why do women have to be so mean and condecending

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19 Aug 2015, 1:42 am

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Not all women are like that. That would be like saying all men want to control women and sit in their man cave drinking beer, scratching themselves, and communicate only in grunts while their wives do all the cooking and cleaning.

A lot of men are like that. But not all of them.


That is exactly what I believed about all men for maybe 35 years. It's a good description of home. Mom used to warn me against love at first sight. My brothers saw women as waitresses etc. If attracted to a guy, I would run for the hills and if he followed, I'd be mean. Anything to save myself from this white-slaver (any man).

I've had years of therapy; it's safe to approach now. I'm only 64.

I truly never believed any man had feelings or could be in good faith. You make me think I should do Step X - Make Retribution - yikes, that a lot of trying remember. But coming out here might be a start.

Advice: If you speak and she doesn't answer, give up immediately.


Retribution ?



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19 Aug 2015, 1:43 am

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You're normal man who dare to disclose his wimpy sissy self which is not bad thing at all.

hmm



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19 Aug 2015, 1:53 am

I know men have wimpy sissy side, so that's normal. Don't be offended Sly.


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19 Aug 2015, 1:55 am

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Sly equates women being condescending to women wanting him to die.

This is erroneous.

Sly has lots of virtues, I'm sure.


no i relate them saying I'm sub standard and worthless to wanting me to die. they see me as a burden surely me dieing would then free them of that burden

condescending is just mean. its treating people like children. I've noticed women do it a lot when they disagree with you but dont' just say so. they pretend to agree with you in a condecending tone. so you know they don't actually agrree with you. its a mind game meant to confuse and belittle us.

maybe but non of them matter without the high income. many women say I'd make a good bf until they find out I make min wage. so they like that I'm romantic, kind, caring, sweet, cute, funny, and sexual stuff, but all that goes into the trash over income. baffers me how women will have a guy that meets 99% of their wants and refuse him over a single issue, they want perfection.

though some will accept a guy who lacks all the stuff I do as long as he has high income.

to me this is insane. money isnt' important. all the other stuff. you know personality and intersts is the important things. or you might as well just be a whore and exchange sex for money. if you are witha guy who doens't meat the other stuff you want but has money then that's what they'll doing. sure its not outright because you're pretending to have a relationship. but if you exchanging your sex for his income what else is it?
not saying all women do this, but some women even say they give the guy "comfort" for his income. can they really not see it for what it is?

got in a arguement wtih lady over it. shes like the majority of women so I thoght since shes talking to me I could ask her about that stuff and find out whats the min money the majority of women like here would accept but she wont' anwser.

i don't get it. they say they not asshamed of it and they right ot demand it so why act ashamed by not answering.

if you ask me about stuff I do and I'm not asshamed of it I'll tell you. most people will talk about stuff they aren't ashamed of but won't if they are. so is part of her ashamed shes superficial?


I hate to say it, I am a woman, but way too many women do indeed look at income. I remember in high school, anytime I went out with someone, my girlfriends would first ask "what kind of car does he drive?" Then when I left high school and had a job, like in my late 20s, they would STILL ask what kind of car he drove and what he did for a living. My answer was always "I have no freaking idea, who cares?" Yes, I am sure there are women out there that are not like that, but sadly, from my experience MOST women look at income. No, maybe because I am on the spectrum I never gave a s#$%$...My husband made less than 20K a year when we met, I made 3 times that...He had a blue collar job repairing ACs, I had a white collar job and traveled the world. We are still together. I helped him do better because he hated his job at the time. It's been 16 yrs and we are still together. Sometimes I want to STRANGLE HIM lol but not because of his income, but because he's not very good at planning, lives for today only, etc...

I highly suggest you tell women exactly how much you make as soon as you meet them and avoid the BS.



