and lives in a different state so no I need to figure something out that does not require me to depend on either of them for anything.


Easy, easy, I'm just telling you what I know about them, not trying to say they're right or anything. My local AS group has had quite a few people go through the process before, so I'm just conveying the combined wisdom gained from multiple trips through the system.

You wouldn't be dependent on your parents if you filed as an adult disabled child, what it would allow you to do is use their social security history instead of your own for determining you level of support. I suggested it because from the sounds of it you don't have much in the way of work history, and even if accepted under your own SS number they might not be able to do all that much for you. ADC status is designed for people with long term issues that make it hard for them to work at all, which is what it sounded like you're describing. It has nothing to do with you being a child or not, just the level of support your need. Regardless of how you slice it though, you're looking at a few months at least to get approved, though they will back-pay you to the date of application when you're approved, so it would be in your interest to do it sooner rather than later.


I'm just frusterated.....I know you're trying to be helpful, most people say you get denied usually. But yeah with what I was applying for all they need is my information........the problem was I did not have enough documentation to prove my issues and well I don't know if I would have the resources to appeal it this time if it gets denied which it probably will.


I think you can get the documentation and resources you need to successfully apply if you get a mental health evaluation and talk to them about your needs. There are free clinics most places. I think you just need to get over the fear. Is it your mom learning about your use of cannabis that you fear most, or is it that you might be pressured into taking anti-depressents you don't want to take?


Well yeah I am sure that would help its just a matter of finding out where to get a mental health evaluation....so far I have not found anywhere I looked up one place online but they only offer things like counseling not a full mental health evaluation. As for the cannabis I honestly don't care if my mom finds out or not I am an adult and its my choice so if she finds out and cant accept it I guess I wont have anywhere to live because I won't quit on account of her. As for anti-depressants I will not take them...

Ideally I would like to somehow get approved for SSI and get a licence to smoke for medicinal reasons and maybe at some point a part time job or college could happen again. But I am very burnt out on college......so I am thinking of quitting as soon as I can figure another way to have income.



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10 Oct 2011, 5:45 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
marshall wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So if I don't dress nicely like a person without mental issues might dress to go to some important meeting.....I am trying to scam them? I think its more convincing if I wear my usual attire that I'm a bit messed up in the head. But I like that they are automatically assuming that.....its cool I guess........and I don't want to apply under my parents anything I am a 22 year old adult not a disabled child that wishes to be a burden on her mom until death.

And my dad has nothing going for him and lives in a different state so no I need to figure something out that does not require me to depend on either of them for anything.


Easy, easy, I'm just telling you what I know about them, not trying to say they're right or anything. My local AS group has had quite a few people go through the process before, so I'm just conveying the combined wisdom gained from multiple trips through the system.

You wouldn't be dependent on your parents if you filed as an adult disabled child, what it would allow you to do is use their social security history instead of your own for determining you level of support. I suggested it because from the sounds of it you don't have much in the way of work history, and even if accepted under your own SS number they might not be able to do all that much for you. ADC status is designed for people with long term issues that make it hard for them to work at all, which is what it sounded like you're describing. It has nothing to do with you being a child or not, just the level of support your need. Regardless of how you slice it though, you're looking at a few months at least to get approved, though they will back-pay you to the date of application when you're approved, so it would be in your interest to do it sooner rather than later.


I'm just frusterated.....I know you're trying to be helpful, most people say you get denied usually. But yeah with what I was applying for all they need is my information........the problem was I did not have enough documentation to prove my issues and well I don't know if I would have the resources to appeal it this time if it gets denied which it probably will.


I think you can get the documentation and resources you need to successfully apply if you get a mental health evaluation and talk to them about your needs. There are free clinics most places. I think you just need to get over the fear. Is it your mom learning about your use of cannabis that you fear most, or is it that you might be pressured into taking anti-depressents you don't want to take?


Well yeah I am sure that would help its just a matter of finding out where to get a mental health evaluation....so far I have not found anywhere I looked up one place online but they only offer things like counseling not a full mental health evaluation. As for the cannabis I honestly don't care if my mom finds out or not I am an adult and its my choice so if she finds out and cant accept it I guess I wont have anywhere to live because I won't quit on account of her. As for anti-depressants I will not take them...

Okay. I just wanted to make sure that wasn't the issue. I'm sure you already know that doctors usually aren't allowed to disclose information about drugs you take to family members or force you into any kind of treatment without your personal consent.

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Ideally I would like to somehow get approved for SSI and get a licence to smoke for medicinal reasons and maybe at some point a part time job or college could happen again. But I am very burnt out on college......so I am thinking of quitting as soon as I can figure another way to have income.

Yea. I think you need a break to figure things out. I really hope you can get approved.

There are also treatments other than drugs or talk-therapy. There's things like transcranial magnetic stimulation and other mild electric treatments.



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10 Oct 2011, 5:58 pm

marshall wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
marshall wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So if I don't dress nicely like a person without mental issues might dress to go to some important meeting.....I am trying to scam them? I think its more convincing if I wear my usual attire that I'm a bit messed up in the head. But I like that they are automatically assuming that.....its cool I guess........and I don't want to apply under my parents anything I am a 22 year old adult not a disabled child that wishes to be a burden on her mom until death.

And my dad has nothing going for him and lives in a different state so no I need to figure something out that does not require me to depend on either of them for anything.


Easy, easy, I'm just telling you what I know about them, not trying to say they're right or anything. My local AS group has had quite a few people go through the process before, so I'm just conveying the combined wisdom gained from multiple trips through the system.

You wouldn't be dependent on your parents if you filed as an adult disabled child, what it would allow you to do is use their social security history instead of your own for determining you level of support. I suggested it because from the sounds of it you don't have much in the way of work history, and even if accepted under your own SS number they might not be able to do all that much for you. ADC status is designed for people with long term issues that make it hard for them to work at all, which is what it sounded like you're describing. It has nothing to do with you being a child or not, just the level of support your need. Regardless of how you slice it though, you're looking at a few months at least to get approved, though they will back-pay you to the date of application when you're approved, so it would be in your interest to do it sooner rather than later.


I'm just frusterated.....I know you're trying to be helpful, most people say you get denied usually. But yeah with what I was applying for all they need is my information........the problem was I did not have enough documentation to prove my issues and well I don't know if I would have the resources to appeal it this time if it gets denied which it probably will.


I think you can get the documentation and resources you need to successfully apply if you get a mental health evaluation and talk to them about your needs. There are free clinics most places. I think you just need to get over the fear. Is it your mom learning about your use of cannabis that you fear most, or is it that you might be pressured into taking anti-depressents you don't want to take?


Well yeah I am sure that would help its just a matter of finding out where to get a mental health evaluation....so far I have not found anywhere I looked up one place online but they only offer things like counseling not a full mental health evaluation. As for the cannabis I honestly don't care if my mom finds out or not I am an adult and its my choice so if she finds out and cant accept it I guess I wont have anywhere to live because I won't quit on account of her. As for anti-depressants I will not take them...

Okay. I just wanted to make sure that wasn't the issue. I'm sure you already know that doctors usually aren't allowed to disclose information about drugs you take to family members or force you into any kind of treatment without your personal consent.

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Ideally I would like to somehow get approved for SSI and get a licence to smoke for medicinal reasons and maybe at some point a part time job or college could happen again. But I am very burnt out on college......so I am thinking of quitting as soon as I can figure another way to have income.

Yea. I think you need a break to figure things out. I really hope you can get approved.

There are also treatments other than drugs or talk-therapy. There's things like transcranial magnetic stimulation and other mild electric treatments.


Yeah I know they can't force anti-depressants on me or disclose information I don't want disclosed to my family so I am not worried about that.....now I am just worried about finding somewhere to be psychologically evaluated.

Also the magnetic thing might not be too bad except for how expensive it would probably be....but no electricity in my brain, I would prefer to keep my memories.