feeling hopeless.

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What hint? I was the one not getting it

thought didn't make the rock move, same as thought doesn't change how your face looks. I'm ugly. showed picture and girl said it too.

though now looking last night would bee best time to end it. just another bang in the night of bangs. though I think I've settled on painkillers and razor. now just waiting for the right time and this fear of death and self preservation to go away.

I hope it's a long time.

Is there anything we can do to help?

Don't let other people define who you are or rob you of happiness.

You are at a vulnerable age: under 30. Many have felt as worthless as you but they persevered, and today they are contented.

Please get professional medical assistance as soon as you can.

no thanks so many people get worse on drugs and I'd lose my rights which one of the few things that I enjoy in life. I don't take drugs any drugs.

but it won't get better. I'm not some guy starting his career feeling down . I have no chance at a carreer, which really ddidn't bother me, but it means a lot to women.

why?

You might want to try CBT. There are other options besides medication.

I can only guess why you started this thread, and my best guess is that you felt alone. So the answer to why is because you as a person are saying that you suffer and if there is a way to offer you some comfort I and others would want to do that for you, just as I, and I imagine others, want that for ourselves.

But I am taking you very literally and it occurs to me you might be asking why you should keep going. The answer is I am not telling you what you should do, I am asking what we can do for you or whether you can see any hope because I don't want to judge your life for you, it seems to upset you when we argue too much.

I am glad you keep responding, though. And it seems to me that people like you here.

I don't think you have to avoid treatment, either. No one can read your mind and know what you're thinking if you choose not to tell them, so you don't risk your freedom by asking for help, you decide what and how much to say. And while I don't think you should lie, it's an option if you don't want to say anything about suicide. You can call a hotline too because of being down, if you don't want to mention suicide, most won't make you.

I hope you will reach out IRL for help because you are unhappy. And maybe it might help.

what is CBT?

meant why would you care/ hope It is long away. I feel its getting closer. use to say 35 now considering 30 . life just gets worse and worse. and I don't ever leave house again any chance of it getting better is all but completely dead.

while there are possible things people could do its unlikely they would or will. I've learned people only care as so much as one doesn't die but not enough to actually make effort to prevent such thing.
i honestly don't know though there is some hope or Id already killed myself. I need to figure out how to completely remove it. everyone judges my life. most deem me worthless without ever getitng to know me beyond a job title.

we've argued?

people say that but only one person from here ever pursued a friendship as of lately.

in the use they take gun rights for depression and suicide. so yyou can't tell your doctor, therapist or anyone who is a mandatory reporter, they dont' bother to find out if you're a actul risk of using a gun to kill yourself. yet are find leaving you with 99% of the other ways to do it. more about gun control then helping people it is. anyway to take guns away.
I like guns they are my main interest. I feel safer with them. I'm not a tough mean guy. I'm a cuddly teddy bear. so I can't physically defend myself. sure some here will say that makes me a coward or not a man. but I'm a peace loving violence avoiding person. yet I will defend myself or others. if have to so gun. I enjoy target shooting its also a great social thing to go out with people and shoot.

as with gun crime, they don't' bother going after the source of depression but rather just drugging people up or telling them to get some sunshine. or the why aren't you happy.

last therapist took others side. and focused on the job problem which isn't my main source of depression. I really could care less if I work or not if I had a gf I'd be find. not saying just a gf, but I have the other things tht should make me happy. I have a house, my games, a car, animals, hobbies etc. I don't place much worth on money, job, status. but that's what he focused on including taking the side of the job developer that even my family thought was wrong.

Cognitive Behaviour Therapy.

What is your evidence that you would lose your rights if you took antidepressants? Which rights?

welp about out of food. I have food stamps but I shouldn't go out so i don't know what to do.

Friend, you say you have all these things: hobbies, a social circle, animals, a home, car etc. But nothing of these things makes you happy, but a girlfriend would? I think you need to look into yourself and see why what you have is not enough first. Because you have most of the components people would need for a content life.
And as always, no one will make you happy, you will make you happy. Don't misunderstand, others are very important, but it's what you do with them that makes you happy, not their mere presence.

If you don't want to seek professional help, at least try to find out what makes you happy, and start doing it, what animals do you have and how do you like to spend time with them, I have an English Mastiff that I love and adore above all else, he's always there and always happy when I'm there with him. Best friend anyone could ever have.


You might also want to consider looking into MGTOW. Good luck friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy-atlNSG2c

objects and animals are good for shot happiness. play a game you enjoy it yes> but then it ends. then its back to not having a game. I view happiness as a puzzle. see to get happiness is a combination of a bunch of things. ever put a puzzle together and have it be missing few pieces. bet that makes you upset. you probably throw the puzzle away. call the store/manufacturer and complain. well that's happiness to me. I have almost all the pieces but I'm missing the big key ones. I've put it together but the face of the cat in the puzzle is missing so now I have a picture of a faceless cat. sorry if I don't enjoy that.

I've never ever ever met a people person who is happy alone. I've met non people persons who are happy with just objects and hobbies. people people need people. that's kinda how it works for us. we don't' understand you all anymore then you understand us. I really dont' get how a person could for example be happy living alone in thier house building model planes ll the time. its bazaar to me. they'd probably think its odd i could be happy with a woman.

i really can't understand how we can say there's aspies and nts, and there's different cultures and people have different sexual interests, but everyone must have the same way to happiness and anyone who doesn't is wrong. reality check people are all different and different in different ways. so maybe I find a people person woman, and we make both of us happy by being together is that so wrong?

you said its what you do with people that make you happy so dyou don't need anone around so they usless then. no I actually just enjoy people . I enjoy just talking to them. yeah doing activities alone is not fun to me. I don't enjoy doing stuff alone. again I'm a people person. I hated video games until I found my gaming clan. I dont' enjoy walking alone(ruins the point to me) I don't like shooting alone. if its what you do with people that makes you happy, then why does simply holding someone s hand in a room make people happy. I think its being around that special person that makes people happy that makes people enjoy actives. why else would we make so many actibies that require you to have another person , why would we form cities and civilizations, dating, relationships, marriages, our whole human existence is based off of happiness of begin with people without that we'd stayed tribal. imagine if everyone back in the day had just been alone doing their hobbies. civilization never would have started if people were all content being alone.


being with a woman makes me happy, haning with friends make me happy. I know what makes me happy, people who think that's wrong makes me sad.

animals won't hug you kiss you, cuddle you, watch movies with you, go to dinners with you, camp with you. animals are so very limited in how they interact with humans, it the primary goal to interact with others of their species. so they spend time doing what makes them happy and that is spending time with the other cats playing around, cuddling together and sleeping.

i do thank you though I think your heart was in the right place. I'm just sick of being told my way of happiness is wrong only because its different. while the same people often encourage and fight for other differences. so its ok to have a different sexual orientation but not a different happiness orientation. and yeah given my worthlessness to women I'll likely never be happy but I can't change how I find happiness anyomre then someone can change which gender they are attracted to. I've never found long term happiness in objects. never will. if I was a billionare then perhaps I could spend millions and millions constantly buying new things every few mintutes and keep happy til I died. but I'd have to waste so much money and trhow so much stuff away constantly chasing the next new object. sounds more like a bad habbit. for people who can' find happines from objects great for you. different ways of happiness. I don't judge you for that. I don't get it but thats fine we dont' have to get each other we just need to respect our differences.

I think you're misunderstanding a bit what I'm trying to say friend.
My point is that it's easier to find love and friends when you're all doing things that you all enjoy doing. So instead of seeing it as different parts you could try to use it as stepping stones to a greater one?


Hmm, my dog is my companion and I do most things with him, long lasting friendship for soon 10 years.


Dogs.

I found my girl a year ago, didn't look for one, we started as friends, now we talk 5-7 hours/day everyday, we even sleep together over Skype despite living in different countries.

Wish you all the best friend, and the only thing I can give you is the advice I've followed myself for this relationship: Anything that feel like the right thing to do: Do the opposite. It has worked like a charm.