I want my Androgynous Lifestyle

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17 Feb 2009, 11:37 pm

Like I've mentiond at my college, there's a lipstick-Butch Androgynous Tomboy that I like, her name is Niccol or Nicole. And she likes Karate and Drawing. I tried SO MANY times it start a conversation with her about drawing and her major "Graphic Design", she would reply to my questions but not ask me any questions in order to keep the conversation going. Before she left from class I smiled and said by to her, she said "bye-bye" to me very quickly.

Even though I can't read social cues, I think she's just trying to be nice and reply to my questions so she doesn't seem rude and hopeing that I would go away.

It's not like she HATES guys because she hangs out with both guys and girls, but maybe it's just because she's Lesbian and she kind of knows that I like her a little bit and she wants be to go away.

I'm not trying to flirt or anything, I'm just trying to just be friends because I know she already has a girlfriend.

I don't get it, she's friends with one of my college friends.

Oh well. It sucks because I can't be just friends. She doesn't want me as a friend. Even as an aquatence friend even though she's friends with about everyone in the freakin' college cafateria and she draws all the time in there LIKE ME!

I don't get it!



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18 Feb 2009, 4:48 am

ericc wrote:
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I love Masculine Women

I wish there were more with your preference.


Thanks *blush* LOL!

By the way, I took a look at one of your videos. Very interesting. ;)

Thanks :lol: 8)


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25 Feb 2009, 9:29 pm

I questioned this to the teacher, they say that car insurances judge my peoples gender and they use MAN and Women as examples. Those are biological sexes Not Genders. I explain to the teacher that this might be considered Sexist and Genderist. He said that it's scientificly proven than men drive more than women. So I just said okay so I don't start an arguement. I'm so angry with this Gender Binary world, some people are so disrespectful and unintellegant. I said, what if someone identified as Transgender or other and he said well first you pick man or women and if you want to take the time to explain that to someone, make sure you have something to back that up. IDIOT! That God this was my last Drivers Ed Class.



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26 Feb 2009, 9:17 am

Just don't worry about it. There's nothing wrong with being androgynous.

I guess your fear of the faults in society these days (which of course, there are many) can be a magnified reaction of your AS.
Something makes you feel threatened, then times that by 10, then there's your aspie reaction.

I'm rather strange in that kind of way, and I want to continue writing quirky songs, some androgynous.

Let the heavy rocks on your shoulders simply... roll off.


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26 Feb 2009, 11:13 am

Well it's not much of an Asperger's problem. Maybe the stress ties in with it, it's more in the matter of respect from the world. The Mainstream society and most of the people in it are Heteronormal. I don't tie in with that and I feel that I need to face the world every single day with an iron will making sure that I'm strong enough to make sure that I'm running my own life the way I want it too. Sure most heterosexual men are Masculine and love feminine women as their life partner. That's them, not me.



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26 Feb 2009, 8:04 pm

I feeling that my parents are starting to search around my room because they found an energy drink that I had, told me to throw it away and explained because I'm on medication........................................all that. But anyways, It's getting harder and harder to avoid them. I'm always giving dirty looks behind their backs because I feel that I'm starting to become Heterophobic. There's too much stress in my life, I had to put my show on hold because of all this. I feel that I need to come clean. It's not going to look pretty. I feel that I'm queer. I want to cross-dress as a feminine women in order to express my love for Masculine Butch Women or Non-op FTMs. I can't help it. I've been having these strange feelings all my life, but I never got to put it in words or make since of it until now.

My parents are always telling me to talk with them if there are any conserns. This is a consern. I don't mind being what I am but I'm afriad they do and I'll never find a life partner because of it.


Plus I'm tired and sick of dressing and acting masculine in front of them. It's like, I don't feel like I'm A MAN anymore.

I don't know, I'm planning on telling them tomarrow but I don't have the guts or proper words to tell them without worrying about them being homophobic and transphobic on me.

HELP!



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28 Feb 2009, 8:45 am

ericc wrote:
I want to cross-dress as a feminine women in order to express my love for Masculine Butch Women or Non-op FTMs.


I'll try to see if I understand what's going on here... Do you only want to be feminine because you assume that that would be the only way you'd be able to attract a masculine woman? If that's the case, are you like a bird who wants to change the color of its plumage so it can go after a mate that otherwise would not be available? Don't put too much pressure on yourself to be feminine if that's the only reason why. There are plenty of mannish women who like mannish men. There are gay FTMs who only date bears and straight-looking guys. There are straight masculine women who date fairly straight masculine guys.*

OR do you feel you are born with this feminine bent and are looking for your opposite/complement? Some people say that the real things we find attractive in a mate are those very things we lack. The fact that you feel a tug toward the masculine then would just be your heart's (soul? ego? instinct?) way of trying to find completeness.

Of course, you could be a little bit of both.

Tell me - what thoughts and feelings does this picture trigger:
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*Case study: My chemistry teacher in high school for one. She had the most precise flattop haircut I'd ever seen (I wish I had that haircut) and that John Wayne walk that dykes always seem to have. I thought she was gay for the longest time --- until I saw her and her husband together in matching flannel shirts and 501s. She once told me, "People were always insisting I was a fag, including my parents, and I just didn't feel that way. They shut up after I got married and had a kid."



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28 Feb 2009, 11:45 am

Llixgrjb wrote:
ericc wrote:
I want to cross-dress as a feminine women in order to express my love for Masculine Butch Women or Non-op FTMs.


I'll try to see if I understand what's going on here... Do you only want to be feminine because you assume that that would be the only way you'd be able to attract a masculine woman? If that's the case, are you like a bird who wants to change the color of its plumage so it can go after a mate that otherwise would not be available? Don't put too much pressure on yourself to be feminine if that's the only reason why. There are plenty of mannish women who like mannish men. There are gay FTMs who only date bears and straight-looking guys. There are straight masculine women who date fairly straight masculine guys.*

OR do you feel you are born with this feminine bent and are looking for your opposite/complement? Some people say that the real things we find attractive in a mate are those very things we lack. The fact that you feel a tug toward the masculine then would just be your heart's (soul? ego? instinct?) way of trying to find completeness.

Of course, you could be a little bit of both.

Tell me - what thoughts and feelings does this picture trigger:
Image

*Case study: My chemistry teacher in high school for one. She had the most precise flattop haircut I'd ever seen (I wish I had that haircut) and that John Wayne walk that dykes always seem to have. I thought she was gay for the longest time --- until I saw her and her husband together in matching flannel shirts and 501s. She once told me, "People were always insisting I was a fag, including my parents, and I just didn't feel that way. They shut up after I got married and had a kid."



Well first off, I don't feel Masculine or belong in the Masculine Gender. So I consider myself Androgyne. But when I'm attracted to Masculine Females, I start to become more feminine and wanting to cross-dress, so I also identify as Bigender.


And for the picture, funny coinsidence, that's the cover of the book that I own "Female Masculinity". Though personally It's not Masculine enough, she looks more Musculer than Masculine.


Here's some examples of what I like.

Image Though he's a complete FTM now a days, but that was when he was still biologicly female

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Image a bit too young for me, but it's the idea


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Bye the way, she wrote Female Masculinity. I think she looks cool. ;)


But anyways, yeah, that's the main idea.



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28 Feb 2009, 6:07 pm

I'm a masculine woman who likes feminine men. I'm also sick of the traditional gender roles and people expecting me to be a real woman. I'm as gender neutral as my avatar.


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28 Feb 2009, 6:42 pm

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I'm a masculine woman who likes feminine men. I'm also sick of the traditional gender roles and people expecting me to be a real woman. I'm as gender neutral as my avatar.


Cool. It seems like it's very rare to find Androgyne people like ourselves in the mainstream these days. Too Many so called "Normal People" is also called a "Boring Society".

By the way, do you have a Facebook or Myspace?



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01 Mar 2009, 5:32 pm

Word, guys :D

I am also androgynous. Though I am bisexual, I would always get angry when people assumed I was a lesbian because of the way I talked, behaved, or dressed. Very sickening.

I love feminine women and effeminate (not necessarily feminine) men.



