If you are an aspie than no suicide for you!

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Graelwyn
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01 May 2007, 4:21 am

LadyCass wrote:
Graelwyn wrote:
Gilb wrote:
"Suicide is a permanent solution for temporary problems"


That is a moot point, really. People who have terminal cancer do not have a temporary problem.
People who have an ongoing mental disorder that causes them distress year after year after year, would not consider their problems to be temporary. Temporary is something that lasts a short time and then goes. Many issues are ongoing or repeat themselves time and time again, and therefore are not so temporary. It often is a build up of these 'temporary' problems that causes a person to go over the edge, anyway.


But mental issues can be resolved and/or lessened usually, with time, patience, and help. Of course, it takes a lot of willpower, but they can be temporary if you choose to make them so and stick to it. Don't give up the battle before you've started.

Anywhom, I understand suicide and there are days that it is tempting, but I don't think that people should do it, whether they are aspies or nuerotypicals.


I am torn on this one. At times, when I imagine others suffering as I have done at times, I think to myself...is it fair to decide they shouldn't have the choice to escape? But by the same token, I do value human life and do not wish to see it wasted if there is any hope...and tend to try and talk people out of it if it is mentioned.



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01 May 2007, 4:48 am

Mitch8817 wrote:
So it is life that is the temporary problem?


Compared to death...yeah it is. I've already been dead for trillions of years (it's probably closer to an infinite amount actually), my minute existence is nothing compared to that.



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01 May 2007, 5:39 am

I firmly believe that people should
be able to make their own minds
up on this. But, I violated my
beliefs when it came to preventing
my wife from killing herself.

Purely from selfish motives,
and it helped tear us further
apart.



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01 May 2007, 5:41 am

I reckon if you really want to kill yourself, you would...you can't blame the people who love you from bringing you back.

This is from personal experience with someone I loved...I think they wanted to die, but the will to live was still there in some form...



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01 May 2007, 5:43 am

Oh, I wasn't in a position to
save her. I insisted that she
promise not to try again.



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01 May 2007, 5:49 am

The person I loved did eventually succeed in killing themselves, but it was a long slow death of addiction and cigarettes.

Sometimes I wish they had succeeded in the first place to save themselves the pain, not everyone else.



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01 May 2007, 6:14 am

Yeah. I've been trying in various
equally passive ways. Problem
is, I just seem to end up immune
to it all.



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01 May 2007, 4:10 pm

calandale wrote:
Gilb wrote:
"Suicide is a permanent solution for temporary problems"


Stop trying to convince me.
Honestly, this is the best pro-
suicide line that I've heard.


Just how "temporary" are these problems supposed to be?



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31 May 2010, 7:08 pm

damn i disagree statistaclly we are the inferior race while we look talk and act like "them" we are not them. this world isn';t for us so i rate the need for suicide by how well you blend in if you are happy with friends lover then hey you don't need to kill your self but if you are a loser with no prsepects then f**k all you may want to. i am a realist so my opion is that by all that destiny and self help bs is for idiots we are perectly able to divine our own life. but some people are ment to suffer



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31 May 2010, 10:21 pm

If you commit suicide, you rob yourself of all you can become, whether you are an aspie or an NT. The mediocre want to take everything away from you: your happiness, the results of your good works, your confidence, and the ultimate achievement for them is to take away your will to live. Whether they can hurt you is ultimately under your control. It is anything but easy to control, but you are ultimately in control, not them, no matter who they are, and success at controlling it will beget more success until, eventually, it is entirely under your control and they can no longer hurt you.

More focus helps and if you abandon that which the mediocre expect of you, you will be free. When you achieve great things in spite of their social corrections, when you rise higher and higher and learn to bend (for this is necessary at times), but not break when the scythe of fairness sweeps through, eventually you will rise so high that you will no longer see them through the clouds below. You will be competing only with yourself because you are the only person left worthy of competing with. You will know thrills and joy they can only dream of. You will know what it really means to be human. You belong, not them. They are the impostors and the wretched.

They know that. That is why they hate you so and that is why they aren't deserving of your concern.

Need proof? The next time one of them tries to hurt you, ignore them - honestly ignore them, not with any feeling of negativity whatsoever, but a feeling of pure indifference without malice and with all due politeness one should give to every human, regardless of whether they deserve it. They will eventually come to say something like, "You think you're better than me," or something like that. Tell them the honest truth: that you don't think of them at all. Watch the reaction to that. Watch the expression on their face and see the depth of their hate. It will tell you everything you ever need to know about them.



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01 Jun 2010, 5:34 pm

Well, here's an idea . . . something ive been toying with. I do admit to having the suicidal thoughts (im on medication, and yes i know nothing is not 100%), but recently, ive come across the idea of instead going into sedation/sleep for a full year to replace the suicide. I think it helps a bit, and there might be other strategies for curbing it. Its not 100% at the moment, but i think it keeps a bit of the harshness in check.



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01 Jun 2010, 5:55 pm

I'll always want to kill myself because I can't find love.