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05 May 2018, 10:27 am

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Men get very upset when a woman rejects him.

To a man, rejection means they are not viable men. It’s a bruise to their ego.

It’s hard to break away from that notion.

But where do men get the idea that they've been rejected?
He approached and spoke to a total stranger who, in
accordance with all rules from family and police, ignored him.

I don't mean in a bar. Men behave like the whole world is a bar.
Barring your noble self, to be sure.

Who said, "As long as you are desirable?" So man decides, based
on his own imagination, that woman is desirable, and therefore
she owes him. I would say that enough men in my city behave
like they believe that. How to change this thinking?



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05 May 2018, 10:31 am

It’s something instinctual, I believe.

And it’s also social conditioning.

Just tell the guy that you’ve been taught not to talk to strangers, and that it’s no reflection on him personally. If he persists, ignore him. If he gets stupid, call the cops.



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05 May 2018, 10:32 am

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Just tell the guy, in a respectful tone, that you feel like reading. If he doesn’t take the hint, don’t respond to him. If he continues, talk to someone at the gate desk. He could be drunk.

If I prefer a book to him, that too is a blow to his ego. Believe me, been there done that.
He's not the pilot, do they care if he's drunk?



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05 May 2018, 10:37 am

If he’s drunk, they might not let him board the plane.

People have less social control when they’re drunk.

You have to treat a drunk person with caution.



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05 May 2018, 10:53 am

Anyone who gets "very upset" when someone rejects them needs to grow up. Seriously. There is no excuse for acting like a spoiled brat brat just because someone rejects you. That's life. Get over it, or don't play the game.

Oh, and the game board is not the entire world either. In most places people just wanna get from A to B to get stuff done. They don't wanna be harassed by some douche who thinks the women he comes across are just dying to get with a "stud" like him. :roll:

Everyone has the right to reject whoever they choose. No one is owed a shot.


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05 May 2018, 11:10 am

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Why are men enraged if a woman ignores them in a public place? When I was young & cute, there were men approaching me everywhere. But the rule is: don't talk to strangers. That's all. Why do they blow their stack(s)? If you don't already know my name, then leave me alone. There's a seething hatred in men's response to being ignored - I still don't know why.

"She deserves what she gets." She deserves to be left alone. Also, a woman reading a book is enjoying herself; there is no need to rescue her from it.

"Well then, what did you get all dressed up for?" (1) not for any stranger. (2) jeans, sneakers, and a jacket do not constitute 'all dressed up.' I've always wondered why men think this is a clever thing to say, especially at 10am on a Saturday outside a grocery store.

I would like this conversation to get bigger - for men to say *why* they are angry.
I don't disagree with your point at all and your later ones but I don't understand why you've put them on Sly's post about people hating single men. I don't believe Sly behaves like the men you describe who seem very confident. I also think the majority of men who chase after what they see as young pretty girls in public places with no encouragement at all are not single, particularly the ones who don't respect the boundaries.

I don't think talking to someone you don't know is always wrong, though, but maybe this is a cultural difference, I talk to strangers all the time.


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05 May 2018, 11:38 am

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I don't understand why you've put them on Sly's post about people hating single men.


You must of misread the title as this is the bash Sly and bring him down thread


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05 May 2018, 12:11 pm

Learning about the disgusting incel discussions has not caused me to hate anyone in this forum. Several people have accomplished that on their own, with relentless negativity and a need to make every discussion about their perpetual complaints.

I do worry about the combination of a toxic worldview which encourages resentful victimhood, and mentally unstable people. Anyone not worry about that in most cases?

If facing facts makes you intolerable or suicidal, don't face those facts. I recommend Camus's Absurdism. Face the fact of gravity and the like, and deny less concrete reality to the extent necessary to achieve a positive mindset.


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05 May 2018, 1:17 pm

Sly, I wasn't aiming at you. I was asking why men in general exhibit certain behaviours.



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05 May 2018, 1:30 pm

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Anyone who gets "very upset" when someone rejects them needs to grow up. Seriously. There is no excuse for acting like a spoiled brat brat just because someone rejects you. That's life. Get over it, or don't play the game.

Oh, and the game board is not the entire world either. In most places people just wanna get from A to B to get stuff done. They don't wanna be harassed by some douche who thinks the women he comes across are just dying to get with a "stud" like him. :roll:

Everyone has the right to reject whoever they choose. No one is owed a shot.


So anything other than total emotionlessness constitutes being spoiled or entitled?


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05 May 2018, 2:06 pm

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Skilpadde wrote:
Anyone who gets "very upset" when someone rejects them needs to grow up. Seriously. There is no excuse for acting like a spoiled brat brat just because someone rejects you. That's life. Get over it, or don't play the game.

Oh, and the game board is not the entire world either. In most places people just wanna get from A to B to get stuff done. They don't wanna be harassed by some douche who thinks the women he comes across are just dying to get with a "stud" like him. :roll:

Everyone has the right to reject whoever they choose. No one is owed a shot.


So anything other than total emotionlessness constitutes being spoiled or entitled?


I would say "emotionless" is one end of the spectrum and "very upset" is at the other end , there is middle ground , how about "miffed"

I would put myself at the emotionless end of the scale , when ever I got knocked back it was the others persons loss not mine :lol:


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05 May 2018, 5:59 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Skilpadde wrote:
Anyone who gets "very upset" when someone rejects them needs to grow up. Seriously. There is no excuse for acting like a spoiled brat brat just because someone rejects you. That's life. Get over it, or don't play the game.

Oh, and the game board is not the entire world either. In most places people just wanna get from A to B to get stuff done. They don't wanna be harassed by some douche who thinks the women he comes across are just dying to get with a "stud" like him. :roll:

Everyone has the right to reject whoever they choose. No one is owed a shot.


So anything other than total emotionlessness constitutes being spoiled or entitled?


Men being rejected and feeling bad about it is fine.

I don't get the anger.

Anger suggests entitlement.


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05 May 2018, 6:31 pm

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Tim_Tex wrote:
Skilpadde wrote:
Anyone who gets "very upset" when someone rejects them needs to grow up. Seriously. There is no excuse for acting like a spoiled brat brat just because someone rejects you. That's life. Get over it, or don't play the game.

Oh, and the game board is not the entire world either. In most places people just wanna get from A to B to get stuff done. They don't wanna be harassed by some douche who thinks the women he comes across are just dying to get with a "stud" like him. :roll:

Everyone has the right to reject whoever they choose. No one is owed a shot.


So anything other than total emotionlessness constitutes being spoiled or entitled?


Men being rejected and feeling bad about it is fine.

I don't get the anger.

Anger suggests entitlement.


yep , for some it's probably entitlement but another answer could be that some men generally hide their real feelings so if rejection makes them feel bad it will be masked with anger :?:


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05 May 2018, 6:39 pm

But how much of this hate is coming from yourself? I mean like how many people have actually told you they hate you and think you are worthless because you're single. If you go out and about in public its not like people know your relationship status.


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05 May 2018, 10:02 pm

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Tim_Tex wrote:
Skilpadde wrote:
Anyone who gets "very upset" when someone rejects them needs to grow up. Seriously. There is no excuse for acting like a spoiled brat brat just because someone rejects you. That's life. Get over it, or don't play the game.

Oh, and the game board is not the entire world either. In most places people just wanna get from A to B to get stuff done. They don't wanna be harassed by some douche who thinks the women he comes across are just dying to get with a "stud" like him. :roll:

Everyone has the right to reject whoever they choose. No one is owed a shot.


So anything other than total emotionlessness constitutes being spoiled or entitled?


Men being rejected and feeling bad about it is fine.

I don't get the anger.

Anger suggests entitlement.

People get angry all the time over stuff they want and can’t have only when it’s about wanting to be loved is it suddenly an entitlement :roll:

If a lady gets angry she can own a horse does that mean she feels entitled to horse or that she’s just mad she can’t have one?

No ones entitled to anything not food or medical aid. Nothing. And apparently not being treated with human decency.
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sly279 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Skilpadde wrote:
Anyone who gets "very upset" when someone rejects them needs to grow up. Seriously. There is no excuse for acting like a spoiled brat brat just because someone rejects you. That's life. Get over it, or don't play the game.

Oh, and the game board is not the entire world either. In most places people just wanna get from A to B to get stuff done. They don't wanna be harassed by some douche who thinks the women he comes across are just dying to get with a "stud" like him. :roll:

Everyone has the right to reject whoever they choose. No one is owed a shot.


So anything other than total emotionlessness constitutes being spoiled or entitled?


Men being rejected and feeling bad about it is fine.

I don't get the anger.

Anger suggests entitlement.

People get angry all the time over stuff they want and can’t have only when it’s about wanting to be loved is it suddenly an entitlement :roll:

If a lady gets angry she can own a horse does that mean she feels entitled to horse or that she’s just mad she can’t have one?

No ones entitled to anything not food or medical aid. Nothing. And apparently not being treated with human decency.
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Being angry at another human being because they don't love you is pretty much entitlement in a nutshell.


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