Younger cousin getting married

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22 Oct 2019, 6:22 am

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I honestly do have irritability issues regarding children, even with my own nieces and nephews but I sometimes like the idea of being a father.


It's possible to be fabulous irritable parent. :D I am also irritable around children. Even so, my kids say that overall I am a great parent. Before kids, when utterly depressed, I asked a support person, if I feel like THIS now ("stuck at crossroads") then how in the heck if am I going to Parent? And she said: you'll do what you have to do. She was right (and I've devoured parenting books and classes).

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Wishing you well for your journey.


I appreciate your well wishing. I just hate how my life doesn’t feel like a journey. I feel like I am at a crossroads but I keep going home instead of crossing.


BTDT. I actually hesitated in writing it b/c I know that feeling. Near the end of an especially grueling 8-year "journey" I was fairly hopeless but kept putting one foot in front of the other (the "Confidence Gap" calls that confidence -fear, commitment and act). Amazingly that journey did end (and well). And now I am on another journey --at another crossroads (this time for two years). I feel stuck also, but I have been moving forward, just not in a traditional way. I definitely have fear, now to make commitments that will move me in a particular direction and act on those. Results are not all in my control, but they are more so now than they were a decade ago.

I think the trick is to be patient (enough) and kind (enough) with the circumstances and ourselves, as we put one foot in front of the other - we'll get somewhere. The real outcome is Acceptance, and it comes it its own good time.



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22 Oct 2019, 9:35 am

Marknis wrote:
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My mother actually didn’t want my siblings and I to have children of our own. She even said she would get all three of us vasectomies but never got any appointments for us. Since my older brother has brought four children into the world, she’s reveled in being a matriarch.

I don’t know if I will ever have children. I am not getting any younger and most women in my age range already have a boyfriend or are married and have children.


Pretty sure that the law forbids that kind of stuff without the person's own agreement anyway.

Would you want any, though? If not then there's no use wondering about it. And if you do, well, you're what, 31? You still have time, in theory lots of it since you're a man, but if you want a partner your own age, you still have about ten years left. Or well, more than that, but the chances of a woman getting pregnant after 40 are really low and it becomes a lot more dangerous as well, so it's usually not recommended. A partner that's younger by a few years isn't unusual either, so that would give you extra time when it comes to children.


Despite how she loves her grandchildren, my mother has claimed she wishes she “held down” my older brother and performed the operation herself even though she has no training in that field. But yes, it’s against the law to do it without the person’s agreement.

Personally, I have mixed feelings about it. I honestly do have irritability issues regarding children, even with my own nieces and nephews but I sometimes like the idea of being a father. I would be able to be around my siblings without feeling like the odd man out.


Is it really so bad to be the odd one out? Go and find a positive way to be the oddball... instead of being the black sheep, become the purple sheep! :D

Or yellow. Or red. Or whichever color your prefer, though I personally wouldn't recommend orange.



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22 Oct 2019, 9:42 am

I'm a polka-dotted sheep :)



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22 Oct 2019, 9:46 am

Argh, I didn't remember that was an option, too!

:idea: Perhaps Markins is a sheep of red and blue puzzle pieces?



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22 Oct 2019, 11:11 am

Fireblossom wrote:
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My mother actually didn’t want my siblings and I to have children of our own. She even said she would get all three of us vasectomies but never got any appointments for us. Since my older brother has brought four children into the world, she’s reveled in being a matriarch.

I don’t know if I will ever have children. I am not getting any younger and most women in my age range already have a boyfriend or are married and have children.


Pretty sure that the law forbids that kind of stuff without the person's own agreement anyway.

Would you want any, though? If not then there's no use wondering about it. And if you do, well, you're what, 31? You still have time, in theory lots of it since you're a man, but if you want a partner your own age, you still have about ten years left. Or well, more than that, but the chances of a woman getting pregnant after 40 are really low and it becomes a lot more dangerous as well, so it's usually not recommended. A partner that's younger by a few years isn't unusual either, so that would give you extra time when it comes to children.


Despite how she loves her grandchildren, my mother has claimed she wishes she “held down” my older brother and performed the operation herself even though she has no training in that field. But yes, it’s against the law to do it without the person’s agreement.

Personally, I have mixed feelings about it. I honestly do have irritability issues regarding children, even with my own nieces and nephews but I sometimes like the idea of being a father. I would be able to be around my siblings without feeling like the odd man out.


Is it really so bad to be the odd one out? Go and find a positive way to be the oddball... instead of being the black sheep, become the purple sheep! :D

Or yellow. Or red. Or whichever color your prefer, though I personally wouldn't recommend orange.


I don’t mind being around my younger brother and his wife but when my older brother and his wife are around as well, it becomes distressing for me. It feels unfair how all of my siblings have romantic successes while I can’t even get my foot in the club so to say.



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22 Oct 2019, 11:27 am

Congratulations to your cousin.


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22 Oct 2019, 5:44 pm

Fireblossom wrote:
Argh, I didn't remember that was an option, too!

:idea: Perhaps Markins is a sheep of red and blue puzzle pieces?


Are you white and blue since you’re Finnish? :wink:

More like green and blue but I suppose I can try red.



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23 Oct 2019, 8:31 am

Marknis wrote:
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Argh, I didn't remember that was an option, too!

:idea: Perhaps Markins is a sheep of red and blue puzzle pieces?


Are you white and blue since you’re Finnish? :wink:

More like green and blue but I suppose I can try red.


I was thinking more of just blue since I mostly dress in blue, but I suppose white and blue works too since I'm so pale. :lol:



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23 Oct 2019, 8:48 am

White and blue----especially a lighter sort of blue----are very pleasant colors.



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23 Oct 2019, 9:53 am

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I disagree with the others. It's generally not a good idea to randomly approach people in a public place because you're attracted to them, unless you can read them and they seem like they'd be open to it, have open body language, etc, or maybe if you're somewhere where it's more socially acceptable to do something like that, like maybe a bar or a club. It's generally better if you have a group of friends with you too, for "social proofing". You also have to be prepared for the fact that you're more likely than not going to get rejected.

The problem with approaching people randomly like that is success is very much dependent on your physical appearance and social skills (since that's all the other person can gauge from you initially), so if you're lacking in one (or especially both) if those areas, it's not a good strategy.

In my late teens, I tried approaching probably about 10-20 women like this, and all I got from it was a knock to my self-esteem when it never worked out in my favour


I think a lot of people here (myself included) actually agree with this. If you don't have above-average social skills (good looks alone are not enough), you're not particularly adept at reading body language and can tell if a woman is (subtly) showing interest in you, you shouldn't try to approach them.

For those who don't have thick skin, one of the best ways of minimising rejection is to NOT approach complete strangers or people who show obvious signs of not being interested or wanting to be generally left alone.


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23 Oct 2019, 9:58 am

I haven't "randomly approached somebody in the street" in a long time.

I used to do it on the subway. Most women were bemused by my approaches. One day, I even wrote poems and gave them to women on the subway. Most reaction was, again, bemusement.

This was in 1986. They only had Walkmans then as something that one can use with earplugs.

It's much more difficult to do this nowadays-----because many women have earplugs and phones which they use----so that men don't approach them, as well as for their own entertainment.



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23 Oct 2019, 10:00 am

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... For those who don't have thick skin, one of the best ways of minimising rejection is to NOT approach complete strangers or people who show obvious signs of not being interested or wanting to be generally left alone.
^This.

People who are traumatized by rejection might be better off accepting their singlehood and getting on with their lives.


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23 Oct 2019, 10:11 am

^
That, or rethinking their POV and strategy. The Grand Inquisitor usually comes across as fairly lucid about his situation and willing to make changes.


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23 Oct 2019, 12:58 pm

Marknis wrote:
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... For those who don't have thick skin, one of the best ways of minimising rejection is to NOT approach complete strangers or people who show obvious signs of not being interested or wanting to be generally left alone.
^This.

People who are traumatized by rejection might be better off accepting their singlehood and getting on with their lives.


Translation: Mark should not have a girlfriend because he is a loser.

I don’t want to live past my 30’s if things don’t change for me.


Please don't drag me into this.


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23 Oct 2019, 1:00 pm

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^Please don't drag me into this.
No worries, mate.


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23 Oct 2019, 1:01 pm

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^Please don't drag me into this.
No worries, mate.

Sorry, we were posting at the same time - it was Marknis that quoted me, not you!

I edited for clarification.


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