Why suicide prevention fails.

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Don't be sorry for being comfortable.

Brings up an interesting question. Why is it okay to tell people you're sorry about some things that aren't your fault but not others? I'm assuming that what you meant was that you were sorry for her misery. One can also say something similar at a funeral. But, I am always getting in trouble extending this reasoning a little - someone bangs into something, and I say that I'm sorry; someone has a bad day, and I say the same. People then tell me, "it's not your fault." I bloody well know it's not my fault. I'm just expressing sympathy. How do people understand this line?

From what I gather about other people's posts I think my idea isn't far off sometimes. If given the choice, I would end it, because I'm too afraid of getting "help" instead of help if I needed it.

ah, yes, the choice of 'ending it' What would we do with out that 'out'?

I sit here in what the doc calls 'habitual' pain because of the osteoarthritis in all the little fractures of my back caused when I raced my bicycle down the hill and jumped off - to 'end it'.
Well, it takes a lot of courage to do something that dumb, and it is difficult to get up that courage again, so here I sit. Damaged, brain concussion, big rip in my face that healed to a 14 inch scar across my right cheek, crippled by gravity and the years and now with the added pain of the bones grating across each other.

So be careful out there. Suicide might seem like the answer, and believe me, I certainly understand the reasons you might be thinking of it. And it is WONDERFUL to have an 'escape clause' when you are facing what we face every day. It's just that you can make it so much worse with out even getting what you think you want.

and now, now that I have damaged myself through this and other unhealthy habits, now I learn about AS and have a bit of health insurance to get the treatment to help the pain go away - I am starting to think that life is ok to keep on living.
I will leave it to you to consider the irony.
Best wishes,
Merle

I agree with the "shoulder to lean on" approach. Using force to prevent suicide should be the last resort, since it neither comforts the suicidal person nor necessarily dissuades them from planning a future attempt. But, I imagine some people are one-time suicide attempters, who just approached that percipice once, and it scared the living $#!^ out of them, thankfully.

There are a lot of measures in place to deal with preventing the act of Suicide. But once that threat is over, there is no real support.

I know I can't do much, but I can at least listen to people and try to support them. In a small way, I think I've helped a few people.

If anyone is calling a suicide support line, they should dial *67 before the actual phone number. This feature prevents the caller's number from being displayed on Caller ID. This way, the suicidal person can still get the help he/she needs, without being tracked down and thrown into a mental hospital.

This system still has something badly wrong with it. It punishes people for needing and seeking help. "Therapy" is often quite punishing. When I was in inpatient therapy they did things to me. Their idea of "peculiar" when it was me was just plain crazy. The fact that I wanted regular exercise and to read a book before I went to bed was part of my eccentricity. I think so was the fact that I wanted no drugs and was perfectly content to do without alcohol.

yeah... having someone threaten to kill herself to stop me from attempting suicide was just a bit of a mindf**k

Fortunately I have found positive and more or less private things to comfort myself. Just because it "might hurt someone" is not a good reason to avoid suicide, but if a person finds any way to embrace life at all, if he finds that lifeline, then he's good to go.

Owners of 800 numbers have a different system to identify the caller. You're better off using a phone card, preferable from an obscure company that you purchase with cash.

That sounds seriously messed up (the therapists, not you). I would have thought that most would be happy about reading, regular exercise and abstaining from mind altering substances. They sound rather in need of therapy themselves.

Yeah, tell me about it. They make a guy want to kill himself.

Don't give them the satisfaction!

I want to crawl away and hide somewhere but my life would go on without me. That's why I would like to commit suicide, there wouldn't be a life to go on with and I could get away. Going on like this is unbearable.

There's always another option. Not hiding, and not facing life as you see it, but running away from it, and enjoying living. Thoreaux did it. It's harder now, but can still be done. I know guys living on the streets who have chosen this option.

Life on the steets has quite a few downsides as well, calandale. I probably should not make this pronouncement until I try it, but if one has issues with life in one place there is a fair chance one will have other, equally trying issues with another place.