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01 Mar 2009, 8:09 pm

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Word, guys :D

I am also androgynous. Though I am bisexual, I would always get angry when people assumed I was a lesbian because of the way I talked, behaved, or dressed. Very sickening.

I love feminine women and effeminate (not necessarily feminine) men.



Lots of people think that all Masculine females are Lesbian, it's not true. I know from my research. There are some who are FTM. And there are some who are Androgyne.


There's a Masculine Androgyne female at my college that I have a crush on. Not only does she have a boyfriend but she doesn't even want to have a conversation with me, not even as a friend. Plus her boyfriend is Masculine.

I was trying to think, does that make him the dominating partner? But then again, it's not really by business. But on the other hand, it's like part of my research.

Even though I'm biomale, I don't identify as Masculine. Plus I feel that if I was in a relationship, I don't want to be the dominating parter. It makes me feel bad. Plus I don't like to be the protector because I feel unsure of myself, I rather be the protected.



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01 Mar 2009, 9:21 pm

ericc wrote:
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Word, guys :D

I am also androgynous. Though I am bisexual, I would always get angry when people assumed I was a lesbian because of the way I talked, behaved, or dressed. Very sickening.

I love feminine women and effeminate (not necessarily feminine) men.



Lots of people think that all Masculine females are Lesbian, it's not true. I know from my research. There are some who are FTM. And there are some who are Androgyne.


There's a Masculine Androgyne female at my college that I have a crush on. Not only does she have a boyfriend but she doesn't even want to have a conversation with me, not even as a friend. Plus her boyfriend is Masculine.

I was trying to think, does that make him the dominating partner? But then again, it's not really by business. But on the other hand, it's like part of my research.

Even though I'm biomale, I don't identify as Masculine. Plus I feel that if I was in a relationship, I don't want to be the dominating parter. It makes me feel bad. Plus I don't like to be the protector because I feel unsure of myself, I rather be the protected.


I know what you mean. I'd be curious as to know if her boyfriend was dominant as well. My gut reaction would be that he is but, like you said, it's none of our business :P

Perhaps you'll find a relationship in which there will be no obvious dominant and submissive partner.



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01 Mar 2009, 10:34 pm

Bodhi wrote:
ericc wrote:
Bodhi wrote:
Word, guys :D

I am also androgynous. Though I am bisexual, I would always get angry when people assumed I was a lesbian because of the way I talked, behaved, or dressed. Very sickening.

I love feminine women and effeminate (not necessarily feminine) men.



Lots of people think that all Masculine females are Lesbian, it's not true. I know from my research. There are some who are FTM. And there are some who are Androgyne.


There's a Masculine Androgyne female at my college that I have a crush on. Not only does she have a boyfriend but she doesn't even want to have a conversation with me, not even as a friend. Plus her boyfriend is Masculine.

I was trying to think, does that make him the dominating partner? But then again, it's not really by business. But on the other hand, it's like part of my research.

Even though I'm biomale, I don't identify as Masculine. Plus I feel that if I was in a relationship, I don't want to be the dominating parter. It makes me feel bad. Plus I don't like to be the protector because I feel unsure of myself, I rather be the protected.


I know what you mean. I'd be curious as to know if her boyfriend was dominant as well. My gut reaction would be that he is but, like you said, it's none of our business :P

Perhaps you'll find a relationship in which there will be no obvious dominant and submissive partner.



Yeah.

From my research I've found what would be the perfect partner for be using Gender and Personality studies


Gender: Masculine
BioSex: Female
Personality Type: ENTP



Noticing my Profile picture, those are my favorite fictional crushes, Tank Girl and Harahara Haruko, Both of them fit the discription. LOL

But anyways, yeah, that's my type. ;)



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01 Mar 2009, 10:54 pm

Tank Girl is the sheeyiiit, and Haruko is one of my favorite anime characters of all time! Nice!



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02 Mar 2009, 1:17 am

Bodhi wrote:
Tank Girl is the sheeyiiit, and Haruko is one of my favorite anime characters of all time! Nice!


Cool. ;)

Bye the way, I'm just curious, do you have a YouTube, Facebook, MySpace?

I have all three, LOL, I'm under my name Eric Crooks.