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19 Aug 2015, 2:02 am

sly279 wrote:
Claradoon wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
Not all women are like that. That would be like saying all men want to control women and sit in their man cave drinking beer, scratching themselves, and communicate only in grunts while their wives do all the cooking and cleaning.

A lot of men are like that. But not all of them.


That is exactly what I believed about all men for maybe 35 years. It's a good description of home. Mom used to warn me against love at first sight. My brothers saw women as waitresses etc. If attracted to a guy, I would run for the hills and if he followed, I'd be mean. Anything to save myself from this white-slaver (any man).

I've had years of therapy; it's safe to approach now. I'm only 64.

I truly never believed any man had feelings or could be in good faith. You make me think I should do Step X - Make Retribution - yikes, that a lot of trying remember. But coming out here might be a start.

Advice: If you speak and she doesn't answer, give up immediately.


Retribution ?


WOW! I meant restitution, of course.
What other darkness still lurks in the depths of my soul?



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19 Aug 2015, 2:59 am

Claradoon wrote:
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Claradoon wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
Not all women are like that. That would be like saying all men want to control women and sit in their man cave drinking beer, scratching themselves, and communicate only in grunts while their wives do all the cooking and cleaning.

A lot of men are like that. But not all of them.


That is exactly what I believed about all men for maybe 35 years. It's a good description of home. Mom used to warn me against love at first sight. My brothers saw women as waitresses etc. If attracted to a guy, I would run for the hills and if he followed, I'd be mean. Anything to save myself from this white-slaver (any man).

I've had years of therapy; it's safe to approach now. I'm only 64.

I truly never believed any man had feelings or could be in good faith. You make me think I should do Step X - Make Retribution - yikes, that a lot of trying remember. But coming out here might be a start.

Advice: If you speak and she doesn't answer, give up immediately.


Retribution ?


WOW! I meant restitution, of course.
What other darkness still lurks in the depths of my soul?


hugs. you dont' seem too bad.



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20 Aug 2015, 6:36 am

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20 Aug 2015, 10:23 am

Big hugs for sly!



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20 Aug 2015, 10:28 am

sly279 wrote:
its just frustrating. this post was a vent because this woman was being condescending to me.

Hugs, sly
I'm sorry this woman upset you.



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20 Aug 2015, 10:30 am

That person probably has her own problems, and is taking them out on you. You must not let these people gain the victory.



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20 Aug 2015, 10:39 am

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20 Aug 2015, 10:45 am

I'm afraid that I might make sly get offended due to my limited vocabulary regardless my good intension. :cry:


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20 Aug 2015, 11:33 am

Resentment.
Women had to just sit down and do what they were told for a very long time. Now that it is coming to an end, I think there is a kind of backlash. They view men as the abusive Father that beat their asses and then gave them an ice cream cone. It is nice that the oppression has mostly stopped but it will take a bit more time before the water settles and the wounds heal. I can not think of a group of people that are more hated right now than white males, add a dash of Autism and U. S. policies... well, you get the idea.



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24 Aug 2015, 1:58 am

Drawyer wrote:
I'm afraid that I might make sly get offended due to my limited vocabulary regardless my good intension. :cry:


hugs . no you didn't offend me.



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24 Aug 2015, 3:06 am

Sly - I'm sorry you're having a hard time. I don't know if If it breaks Haven rules to offer encouragement (it's not quite support or understanding)? I'll do it anyway: I'm female, my boyfriend is on min wage, I don't expect him to be perfect, or rich, and I doubt I'm the only woman who thinks this way. If you DO want advice/a woman's perspective, pm me :).



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24 Aug 2015, 3:35 am

sly279 wrote:
hugs . no you didn't offend me.

Thanks for your hugs and good for you sly. I gave my advice from my experience before somewhere in this thread, I live as an ultimate loner as well. If a man want himself to be an exception in my principle, let him be, but I won't expect. The interesting thing is though I found that the happier as a loner I am, the more men try to break in my happiness of being alone trying to make themselves as exceptions in my principle.


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