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10 Dec 2021, 1:57 pm

I don't even drink coffee.....

And everybody knows I don't drink. I've known only one person who wonders why I don't drink. He's one of those who thinks that you're not "living" if you don't drink.

But drinking just to impress can be dangerous, I feel.



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10 Dec 2021, 3:12 pm

It's not a great idea to drink if you feel depressed anyway and especially if you're on medication for depression.


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10 Dec 2021, 3:15 pm

babybird wrote:
It's not a great idea to drink if you feel depressed anyway and especially if you're on medication for depression.


I know but around here drinking is the norm and is the only way to make friends, especially when you have things like autism, social anxiety or ADHD holding you back. In fact I think drinking even helps some NTs socialise too.

I just so badly want to fit in with neurotypicals. I'm fed up with being a social outcast just because I'm teetotal.


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10 Dec 2021, 3:19 pm

Hi Joe,

I hope you're doing OK.

Do you like the taste of any alcoholic drinks, or is your aversion about the fear of being sick?

Also, were you able to talk to your doctor this week like you'd hoped?


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10 Dec 2021, 3:20 pm

i started drinking to survive being lonely and homeless and all it did was turn me into a alcoholic slut that i will never go back to again

iv been teetotal for 16 years now

but i dont care for friends and socialising anyway


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10 Dec 2021, 3:24 pm

Joe90 wrote:
babybird wrote:
It's not a great idea to drink if you feel depressed anyway and especially if you're on medication for depression.


I know but around here drinking is the norm and is the only way to make friends, especially when you have things like autism, social anxiety or ADHD holding you back. In fact I think drinking even helps some NTs socialise too.

I just so badly want to fit in with neurotypicals. I'm fed up with being a social outcast just because I'm teetotal.


Well it's upto you if you want to drink alcohol. You are an adult and I'm pretty sure you're responsible enough to not let it get a grip of you (it got a grip of me).

I do get what you mean. I'm the same with adhd and social anxiety and alcohol has served as a social lubricant for me in the past.

If you are going to try just stay safe with people who you know. There's nothing wrong with a drink every now and then to be sociable.

All the best Joe


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10 Dec 2021, 3:39 pm

babybird wrote:
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babybird wrote:
It's not a great idea to drink if you feel depressed anyway and especially if you're on medication for depression.


I know but around here drinking is the norm and is the only way to make friends, especially when you have things like autism, social anxiety or ADHD holding you back. In fact I think drinking even helps some NTs socialise too.

I just so badly want to fit in with neurotypicals. I'm fed up with being a social outcast just because I'm teetotal.


Well it's upto you if you want to drink alcohol. You are an adult and I'm pretty sure you're responsible enough to not let it get a grip of you (it got a grip of me).

I do get what you mean. I'm the same with adhd and social anxiety and alcohol has served as a social lubricant for me in the past.

If you are going to try just stay safe with people who you know. There's nothing wrong with a drink every now and then to be sociable.

All the best Joe


Yes, that's exactly the plan. I don't mean getting really drunk to the point where I don't remember anything, because that's no good for anyone and I am a responsible person. But I just mean having enough drinks to make me come out of my shell and be louder, just like my socially awkward cousin. She's a quiet, shy person, but when she's had a few drinks she becomes loud. I don't know if she's on the spectrum or not, she's never been diagnosed but one time a teacher at school reckoned she had some autistic-like traits. But she seems NT to me, but that's probably because whenever I see her (which isn't much these days) she's normally had a few drinks and so is always chattering and becomes the center of attention. I think if she didn't ever drink she'd shy away from social gatherings.
Although I don't do too badly in social situations, I still think I would have a lot more fun if I drank. Not on a regular basis though, just when I'm socialising in a bar. It's what normal people do, and if I want to be normal then I'll have to do normal things. It's my only cure for my social isolation-related depression.


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10 Dec 2021, 3:54 pm

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I know it's a joke. :lol:

I'm OK, the funeral has been and gone now and it was an extremely emotional service but I cheered up at the wake where there were lots of people hugging me and complimenting.


Your mother will not experience any more of life's discomfort.

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I've figured Aspies that get drunk have better social lives and better chance of fitting in and being accepted than those that are teetotal like myself. I think being teetotal is mostly the reason I'm socially isolated. My socially awkward cousin drinks a lot and she becomes really chatty and loud and makes friends who still seem to remain friends even when she's not drunk. So I'm thinking of ways of getting drunk without the hangover, as I have a phobia of vomiting. It takes a lot of alcohol for me to get drunk enough to enhance my social skills, so I know I'll end up ill if I did get drunk. But it would be nice to become the life and soul of the party for once in my life. My socially awkward cousin is usually shy but when she's drinking she becomes extroverted. I'd love to get like that.


