Arghh so sick of alcoholic world!

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05 Jun 2016, 1:19 am

I don't mind if people drink, but the constant mentions of alcohol in music and TV is really hard for me. I'm in AA (sober for almost a month!), and I'm finally seeing how prevalent it really is in the media.

Seeing people constantly talk about drinking, especially people my age, makes it especially difficult to stay sober.

While I don't look down on other people for drinking, I just wish mentions of binge drinking and "functional alcoholism" could be more easily avoided.


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05 Jun 2016, 4:53 pm

Luke Skywalker wrote:
I don't mind if people drink, but the constant mentions of alcohol in music and TV is really hard for me. I'm in AA (sober for almost a month!), and I'm finally seeing how prevalent it really is in the media.

Seeing people constantly talk about drinking, especially people my age, makes it especially difficult to stay sober.

While I don't look down on other people for drinking, I just wish mentions of binge drinking and "functional alcoholism" could be more easily avoided.


It is an unfortunate for many young people in their 20s stuck on alcohol. Some of my friends talk about it and drinks a lot. Its normal here in Australia, where are we second highest alcohol consumption in the world. Young people's minds are all over this, at the same time trying to figure out what they are and what they want in their life. I think alcohol is a bad reason for young people who are trying themselves out.



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05 Jun 2016, 5:33 pm

I would like to add to my previous post. Here is an article about political parties in Australia per alcohol consumption:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/0 ... vey-finds/

Greens party which I am involved with is the heaviest drinker than to all other parties including major parties. Why this is so? Majority of Greens voters, supporters and members are youngest compared to two major parties. This is one of many evidence of young people drinks a lot more than anyone above 30. The current generation is an alcoholic one. It is so ironic that the party's policy is against high alcohol consumption.

EDIT: Just found a research on this: http://fare.org.au/2016/05/annual-alcoh ... ehaviours/

It is very interesting to see how people respond to it. It definitely a control problem.



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06 Jun 2016, 3:05 am

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In the UK especially with the young people there is a massive drinking culture. Seems to me that they hate their lives and they spend their working week looking forward to the weekend's binge drinking. Then they blow all their wage and feel like crap for days, but can function enough to go to their tedious underpaid job..and then it all starts again. They don't have the energy to make changes in their lives, so they continue to be slaves. They certainly don't have the time, energy or intact brain cells to say, start a revolution.


I think this culture is in decline now. Well Manchester these days is no where as busy now compared to what it was.

But you are exactly correct in your evaluation I know a lot of people who are like that. Not that I don't mind a drink on a Friday night (strictly no alcohol in week is norm) but that's a takeaway few beers and chill after a hard week. But in my teenage years I definitely was like that.


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06 Jun 2016, 3:16 am

@OP have you ever considered changing what society you live in? you don't have to live in one which uses alcohol so much or even go to one that doesn't drink at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... per_capita


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06 Jun 2016, 10:34 pm

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@OP have you ever considered changing what society you live in? you don't have to live in one which uses alcohol so much or even go to one that doesn't drink at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... per_capita


If other people's choices distress you so much, perhaps moving somewhere people don't have any choice will solve the problem. :wink:


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06 Jun 2016, 10:59 pm

I would be interested to see the difference between alcohol world of New Orleans and Australia. Offering a beer to a guest in your home is considered to be the norm for many 20-40 year olds here. Refusing the drink will not make offerer of the beer see as you weak but just rejecting hospitality. You're not necessarily seen as odd if you don't drink here and it is understandable if you are trying to hold back on the booze for a bit. There are also certain varying group types here. There are the casual drinkers, the binge drinkers, one drink a week drinkers, the never drinkers etc... We just keep things a little more chill over here.


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06 Jun 2016, 11:00 pm

80% of ED admissions here over the weekend are alcohol related, so most of the ED doctors really hate the habitual booze culture and the demands it makes on service provision and capability. If they voted with their feet and left for a booze free country, their departure would endanger the lives of the problem drinkers and their victims. There are real problems in booze culture countries (NZ is also one) and the cultural impacts are hard to escape - I drive a motor car and my driving safety is more endangered if I have to drive on Saturday nights because of the much increased number of drunks driving then. That's the way it is, but that's not the way it has to be, or the only way it can be. There's a difference between being anti-alcohol per se (which I am not) and having a dislike for "booze saturated cultures". Alcohol enjoys a sacred cow status in booze cultures, (it certainly does here) and dissenting voices tend to treated as if they are just spoilsports. Some of us are actually concerned citizens, for our own well being and for the victims of the carnage.



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07 Jun 2016, 2:18 am

funeralxempire wrote:
ZD wrote:
@OP have you ever considered changing what society you live in? you don't have to live in one which uses alcohol so much or even go to one that doesn't drink at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... per_capita


If other people's choices distress you so much, perhaps moving somewhere people don't have any choice will solve the problem. :wink:


haha, that's not quite what I meant :) but yes a lot of places that don't drink certainly are like that.


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07 Jun 2016, 2:24 am

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There are real problems in booze culture countries (NZ is also one) and the cultural impacts are hard to escape - I drive a motor car and my driving safety is more endangered if I have to drive on Saturday nights because of the much increased number of drunks driving then. That's the way it is, but that's not the way it has to be, or the only way it can be..


Yes that is bad, I am glad England has sort of got the drink drivers under control now. It's no longer the norm to go to the pub have 8 pints and drive home 8O. People will actually report you these days and the police will be waiting for you to leave.... Also people accept if your driving you won't drink alcohol (ages ago they would just look at you funny). But there is still the minority who still drink and drive a lot actually think they are fine :roll:.

I suppose though this will vary on the area in England I am not sure the rural areas will be so stringent but the towns/cities certainly are.


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07 Jun 2016, 9:34 am

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funeralxempire wrote:
ZD wrote:
@OP have you ever considered changing what society you live in? you don't have to live in one which uses alcohol so much or even go to one that doesn't drink at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... per_capita


If other people's choices distress you so much, perhaps moving somewhere people don't have any choice will solve the problem. :wink:


haha, that's not quite what I meant :) but yes a lot of places that don't drink certainly are like that.


Oh, I know. Reinterpretation.
If going somewhere with a reduced drinking culture doesn't work (like for an authoritarian neo-prohibitionist) they shouldn't feel entitled to insist their culture which is highly opposed to prohibition needs to change - they need to go somewhere where prohibition is the norm. Mind you, even the nations with alcohol consumption banned under Sharia have problems with drinking - prohibition is a pretend solution, not a real solution.


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12 Jun 2016, 12:26 am

If it a pretend solution that doesn't work. Then why we all never have enough opportunity to invest more in education?



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12 Jun 2016, 10:39 am

Ecomatt91 wrote:
If it a pretend solution that doesn't work. Then why we all never have enough opportunity to invest more in education?


You don't have to drink, you don't have to go places alcohol is served, you do t have to hang out with people who drink. 100% your call.

Prohibition didn't work in the US. Failed big time. Licensing, regulating and taxing works way better.

Why rage against the fact that others enjoy something (be it alcohol, Matt Damon movies or Settlers of Catan) that you don't?



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12 Jun 2016, 5:08 pm

The Haven isn't really about issuing angry or political challenges to criticise what OPs do or think or feel. It's a different kind of forum set up for people to seek support and understanding for issues that cause them pain or difficulty.



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12 Jun 2016, 6:13 pm

Raging against booze doesn't seem to be helping OP. Nor does he appear to be interested in changing his life to avoid the people/places where booze is present.

He wants sympathy, for no reason other the fact that he wants sympathy.



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12 Jun 2016, 6:33 pm

Personal attacks are not allowed on any WP forums, especially The Haven. Please review the rules as you are straying very close to formal warning territory, which is why previous comments of yours have already been edited out of this thread.

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