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Their voice tones would sound harsh when they say those things.

You ever thought these people just want to be a**holes?

To whom are you referring?

No one 'wants' to be an 'a**hole'; but it would surely beat being an enabler.

I was referring to those people who tell Mark that he's not "marriage material" or whatever.

Especially if they really know the guy---especially if they only know him as some guy on the Internet.

I would bet that, in real life, Mark is actually a really competent guy.

It's almost like WP might be a sort of "release" for him.

I just don't know how to come to terms with turning 30 and still being single. I've actually had some people tell me I needed to wait until then and I wanted to prove them wrong but my efforts didn't get me anywhere.

You ignore anyone who gives you advice you need to hear but don't particularly like because it involves you taking personal responsibility for yourself and/or doing the hard work required to change and improve yourself in order to get what you want instead of just sympathy or someone telling you that you should magically be able to have what it is you want without having to earn it.

I don't really care if you ever consider me a friend or not, tbh. I don't surround myself with horribly negative people that lie about other people.

No one here has written the things to you that you keep saying they did. That's the problem and what we're calling you out for. You're lying when you say Fnord (or insert any forum members name) doesn't want you to have a girlfriend, and that is not okay. Why are you making these things up and posting them? Is it just to create hostility? Is it to reinforce your distorted views? Do you somehow actually believe that anyone here has ever said/written those things? Please, quote him or anyone as having ever said such a thing here if I'm incorrect - but I do not believe I am, and thus calling you out for lying about other members here is completely justified.

Then why don't you consider redirecting your efforts?

It's not for lack of effort that you've come up short on your goal.

It's for lack of effort in the right direction.

This is why many people here have told you to focus on improving yourself. Get your headspace clear & your body into good physical shape via diet & exercise and over time you'll become more attractive to others. Many here have done the very same thing and know it to be true. Hell, I'm not even trying to attract girls and they hit on me all the time. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that getting into good physical shape is about the most sure fire way to attract girls. I'm no Olympic athlete, but I'm in pretty good shape, and all sorts of girls I have no interest in being with hit on me at the beach all the time. They certainly didn't pay me this sort of attention when I was fat and out of shape. Change yourself, change others' reactions to you. It really is that simple. It requires time, effort, discipline, and hard work, but.. it pays off. Either you actually want a girlfriend and are willing to do the hard work it takes to make yourself attractive to them, or you don't and you just want to complain about it forever and ever because that's your jam. It's only you that can decide which you want - it's your life to live, Marknis.

Thank you, GF. Your insightful support really means a lot.

I doubt that we'll get any valid citations. We're more likely to see more of the same -- expressions of self-pity, false accusations, and general hostility toward anyone who offers practical advice. We've seen others display similar behavior before. Eric Berne wrote about it in "Games People Play". The game is called "Why Don’t You – Yes But"... This may be followed by the games of "Wooden Leg", "Kick Me", "Now I’ve Got You, You S.O.B.", or "See What You Made Me Do".

Care to take a guess as to which game gets played next?

Alrighty,

Thread has gone on long enough.