I'm not in favour of any form of drug dependency.
I hope you don't seriously look at drinking as a way of coping.



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10 Dec 2021, 3:55 pm

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I am happy you are alright.[/color]

:D


Why? :scratch: :mrgreen:



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10 Dec 2021, 3:56 pm

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Me too!

But please, do not seek to "get drunk without a hangover." Don't get yourself into the habit of drinking alcohol so you can be "make friends."

This is not a "morality" thing with me. It's more like I've seen too many people become alcoholics because they wanted to be accepted by people.


Agreed. 8)



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10 Dec 2021, 4:00 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
Me too!

But please, do not seek to "get drunk without a hangover." Don't get yourself into the habit of drinking alcohol so you can be "make friends."

This is not a "morality" thing with me. It's more like I've seen too many people become alcoholics because they wanted to be accepted by people.


I don't think I'll turn into an alcoholic, as most people I know who drink aren't alcoholics and I'm quite independent in my thinking so I don't really get addicted (I tried smoking before when I was 12 to impress my brother's friends but I never got hooked on it like they did). But I live in a society where drinking alcohol is valued by everybody (except religions that don't support drinking, and people who are ill or disabled or whatever), so it's not always the fact that alcohol enhances your social skills but the fact that people think there's something wrong with you if you don't drink. I've often had to explain myself or felt different or abnormal because of not drinking. It feels like I'm my own worst enemy because I'm teetotal - even though being teetotal is supposed to be a GOOD thing.


I an severely affected by caffeine.
It makes me creative, but silly.
Doers this have the same effect on you?

If so, perhaps a caffeine high is better than an alcohol whatever it is.
I have only been drunk once in my life, and that was simply to experience what being drunk was all about. :nerdy:



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10 Dec 2021, 4:04 pm

babybird wrote:
It's not a great idea to drink if you feel depressed anyway and especially if you're on medication for depression.


Oops.
I forgot to say (to Joe), if you are hyper-sensitive to caffeine, it will heighten the entire emotional spectrum, the main reason I avoid all forms of caffeine where I can.

For me, caffeine does make me very emotional and tends to make me dwell on the unfortunate side of life, hence me giving it the flick as much as possible.



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10 Dec 2021, 4:07 pm

Caz72 wrote:
i started drinking to survive being lonely and homeless and all it did was turn me into a alcoholic slut that i will never go back to again

iv been teetotal for 16 years now

but i dont care for friends and socialising anyway


Drinking is something to be wary about, yup.
I don't take any drugs because I prefer to be in rational control of myself. 8)



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10 Dec 2021, 4:09 pm

Ive found that I actually can get high and really sociable after drinking sweet hot tea with milk in it. I think it's the caffeine mixed with my adhd and my meds combination. It's fabulous sometimes and way better that alcohol.

Also if I have too much sugar I'm like a drunken monkey. I have been accused of being on drugs and alcohol when in fact all I've had is a bag of sweets and a cup of tea.


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10 Dec 2021, 4:10 pm

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Although I don't do too badly in social situations, I still think I would have a lot more fun if I drank. Not on a regular basis though, just when I'm socialising in a bar. It's what normal people do, and if I want to be normal then I'll have to do normal things. It's my only cure for my social isolation-related depression.


Who wants to be "normal"? :eew: :mrgreen:



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10 Dec 2021, 4:20 pm

babybird wrote:
Ive found that I actually can get high and really sociable after drinking sweet hot tea with milk in it. I think it's the caffeine mixed with my adhd and my meds combination. It's fabulous sometimes and way better that alcohol.

Also if I have too much sugar I'm like a drunken monkey. I have been accused of being on drugs and alcohol when in fact all I've had is a bag of sweets and a cup of tea.


Yup,
Sugar also can make people silly.
Look at kids when they get stuck into the confectionery. :mrgreen:

I have a major sweet-tooth, and have 3 heaped spoons in a mug of coffee.
Both caffeine and heaps of sugar is disastrous, for me. 8O

EzraS thought I had a snoot full of drugs when it was simply sensitivity to caffeine.
My being a "drunken monkey" is an understatement. :mrgreen: